5pillars criticise muslim women for watching barbie

[Angelina]

1. I'd like to think so, to an extent

2. Obviously Somali scholars. The amount of Islamic resources available in Af Somali is unparalleled by any other Ajami language

3. I'm not Talibul Ilm at the moment but yes I've studied under scholars since I was 9

1. Where did you learn Arabic and do you speak Fushaa.

2. What Somali scholars do you take from? I’m asking because i don’t ever listen to them but may start. But I’m not Shafi.

3. In what country did you study under scholars and what did you study under them?

 

[Hamzza]

@Hamzza

There seems to be a bit of hypocrisy. Why are Al Yaqeen or whatever they’re called being called out for posting women, when 5 pillars have literally recorded Muslim women at the cinema without their consent and it’s been posted on this very forum and on twitter no one has an issue with it. I don’t see anyone calling out 5 pillars for that. There seems to be a lot of contradictions tbh. It’s confusing for us laymen. As for the association with alphabet deviants then that is wrong.

You're right walaal. I was wrong to give judgment about Yaqeen when I only know of them from the posts of Amusee and Omar and have no idea about the actual content they create. But my message of being skeptic of them still stands. I firmly believe some of these organizations are funded by the West to water down our relegion.

I'm sure 5pillars has its own critics, but you don't see them that often compared to Omar Suleiman and his institute.

 

[Angelina]

You're right walaal. I was wrong to give judgment about Yaqeen when I only know of them from the posts of Amusee and Omar and have no idea about the actual content they create. But my message of being skeptic of them still stands. I firmly believe some of these organizations are funded by the West to water down our relegion.

I'm sure 5pillars has its own critics, but you don't see them that often compared to Omar Suleiman and his institute.

You’re better off just taking from well respected major Ulama than any of them. Avoid all of them!

I don’t involve myself with any of the disputes amongst Islamic speakers. They’re always fighting, slandering and knit picking each other and it’s confusing following up on their disputes. At times, they go out of their way to twist each other’s arguments. Every single day you have two Muslim men pointing the finger at each other calling each other deviants. Even amongst Salafis they’re fighting. Abu Khadeejah against so and so and so and so against whoever. Isn’t it tiring? Authobillah.

 

[AMusee]

@Hamzza

There seems to be a bit of hypocrisy. Why are Al Yaqeen or whatever they’re called being called out for posting women, when 5 pillars have literally recorded Muslim women at the cinema without their consent and it’s been posted on this very forum and on twitter no one has an issue with it. I don’t see anyone calling out 5 pillars for that. There seems to be a lot of contradictions tbh. It’s confusing for us laymen. As for the association with alphabet deviants then that is wrong.

It is not hypocrisy because Yaqeen is said to be run by "scholars" and they give religious rulings and sit on Fatwa councils in North America. It is obviously government backed. Any Muslim with common sense would know just based off the history of Islam/Muslims in North America and the scrutiny they have faced.

It is common sense that the "scholars" who rose to prominence in that time and are promoted and funded would have ties to the government one way or another. The US government made it clear they needed to fund scholars and platform them to control Islam and Muslims.

This is before considering the kind of things Yaqeen has promoted over the years such as telling Muslims to support the right to gay marriage and the right to insult the Prophet sws. It is obvious why they promote these things. They even have US military personel who worked on "counter-terrorism" in the middle east on their boards.

Your comparing so called "scholars" to a Muslim run news website. They do not claim to be scholars but are regular Muslims and even they have a cleaner track record then Yaqeen.

It is sensible for Muslims to question anything out of Yaqeen.

 

[AMusee]

Contents​

0. Disclaimers

1. Yaqeen’s Methodology

1.1 Outright Denial
1.2 Muddying the Waters
1.3 Fake Neutrality
1.4 Modernist Revisionism By Another Name
1.5 Yaqeen Undermines Scholars and Imams
1.6 “Religious Muslims” Are the Real Problem
2. Ties to CVE and Counter Extremism

2.1 Yaqeen’s Alignment with Counter Radicalization/Extremism
2.2 Dalia Mogahed
2.3 Yaqeen Collaborates with CPOST?
2.4 WISE
2.5 Yaqeen’s Director of Research Operations: Literally a Counterterrorism Specialist
2.6 Yaqeen and Google: Manipulating Search Results to Promote Liberal Islam
3. Omar Suleiman and the Politics of Doubt

3.1 Interfaith Love
3.2 Muslims Should Ally with Pro-LGBT Groups on Shared Goals
4. Gender

4.1 Muslim Women Turn to Feminism Because of Bad Treatment
4.2 Is Islam Pro-Choice on Abortion?
4.3 Mother of the Believers, Aisha, Married When 18 Years Old
4.4 There Is No Such Thing as Femininity in Islam
4.5 Muslims Suffer from Toxic Masculinity
4.6 Humans Have God-Like Powers
4.7 Should Women Obey Their Husbands?
4.8 Striking (Darb) the Wife Is Prohibited in Islam
4.9 Islam Grants Women the Right to Annul Their Marriages
5. Interfaith and Pluralism

