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I see you've taken yourself to consuming Western propaganda---"how amazing Iran use to be before that darned revolution." What you're showing was the lives of only the top 1% of Iranians---most of the common people weren't so lucky as to live such luxurious lives under the tyrannical and oppressive Shah. Pre-1979 Iran looked much more like this:

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Nice try trying to pin this one on the boogeyman Arabs: this was a battle between the cruel secular government of Iran and the working-class Iranian people. The Arabs had absolutely no part in this and I think you're fully aware of that as well. Sending a "congratulatory message" is not the same as actively taking part in the Revolution.

Poverty and the freedom to choose what to wear are not correlated so the 1% stat is pointless to my point. Saudis and Arabs dislike each other strongly, why would they not influence the Iranians to take such a destructive path? The Saudis also promote an extreme version of their belief and have had a long-standing rivalry with the Iranis.
 
Yes it seems like Somalis have a thing for blaming everything on Arabs.

Only one that is true is blaming the Gulf Arabs for the spread of radical islam throughout the Muslim world.

Everything else is complete and utter


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isn't that spreading of radical Islam the root of the problem for a lot of things. That version has inspired a lot of groups like ISIS and Al-Shabab to commit horrible things. How is it wrong to say the Arabs (Saudis) had a bad influence on Iran?
 

Timo Jareer and proud

2nd Emir of the Akh Right Movement
Poverty and the freedom to choose what to wear are not correlated so the 1% stat is pointless to my point. Saudis and Arabs dislike each other strongly, why would they not influence the Iranians to take such a destructive path? The Saudis also promote an extreme version of their belief and have had a long-standing rivalry with the Iranis.
The Persians already highly disliked there western ass licker king at the time.

Arabs did not do anything to influence the revolution in Iran, the Persians had a SHIA revolution.

There was zero independent Shia Arab countries at the time other then North Yemen, (who could barely influence Southern Yemeni Shias let alone the Persian Empire.)
 
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Timo Jareer and proud

2nd Emir of the Akh Right Movement
isn't that spreading of radical Islam the root of the problem for a lot of things. That version has inspired a lot of groups like ISIS and Al-Shabab to commit horrible things. How is it wrong to say the Arabs (Saudis) had a bad influence on Iran?
Because they did not.
 

A_A

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Because they did not.
Your right. If Saudi Arabia some how influenced the Islamic Revolution that creates a question.
1. Why would a Sunni Muslim country help the rise of a Shi’a Muslim power in a neighboring country?
From what I know, the revolution is the fault of the Shah. If you surpress the religious rights of your people and force secularism your going to get backlash. That backlash was the Islamic Revolution.
 

Timo Jareer and proud

2nd Emir of the Akh Right Movement
Your right. If Saudi Arabia some how influenced the Islamic Revolution that creates a question.
1. Why would a Sunni Muslim country help the rise of a Shi’a Muslim power in a neighboring country?
From what I know, the revolution is the fault of the Shah. If you surpress the religious rights of your people and force secularism your going to get backlash. That backlash was the Islamic Revolution.
Yeah it makes zero sense.
 
Because they did not.

So, Iran going from a secular country to an extreme Muslim country had absolutely nothing to do with the that Saudi Arabia support?

It makes a lot of sense that they supported the Iran revolution from a political point.

Saudi Arabia at the time was trying to become the leading Muslim nation and be the superpower of the Middle East. By controlling Mecca and Medina they would have a dominant influence in the Muslim world. At the same time, you had Secular Iran being run by Shah who wanted to remove Islamic influence and put emphasis on Iran culture. The Saudis now had a big region in the middle east which they were losing influential control over. It is no secret the Saudis were promoting an extreme version of Islam and it would make sense why they would support an Islamic government in Iran.
 

Timo Jareer and proud

2nd Emir of the Akh Right Movement
So, Iran going from a secular country to an extreme Muslim country had absolutely nothing to do with the that Saudi Arabia support?

It makes a lot of sense that they supported the Iran revolution from a political point.

Saudi Arabia at the time was trying to become the leading Muslim nation and be the superpower of the Middle East. By controlling Mecca and Medina they would have a dominant influence in the Muslim world. At the same time, you had Secular Iran being run by Shah who wanted to remove Islamic influence and put emphasis on Iran culture. The Saudis now had a big region in the middle east who they were losing influential control over. It is no secret the Saudis were promoting an extreme version of Islam and it would make sense why they would support an Islamic government in Iran.
They never supported the Iranian government because they are SHIA.

And the revolution was going to happen eventually, the Persians where sick and tired of the leadership of the Shah.
 

Samaalic Era

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So, Iran going from a secular country to an extreme Muslim country had absolutely nothing to do with the that Saudi Arabia support?

It makes a lot of sense that they supported the Iran revolution from a political point.

