Can someone provide some sources to read on this very interesting topic
Ajuran Empire: Hydraulic empire
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If you were expecting sources then there aren't any sources, as it's a myth. Are you from ajuran gareen clan by any chance?
You're in every thread talking about Somali history with you're hotep, if y dislike Somalis why are u in our forum go welcome to go to dalit forum hopp off, its well know ajuran for their well digging culture
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I'm in some threads correcting misinformation , show evidence that ajuran gareen were digging wells, since when was labour work like well digging done by them when they looked down on such labour work.
Garaad diinle
The reason why the ajuraan were called a hydraulic empire is there extensive use and engineering of water channels for the purpose of agriculture and digging of wells for both people and livestock. Lee cassanelli a historian who studied the history of southern somalia and collected a number of oral stories from various somali elders was told this about the ajuraans.
This tradition of utilizing the the water from the webi was also recorded by al-idrisi in the 12th century.
This tradition of utilizing the the water from the webi was also recorded by al-idrisi in the 12th century.
There are numerous historical fallacies and inaccuracies peddled about the Ajuran Sultanate that need to be intellectually dismantled. The Ajuran sultante never controlled the Banadir coast or engaged in any sort of military confrontation against the Portuguese. The Portuguese naval expedition to the Banadir coast is well documented in chronicles. The Portuguese never recorded any interaction with the Ajuran on the Banadir coast.
Ajuran wasn't even an empire. If it were an empire, could Somalis name the hereditary kings or ruling elite within the monarchy or throne that ruled the empire? Could they demonstrate any eyewitness accounts during the Ajuran period? What did travelers say about the Ajuran empire?
There are no ruins, ancient mosques, or gravesites visible with inscriptions pointing out the date and name to confirm the existence of the Ajuran empire or its control over the Banadir coast.
There are manuscripts, archeological evidence of gravesites, historical mosques, and a list of rulers with their names and clans well documented to attest to the Banadiri community controlling the Banadir coast. The same cannot be said about the Ajuran empire.
You made an absurd claim. You need to back it up with evidence. Which hereditary king or ruling elite within the monarchy or throne that ruled the Ajuran empire commissioned the building of hydraulic infrastructure throughout south-central Somalia? What is the name of the Ajuran leader who dug wells and built other hydraulic infrastructure in south-central Somalia?
Do you have any historical documents or inscriptions pointing out the dates and names of the Ajuran rulers who dug wells in Somalia? Somali nomads tend to look down on or avoid any labor-intensive work.
The origins of the Madanle people are unknown. Their ethnic identity is unspecified. The only thing we know is that they were allied with the Ajuran. You mentioned a source that says many traditions ascribe Madanle origins to Barawa. If that's the case, then they are closely related to the Arab inhabitants of Barawa, since they founded and built the city. You basically contradicted yourself. Most of the sources about Mandale are oral fairytales from the nomads.
The Ajuran ruled over a portion of southern Somalia, lmao
I don't like using wikipedia but this is such basic information
Ajuran Sultanate - Wikipedia
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Your racism against Somalis is so hilarious and sad at the same time. So because we were nomads we avoided any and all work? This is the exact kind of rhetoric that white nationalists use against blacks when they claim that Mali, Songhai, Great Zimbabwe were built by foreigners because blacks are lazy or stupid to work.
Besides, its obvious BS given what Somalis in the interior did.
dont bother sxb its a chicken cooing at a wolf hes a lone dalit seeking to rewrite a history that is known and is irreversible to change even despite his best efforts.
There are many non somalis here trying to discredit things and use the mask of "countering disinfomation". I would sugest you just ignore these clowns and just wait for the archeological surveys to disprove everything he says.
walee this xabash fella is determined proudly claims HG yet cant even name his own sub laf
you can find a few books on google books but most records are either turk or arab,
banadiri manuscripts come too late to the records and are full of dalit misinformation and claiming all things on the coast and refering to us as... lets just say not friendly words.
There are also somali books but they were written pretty late too in the 20th century. The only way we can know for certain is through archeological surveys combined with an accurate re-study of the history from multiple sources and points of view to form a basic view the same way the turks did for their history.
banadiri manuscripts come too late to the records and are full of dalit misinformation and claiming all things on the coast and refering to us as... lets just say not friendly words.
There are also somali books but they were written pretty late too in the 20th century. The only way we can know for certain is through archeological surveys combined with an accurate re-study of the history from multiple sources and points of view to form a basic view the same way the turks did for their history.
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