Ajnabi men are more loyal to their wives than Faraxs - true or false?

At this point in my life all men suck. They are selfish creatures i would be cautious to make men my while life. Theyre literally the most dialoyal unrelaible beings of Allah. There is a reason why Allah allowed 4 wives for them even within that they abuse it so if i was you i would not worry about men only focus on myself live your life.
 
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At this point in my life all men suck. They are self creatures i would be cautious to make men my while life. Theyre literally the most dialoyal unrelaible beings of Allah. There is a reason why Allah allowed 4 wives for them even within that they abuse it so if i was you i would not worry about men only focus on myself live your life.
Genuine question:

If disloyalty is unavoidable & the only option is polygamy, then what should those men do ,if their partner doesn't allow them to practice polygamy?
 
At this point in my life all men suck. They are self creatures i would be cautious to make men my while life. Theyre literally the most dialoyal unrelaible beings of Allah. There is a reason why Allah allowed 4 wives for them even within that they abuse it so if i was you i would not worry about men only focus on myself live your life.
Everyone on this forum is so extreme.Wallahi.

I feel like I’m getting second hand trauma just from reading these.
 
Genuine question:

If disloyalty is unavoidable & the only option is polygamy, then what should those men do ,if their partner doesn't allow them to practice polygamy?
Disloyalty is avoidable however majority of "men" are too selfish to see the damage it does to their wife and kids. The only loyal men i've seen so far in my life are the once that a lot to lose than the woman their married to.a man can literally drive a woman crazy if she's not careful because she will always have a lot more ti lose than him including the kids she will have with him.
 
Disloyalty is avoidable however majority of "men" are too selfish to see the damage it does to their wife and kids. The only loyal men i've seen so far in my life are the once that a lot to lose than the woman their married to.a man can literally drive a woman crazy if she's not careful because she will always have a lot more ti lose than him including the kids she will have with him.
I agree with that analogy.
 
Genuine question:

If disloyalty is unavoidable & the only option is polygamy, then what should those men do ,if their partner doesn't allow them to practice polygamy?
Two options. You either love her and value her enough to only stay with her as losing her is more painful or being with another is more important, so you divorce her.

Not very complicated tbh. Sad? Yes, but pretty straightforward.
 
At this point in my life all men suck. They are selfish creatures i would be cautious to make men my while life. Theyre literally the most dialoyal unrelaible beings of Allah. There is a reason why Allah allowed 4 wives for them even within that they abuse it so if i was you i would not worry about men only focus on myself live your life.
A good portion of men are like this I however will forever remain loyal to my wife once I get married
 
Two options. You either love her and value her enough to only stay with her as losing her is more painful or being with another is more important, so you divorce her.

Not very complicated tbh. Sad? Yes, but pretty straightforward.
What if she can't cover his sixual drive - does that justify giving him the opportunity to take an extra wife?
 
What if she can't cover his sixual drive - does that justify giving him the opportunity to take an extra wife?
Really up to you and what you value. No point complicating things. Same with a wife with an amazing marriage, but her husband isn't fulfilling her sexual needs. Does she leave? Or does she find other alternatives like viagra, research ect.

Polygamy is halal and men don't need a reason per say, as long as they can afford it, but if you know such a thing will emotionally damage your wife and in connection your kids and that would deeply bother you, you'll try to find alternatives, if your nut is more important you'll marry again. Each to their own.
 
Really up to you and what you value. No point complicating things. Same with a wife with an amazing marriage, but her husband isn't fulfilling her sexual needs. Does she leave?
Yes I think most often the women file for divorce if/when the husband can't sexually satisfy her.. And it's not even a haram reason to divorce.


Or does she find other alternatives like viagra, research ect.

Polygamy is halal and men don't need a reason per say, as long as they can afford it, but if you know such a thing will emotionally damage your wife and in connection your kids and that would deeply bother you, you'll try to find alternatives, if your nut is more important you'll marry again. Each to their own.
Even with a second wife one can still have a good relationship with their kids from the first wife, it all depends on the individual and how they manage their time betwen the two families.
 
Yes I think most often the women file for divorce if/when the husband can't sexually satisfy her.. And it's not even a haram reason to divorce.