5.1 Valuing Muslim Civilization on the Basis of Its Tolerance
5.2 There Is No Hadd for Leaving Islam
5.3 Confusing al-Wala wal-Bara
5.4 Allah May Forgive Dead Mushrikin Without Their Tawba
5.5 Most Jews and Christians Will Fight Against the Dajjal
6. Evolution

6.1 Evolution Is True and Adam and Hawwa Are Mythical Beings
7. LGBT

7.1 Muslims Should Affirm and Advocate Many LGBT Rights
8. Sharia

8.1 Takfir is Contrary to Islam
8.2 Mixing Liberalism with Aqida
8.3 Fiqh Is Human Interpretation that Constantly Evolves
8.4 Hudud Are “Symbolic” and Have No Place in the Modern World
8.5 Jihad in Islam Is Only Defensive
8.6 Islam Supports “Human Rights” in All Nations
8.7 There Is No Slavery in Islam
9. Who and What Yaqeen Promotes

9.1 Yaqeen Articles Written by a Queer Feminist Instagram Model
9.2 Leaders in the Reformist Movement Writing for Yaqeen?
9.3 Jazz Musicians, Female Rap Artists, and Ilhan Omar Are Muslim Role Models
9.4 Glamour Hijabi Models Everywhere
9.5 Mixing
9.6 Desi and Arab Muslims Are Racists

Reviewing Yaqeen Institute: A Source of Certainty or Doubt? | The Muslim Skeptic

Note: UPDATED August 30, 2021. This is a living document that will in sha’ Allah be updated as Yaqeen continues to publish content for the Muslim community. If you would like to contribute a scholarly critique of a Yaqeen article to be published or cited by MuslimSkeptic.com, please email...

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For any interested the above article has documented a lot of the corruption promoted by Yaqeen over the years. You should be able to click on anything in the index to read more about it.

 

[Zo206]

Lol I thought you were joking when you were talking about a plastic toy being a ho

Dosent matter if shes plastic. The end of the day, Barbie is a hoe n a th0t bytch in erry way shape or form. End of Discussion

 

[TekNiKo]

Dajjal’s greatest weapon is feminism, destruction of the nuclear famly leads to the ummah’s destruction. Barbie is simply a tool.

 

[Unicorn]

Dajjal’s greatest weapon is feminism, destruction of the nuclear famly leads to the ummah’s destruction. Barbie is simply a tool.

Oh to be a man where all ur worried about is a damn doll and making up scenarios in the future that might not happen while thinking women's rights are devilish lmaoooo

 

[TekNiKo]

Oh to be a man where all ur worried about is a damn doll and making up scenarios in the future that might not happen while thinking women's rights are devilish lmaoooo

Continue to be in your pod, the matrix has you fooled.

 

[World]

Pro taliban 5pillars will constantly criticise women but won't hold men accountable for anything.

We live in the west, so trying to stop Muslims here from westernizing or assimilating is pointless. It’s not a question of if, but when.

In a few generations, the descendants of the current generation of Muslims will either be apostates or Muslims only in name.

Either make hijrah or accept reality. Islam is simply not compatible with western values or civilisation.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I can go into a lot more detail about Abu Elias/Justin Parrot. And DH is right about Yaqeen. Yaqeen is one of those "liberal Islam" Westernize Islam thinktanks.

I could go look up the deviant stuff pushed by Abu Elias but I don't think it's worth it. I have other things more useful to do.

the thing I want people to understand is... if you have some person who is closely associated with Yaqeen.... just assume. if someone hangs out with... whatever group it is.... Jews, vegans, drug users, comic book enthusiasts... whatever group- assume they're like they're the people they're around. I could go and show people the stuff I've seen from Abu Elias but just the fact that he's with Yaqeen should be enough. DH is wrong about various things but he's right about Yaqeen. And I could pull up some Abu Elias quotes but I just don't want to spend the time.

 

[Angelina]

I can go into a lot more detail about Abu Elias/Justin Parrot. And DH is right about Yaqeen. Yaqeen is one of those "liberal Islam" Westernize Islam thinktanks.

I could go look up the deviant stuff pushed by Abu Elias but I don't think it's worth it. I have other things more useful to do.

Look it up. You’ll be judged on the day of judgement for slandering someone. What has Elias done personally for you to say he’s pushed anything deviant? Don’t use Al Yaqeen. We’re talking about Elias and Elias only

the thing I want people to understand is... if you have some person who is closely associated with Yaqeen.... just assume. if someone hangs out with... whatever group it is.... Jews, vegans, drug users, comic book enthusiasts... whatever group- assume they're like they're the people they're around. I could go and show people the stuff I've seen from Abu Elias but just the fact that he's with Yaqeen should be enough.

Again, show me what Elias has written that is deviant.

DH is wrong about various things but he's right about Yaqeen. And I could pull up some Abu Elias quotes but I just don't want to spend the time.

