A quarter of the world’s population will be African by 2050

[Keo]

mostly bantu though. somalis will go extinct soon

Nah Kenya will be like 40 - 50% Somali by 2100

 

[El Nino]

just look at the population figures in niger it looks like the Sahel region is going through a population explosion I wonder if this will impact North Africa and nearby west African countries @Nilotic @El Nino

The Sahel is booming, we might see their population moving towards coastal west Africa and more deep inside Central Africa.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

. Some Kenyan analysts are predicting a Somali president within a generation
@doroafels

 

[Nilotic]

Much of what you wrote is emotional diarrhea and not factual.

All that you've written is fact free prostration

The west has allegedly been involved in assassinating many politicians outside Africa. The Africans are not unique in that regard.

"Allegedly"? Even the West admits involvement in these assassinations, but you want to entertain their innocence in opposition to all established fact and you accuse others of being emotional?

Leaders are mostly powerless in transforming their nations. It's the people who collectively do.

Leaders are certainly not "powerless" in transforming their Nations - especially at the incipient stage when most of the Nation is illiterate, unskilled and poor.

There's no evidence to suggest Lumumba would have not ended up being a dictator as do many African leaders after being "democratically" elected.

True, and I've already written extensively on the need for independent and robust institutions instead of messianic individuals; on the other hand, we did have an example of material gains with Thomas Sankara.

He died like 70 years ago or something. Stop using that as an excuse for the present situation. Stop mopping around and saying "what if?". Look ahead. Instead, say "what now?"

There's no moping involved in presenting facts that directly contradict your supine presentation of an entirely innocent West and an Africa that is a net recipient of aid. You can no longer speak of aid the way you've been doing up until this point.

The $200B is the price of doing business of a population that is not skilled enough to extract their own resources and build their industries. Nothing is free. Why dont you volunteer for your employer? What knowledge and skills have the local workers gained during this time from their foreign managers?

You haven't presented a single fact in the service of that "price of business" nonsense; Western multinationals are not building industries in the mostly extractive endeavours in Africa; they work in conjunction with militias that force children to mine metals like cobalt and coltan.

It takes only nuance to admit that Africa is being fleeced because of its incompetence, corruption, greed and ignorance instead of pretending that the West is actually sustaining the continent.

Around 99% of the fault is our own and I readily admit to that; but it's nonsense to suggest that the West is sustaining the continent.

Keep blaming whitey for the next 100 years and see where it takes you except only in negative thoughts. You talk about visionaries. You bring up 1 guy from colonial times. Where are these other visionaries in this country of 100 million or something?

It's not about blaming whitey; it's about taking stock of the many weaknesses the continent will have to plug in order to engage with the West and rest of the world in more favourable terms.

Put your head in the sand to historical incidents and you won't conceive of the necessary Institutions to prevent repeats of said incidents; 99% of our challenges are domestic.

I think I now know why you lampoon Somalis for valorizing Arabs and for constructing entirely fictional blood ties to them...

..It's not out of principle, is it? You've concluded that the Arabs are just not worthy of such slavish devotion; no, it's whites that should have been the recipient of all of that.

 

[Nilotic]

A collection of my posts from as far back as last year admitting that the fault is entirely our own:

We can't just blame the politicians; a people’s government is more often than not a reflection of their society.

A Nation's elite don’t just drop out of the sky or manifest themselves from another dimension — they are us… even if they are a little more corrupt or a little bit more murderous.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/nilotic-the-thread.118581/page-2#post-3022524

Africa is philosophically deficient and morally bankrupt; Nations need philosophical, moral and ideological underpinnings in order to function properly -- and we don't have any of that in Africa.

Western Nations draw upon Greco-Roman philosophers and the philosophies of the enlightenment; and Asian Nations draw upon Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism and Shintoism.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/why-is-corruption-so-normalized-across-africa.121119/#post-3070987

So is Africa the only continent the West has designs on? How is it that every other continent and region of the world has Countries that have found ways to protect their Sovereignty and National interests from the West?