Even with a second wife one can still have a good relationship with their kids from the first wife, it all depends on the individual and how they manage their time betwen the two families.
They actually don't. Many don't have that privilege especially if she has kids ect. Society isn't very forgiving to single mothers with kids with regards to finding another husband. Also, the orgasm gap between men and women is rather large. Less than 20% of women orgasm anyway as their perfectly functioning husband doesn't care to put effort in. I think you're in LaLa land, although society is now becoming more aware about female sexuality.
 
They actually don't. Many don't have that privilege especially if she has kids ect. Society isn't very forgiving to single mothers with kids with regards to finding another husband. Also, the orgasm gap between men and women is rather large. Less than 20% of women orgasm anyway as their perfectly functioning husband doesn't care to put effort in. I think you're in LaLa land, although society is now becoming more aware about female sexuality.
It seems like us men are not complicated as the women all we need is 5 minutes and we are happy for the rest of the day :icon lol:
 
They actually don't. Many don't have that privilege especially if she has kids ect. Society isn't very forgiving to single mothers with kids with regards to finding another husband. Also, the orgasm gap between men and women is rather large. Less than 20% of women orgasm anyway as their perfectly functioning husband doesn't care to put effort in. I think you're in LaLa land, although society is now becoming more aware about female sexuality.

Would you say that marriage for Somali ppl is unfair to women?
 

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:deadrose:This is some overly simplistic assertion.

Often times people with adverse experiences with a paternal figure be it emotional or physical absence tend to have a negative view of Somali men. These are often the ones who uplift nimaan ajnabi vs Somali. Notice how they accord nuance to foreigners whilst not paying the same level of consideration to men from their community. All Abdis are deemed a monolith and grouped while Ajnabis are different and a function of their upbringing, values and temperament. :lol: This is a sign they are most definitely jilted with an axe to grind.
 
:deadrose:This is some overly simplistic assertion.

Often times people with adverse experiences with a paternal figure be it emotional or physical absence tend to have a negative view of Somali men. These are often the ones who uplift nimaan ajnabi vs Somali. Notice how they accord nuance to foreigners whilst not paying the same level of consideration to men from their community. All Abdis are deemed a monolith and grouped while Ajnabis are different and a function of their upbringing, values and temperament. :lol: This is a sign they are most definitely jilted with an axe to grind.
True 💯
 
Two options. You either love her and value her enough to only stay with her as losing her is more painful or being with another is more important, so you divorce her.

Not very complicated tbh. Sad? Yes, but pretty straightforward.
I actually agree with that.

I only asked ,because I got the impression she was saying disloyalty is unavoidable.


I also believe polygamy shouldn't be practiced in the west when monogamy & basic marriage for muslims is a huge obstacle .
 
:deadrose:This is some overly simplistic assertion.

Often times people with adverse experiences with a paternal figure be it emotional or physical absence tend to have a negative view of Somali men. These are often the ones who uplift nimaan ajnabi vs Somali. Notice how they accord nuance to foreigners whilst not paying the same level of consideration to men from their community. All Abdis are deemed a monolith and grouped while Ajnabis are different and a function of their upbringing, values and temperament. :lol: This is a sign they are most definitely jilted with an axe to grind.
Am GUILTY! Looool that’s one step of healing right? InshAllah khair but I can’t help but see dysfunction when I see a Somali men.

It’s officially I will no longer add fuel to the gender feuds because am jaded( even though it’s sooo tempting 😫).
 
:deadrose:This is some overly simplistic assertion.

Often times people with adverse experiences with a paternal figure be it emotional or physical absence tend to have a negative view of Somali men. These are often the ones who uplift nimaan ajnabi vs Somali. Notice how they accord nuance to foreigners whilst not paying the same level of consideration to men from their community. All Abdis are deemed a monolith and grouped while Ajnabis are different and a function of their upbringing, values and temperament. :lol: This is a sign they are most definitely jilted with an axe to grind.
Come on, We can’t act like these guys don’t do the same towards Xalimos :fantasia2:

Constantly, i might add. I see so many threads generalising us in very nasty ways (eg.cheap and clean, loud, ugly, obese, etc.) but almost never the other way ‘round. If anyone has an axe to grind up in here, its most certainly the males
 

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