Pull it up, show me quotes that specifically go against the deen. Slandering and lying about people is a sin and I hope whatever it is you have issues with him you can actually explain infront of Allah when the time comes.

 

[cooli3o]

In a few generations, the descendants of the current generation of Muslims will either be apostates or Muslims only in name.

they already are

 

[Omar del Sur]

Look it up. You’ll be judged on the day of judgement for slandering someone. What has Elias done personally for you to say he’s pushed anything deviant? Don’t use Al Yaqeen. We’re talking about Elias and Elias only

Again, show me what Elias has written that is deviant.

Pull it up, show me quotes that specifically go against the deen. Slandering and lying about people is a sin and I hope whatever it is you have issues with him you can actually explain infront of Allah when the time comes.

No. I have stuff to do. Allah is my Witness.

 

[World]

they already are

Nah not yet.

 

[Omar del Sur]

@Angelina I also want to mention... I object to you having attacked me for opposing liberalism. you were criticizing me for somewhere for that. A page or two back I something like that.

It shows your liberal/feminist agenda. You go and defend Yaqeen. You were defending Yasir Qadhi, I don't know if you still do.

So... having a problem with me opposing liberalism... defending Yaqeen and Yasir Qadhi.

It goes back to that same principle- birds of a feather. You defend them because you're of that same of feather.

People just need to be extremely wary of what any of these liberal types say. Even if they're quoting the Quran, even if they're quoting hadith, even if they're quoting classical- liberals are constantly twisting things to align with their predetermined agenda.

The right way is to take Quran and Sunnah as the starting point and then bring our thinking into conformity with them. What the liberals do, what the feminists do, what these types do and you can see it again and again with these types here- they have this predetermined agenda and then they try to bend Islam to fit with how they want Islam to be.

 

[Lebron James]

Reasons why im grateful for living in the west, got niggas (majority immigrants) complaining about a god damn movie. Imagine living in a nation with millions of people thinking like that.

 

[Omar del Sur]

oh and to add- liberalism literally is out to conquer the entire world and ideologically colonize every worldview that exists. they will not be satisfied until every country and every religion on earth is brought into absolute conformity with liberal ideology. anyone who tries to get you not to confront liberal ideology does it because they are themselves a liberal, openly or secretly.

liberalism isn't content to live and let live- liberalism is actively trying to impose itself on the entire world... they have George Soros, billions in Western money, vast numbers of online foot soliders like Angelina... enormous resources. this is an extremely aggressive and militant ideology. that is why they do things like push lgbt propaganda on Muslim kids. they don't care at all about the lines this violates, they are an aggressive expansionist ideology and so so it's pretty natural and sensible to oppose this aggressor ideology. and whoever defends it, if you're a Muslim then you're selling out your religion because liberalism pushes all sorts of stuff that is completely against Islam.

 

[Omar del Sur]

@AMusee btw the relation between myself and liberal elements shows that DH is lying about "Madkhalis".

truth is liberal types are extremely hostile to me. even if I try to be diplomatic towards them- and I often have tried to be... liberal types hate my guts. pretty much every liberal type on here despises me and sees me as one of the main villains... that's been a thing for years. anyone who is vaguely familiar with me understands that liberals hate my guts. and it isn't even that I go out of my way to antagonize them and then they hate me. even if I try to be nice to them, they are just inherently very hostile towards me. and that being so, I take a proactive stance and pre-emptively take a more hostile view of liberalism. if liberals were content to leave me alone, I'd be a lot more inclined to leave them alone. but they are very aggressive to me just because I don't think like them.

anyways, liberals and "Madkhalis" utterly despise each other. And Yasir Qadhi, the pope of the "Muslim liberal" people (or is that Shia Mehdi Hasan??) is an "anti-Madkhali" just like DH. being "anti-Madkhali" is the official papal edict of "Muslim liberalism" via "liberal Muslim" pope Yasir Qadhi, emir al-watered-downiyeen.

anyways, the hostile relationship between "Madkhalis" and liberals shows that DH is lying. the souls are like recruited soldiers. birds of a feather is one million percent real. if we were secretly in cahoots like how DH claims- we would naturally be drawn to each other. instead we're natural deeply-hostile opponents of each other. so DH is lying. DH and the DH supporters are the only people I know who even try to make such a claim. DH would have people think someone like me is pro-liberalism whereas liberals hate my guts because my views are a threat to their ideology.

 

[Omar del Sur]

@AMusee btw since you are a supporter of DH... how do you reconcile the view that "Madkhalis" are secretly on the same team with the hostile relationship between myself and liberals? are we faking it? am I secretly great friends with them behind closed doors? according to DH ideology, I am in favor of secular liberalism. so am I in favor of secular liberalism?

am I not one of the "Madkhalis" (Sheikh Rabee Al-Madkhali is a great scholar of our time btw, I love him for the sake of Allah and I condemn 5pillars for being ikhwani)? so unless I'm not a "Madkhali"... how exactly am I a proponent of secular liberalism? I would like an explanation of this.