I should’ve wrote Proto Mesopotamians from eastern Anatolia.
T-M70 was most likely an important lineage in Akkadians and Sumerians. Their descendants today like the Assyrians have high frequencies of T-M70.
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I should’ve wrote Proto Mesopotamians from eastern Anatolia.
T-M70 was most likely an important lineage in Akkadians and Sumerians. Their descendants today like the Assyrians have high frequencies of T-M70.
What is your vie on this hypothesis? Without physical and anthropological evidence, surely it's completely speculative?
Lol, it would be pretty cool to be descendanto 'Ad and Thamud, though.
Any proof that Somalis took more Afar wives rather than vice versa?
I think you're heavily downplaying Qafari social standing just because they're a relatively new tribe and not much is known about them, and u seem to throw a lot of "if" and "maybe" aroubd when talking about them. Seems biased.
There's never been any type of dominance or superiority towards the Afars either. Them being a different tribe and being in smaller numbers might make Somalis see them as lesser but history tells us different, they've never been looked down on or abused by Somalis. If anything, the Afar conflict in Djiobuti showed that Afars have no problem stepping on Somalis, they're agressive.
"The dynamic on the Somali-Afar border is also not favorable to Afar men taking Somali wives. Historically, it was Somali men taking Afar wives, and rarely the other way around. You will never see Somalis claim Afar male ancestors"
There's no proof to what you said there....they're just pure assumptions
The only Oromos that were seen as inferior were the galla pagans and even those were seen as racially equivalent to the Somalis, even more beautiful at times. Soma gallas even enslaved and captured Somalis but not as much as Somalis did to them.
It's even documented that Somalis in the Ogaden gave their daughters to Oromo men for permission to use and work on the vast Oromo lands. Some Somali clans have been entirely absorbed by Oromos in the past, this is well known, and they're doing it till this day.
Proof?
It sounds plausible since the Aegean Sea is the focal point for Y16897 and migration from that area would explain its presence in the northern parts of the Somali Peninsula.
The latter part with Ad and Thamud is just a theory he connected to the unexplained dispersal of the subclade and the unexplained tribal alliance with carriers of R1 in southern Europe and Middle East. I think he meant that Y16897 regrouped after their initial dispersal and allied themselves with or joined people they already had contact with during this alleged civilization.
what do you mean slave soldiers? Habesha? The Axumites sent their own Tigrayana, Beja, etc. There were also some Nilotes from the Axumite conquest of Kush. Yemeni oral tradition sates that the Akhdam were the offsprings of these Nilotes who stayed in Yemen, but this was rebuked by a scholar in San'aa, Yemen, make it what you will of it. Also, Axum defeated the Persians several times but later aided them in the future, Axumite archers have been recorded in Persian armies.
I'm assuming you're talking about gallas/Oromo pagans, Nilotes, Bantus, and captured Muslims from the lowlands cus Habeshas were rarely sold to Arabs, the highlands even prohibited the enslaving of Christians even though it occurred a few times.
Again, insignificant amount of habesha soldiers. The Najahid dynasty was most definitely not a dynasty from the Ethiopian highlands but from lowlanders of Ethiopia, pagan or Muslim. There are no sources saying that the Najahid dynasty is Amahara/Tigray or something like that. Also, Arabs at the time used the term 'habesha' and 'Ethiopian' interchangeably and didn't differentiate between a Cushite or Nilote/Bantu a lot of the times. Somalis were also enslaved by Ethiopians from invasions and sold by the highlanders, albeit strong denial from a lot of Somalis the evidence is there.
Your little here you made is inferior than that of the Spaniard or other theories circulating around. As the evidence suggests, paternal Arab DNA is among Somalis, wether we like it or not.
No he hasn't
his is purely speculation, trying to go against genetic evidence of paternal Arab DNA in Somalis.No he hasn't
His speculation still makes more sense than the Arab-daddy crap. Full ethnic Somalis have zero genetic input from Arabs.
Is there anything definitive that can be said about this population? Did they have a language, culture, ethnicity?
How come there's no Anatolian HG ancestry in T-carrier Somalis then?
Why would someone ydna carrier have any detectable ancestry from a single ancestor that existed thousands of years ago to the exclusion of his own ethnic group who do not carry that ydna?
If it had an autosomal signature - it is with all Somalis. Otherwise you would expect E-V13 Greeks to show Somali-like ancestry that their R-M417 Greek cousins don’t have - which is ridiculous.
No one knows much about our west Eurasian ancestry expect that a lot of it is pre-Neolithic. Maybe all of it is. No one knows whether we have any Natufian, PPN, or Anatolian HG ancestry. But since we lack Natufian ydna (E-Z830*), and I don’t expect we have any significant ancestry from Natufians.
R1b-V88 and T-L208 will probably have the same story in Africa - a small group of west Eurasian HGs shift to cattle herding and migrate into Africa somewhere before 4,000 years and after 7,000 years. Their autosomal impact is unknown, and we probably only inherited their ydna due to a huge sex bias and founder effect these groups has due to their Neolithic pastoral lifestyle.
So R-V88 and T-L208 entered Africa from Anatolia/Levant between 7000-4000 ybp? That's a huge gap in time. Literally, the difference between hunter-gatherers and early agricultural civilization.
Btw, are you a T-Y44591 carrier as well?
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No - my uncles are through.
Those are very liberal estimates. I don’t think it arrived that late - it’s because of the young mrca of Chadic R1b-V88 men.
I think Y44491 arrived before the evacuation of the Sahara but after the Neolithization of NE Africa.