Saudi Arabia at the time was trying to become the leading Muslim nation and be the superpower of the Middle East. By controlling Mecca and Medina they would have a dominant influence in the Muslim world. At the same time, you had Secular Iran being run by Shah who wanted to remove Islamic influence and put emphasis on Iran culture. The Saudis now had a big region in the middle east who they were losing influential control over. It is no secret the Saudis were promoting an extreme version of Islam and it would make sense why they would support an Islamic government in Iran.

It could have been a case of using the Shia resentment to topple the regime and then also then turn Iran into an Arab puppet of Iraq but that failed after Saddam lost the War
 
They never supported the Iranian government because they are SHIA.

And the revolution was going to happen eventually, the Persians where sick and tired of the leadership of the Shah.

So what they are Shias? I am saying the Saudi involvement was a political one not a religious.
 
Your right. If Saudi Arabia some how influenced the Islamic Revolution that creates a question.
1. Why would a Sunni Muslim country help the rise of a Shi’a Muslim power in a neighboring country?
From what I know, the revolution is the fault of the Shah. If you surpress the religious rights of your people and force secularism your going to get backlash. That backlash was the Islamic Revolution.

It would make sense if it was for political reasons. They would rather have an Islamic (Shia) Iran than a secular Iran. I mean, why would westerners fight against Secular Iran ( Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran) and Exile Shah just for Iran to turn to the extreme opposite. Iran right now is suppressing Irani womens right to choose to wear a head veil (Hijab). How is that different from shah's rhetoric?
 

Timo Jareer and proud

2nd Emir of the Akh Right Movement
So what they are Shias? I am saying the Saudi involvement was a political one not a religious.
The Saudis care only about Salafi Islam. They don't even see Shias as Muslim half the time. Let alone suppisu a Shia revelation. Even if they somehow did support Iran, it backfired big time.
 

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QurboExit
It would make sense if it was for political reasons. They would rather have an Islamic (Shia) Iran than a secular Iran. I mean, why would westerners fight against Secular Iran ( Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran) and Exile Shah just for Iran to turn to the extreme opposite. Iran right now is suppressing Irani womens right to choose to wear a head veil (Hijab). How is that different from shah's rhetoric?

He was trading with Nazi Germany while having the Soviet Union next door:dead1:
 
The Saudis care only about Salafi Islam. They don't even see Shias as Muslim half the time. Let alone suppisu a Shia revelation. Even if they somehow did support Iran, it backfired big time.

I don't believe the Saudis did it for religious reasons but for political ones and yes, Iran-Saudi relationship has gone sour.
 

A_A

Islamic Fanfiction Writer
So what they are Shias? I am saying the Saudi involvement was a political one not a religious.
It would make sense if it was for political reasons. They would rather have an Islamic (Shia) Iran than a secular Iran. I mean, why would westerners fight against Secular Iran ( Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran) and Exile Shah just for Iran to turn to the extreme opposite. Iran right now is suppressing Irani womens right to choose to wear a head veil (Hijab). How is that different from shah's rhetoric?
Silly! They invaded because Iran was warming up to Nazi Germany. So they invaded and replaced the Reza with his son. Basically got a puppet king. The new shah repressed religion. Banned the hijab and generally didn’t reflect the wishes of the people. He was a cocktail loving rich guy. If he was like Attaturk things would’ve been better. This guy was a dumbass and he surpressed religion. He caused his own fall.
 
Silly! They invaded because Iran was warming up to Nazi Germany. So they invaded and replaced the Reza with his son. Basically got a puppet king. The new shah repressed religion. Banned the hijab and generally didn’t reflect the wishes of the people. He was a cocktail loving rich guy. If he was like Attaturk things would’ve been better. This guy was a dumbass and he surpressed religion. He caused his own fall.

It doesn't matter that they were trading with Nazi Germany because they didn't agree with the Nazis and took in a bunch of jews into Iran.

The Iranian government did not support the antisemitism of Nazis.[2][4]Iranian embassies in European capitals occupied by the Germans, rescued over 1,500 Jews and secretly granted them Iranian citizenship, allowing them to move to Iran.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

And again, Iran then and Iran now are polar opposites. One banned hijab and one force it!
 

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It doesn't matter that they were trading with Nazi Germany because they didn't agree with the Nazis and took in a bunch of jews into Iran.

The Iranian government did not support the antisemitism of Nazis.[2][4]Iranian embassies in European capitals occupied by the Germans, rescued over 1,500 Jews and secretly granted them Iranian citizenship, allowing them to move to Iran.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

And again, Iran then and Iran now are polar opposites. One banned hijab and one force it!

Napoleon attacked Portugal, a neutral country, for trading with Britain. When you have a superpower next door, your asking to be attacked by trading with its enemies
 
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