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/do-african-leaders-actually-want-africa-to-grow.122676/page-4#post-3100285

South America is still far better than Africa.

Look at what happened in Bolivia; their former leader (Evo Morales) was removed through a Western supported military coup and his party came back stronger than ever.

The difference between them and us is simple... they're not raging egotists; they usually have a number of people that believe in the same philosophies, principles, ideologies and plans, so the removal of one man doesn't upend everything.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/do-african-leaders-actually-want-africa-to-grow.122676/page-4#post-3100285

Asia was colonised as well and they seem to have produced a handful of incredibly wealthy, industrialised and technologically advanced Nations.

I will concede that Asia actually has real Nations whereas African 'Nation-States' are entirely artificial creations of Western powers and their self-serving tinkering.

African Nations have self-agency and they could decide to advance the interests of their people if they so desired; the consequences of standing up to imperial démodé are well documented, but African Nations are too cowardly to stand up for themselves.

No one can ride you (like a 'dameer') unless your back is bent; my own Nation is entirely responsible for the pathetic state it has found itself in since 2011.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/why-is-corruption-so-normalized-across-africa.121119/#post-3071000

All of that is true, but the difference between you and I is that I don't uncritically absorb factually incorrect propaganda about the West sustaining Africa. This is really the only point of contention.

 

[NordicSomali]

Nope, climate change will cause serious droughts and famine.

 

[El Nino]

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[abyssinia]

Ethiopia

 

[lilmoon]

Your right infra African migration is on the rise however Europe and North America need new tax payers to replace the aging workers they have now so they might want an increase of skilled workers coming from Africa and Asia and Africa is the only place where the world’s population growth is gonna come from

But Insha'Allah, they will be in need of us for other reasons, like for trade. If anything Asia and Africa have the chance to become superpowers, but in Asia the Far East Asians and the Indians are taking these opportunities and in Africa no one is putting in the work.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

But Insha'Allah, they will be in need of us for other reasons, like for trade. If anything Asia and Africa have the chance to become superpowers, but in Asia the Far East Asians and the Indians are taking these opportunities and in Africa no one is putting in the work.

It’s possible that Africa can become the new world manufacturing centre just like china is now however what’s more likely to happen is a brain drain of qualified professionals just like what’s happening with India and the Philippines

 

[Rivaldo]

What a nightmare

 

[Juliet]

Nah Kenya will be like 40 - 50% Somali by 2100

 

[Gojo Satoru]

I don't think these studies account for high mortality rates in Africa. In Somalia especially the child mortality rate has increased since the war

 

[Abdi sensei]

Africans better wake tf up asap, otherwise will be used as Slaves again

We were never slaves

 

[lilmoon]

It’s possible that Africa can become the new world manufacturing centre just like china is now however what’s more likely to happen is a brain drain of qualified professionals just like what’s happening with India and the Philippines

Yeah especially in West Africa where they are seeing so many educated people leave the country for "better opportunities abroad" when they just want to live the high life without benefiting their fellow countrymen and women.

 

[SanaLaporte]

Africans better wake tf up asap, otherwise will be used as Slaves again

I'm bringing back an old thread, but don't you dare refer to them as WE, our ancestors were never slaves stop putting that embarrassing history onto us, we had the slaves not the other way round

 

[Mount23]

I'm bringing back an old thread, but don't you dare refer to them as WE, our ancestors were never slaves stop putting that embarrassing history onto us, we had the slaves not the other way round

Stupid, I never said we were slaves, I said all Africans all who have been colonized and controlled by foreign powers including us, better wake up so we dont become even weaker/victimized than we are today

Stop the false arrogance

 

[SanaLaporte]

Stupid, I never said we were slaves, I said all Africans all who have been colonized and controlled by foreign powers including us, better wake up so we dont become even weaker/victimized than we are today

Stop the false arrogance

Stop grouping their L with us, we weren't controlled