$50 Million Turkish base in Mogadishu continuing with construction, will train 500 troops at a time

[Cadmus]

You could call me whatever you please but I'm adamant that you're spewing qabyalad driven propaganda.

That's because you have no rational explanation to counter what I said, because you know it's true. So you go the emotional route like a teenager.

You are free to think what you want, I laid my evidence bare for all to see.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I'm well aware of Somali's and their position in Kenya as I've already elaborated that sufficiently on this thread. Thank you.

Boogeyman?

Sure, Bantu's that rape our women are not Boogeymen, they are your friendly neighbourhood spidermen.

http://www.wardheernews.com/garissa-massacre-2015-vs-wagalla-massacre-wajir-1984/

33 years after the Garissa massacre & ongoing police brutality in NFD
http://harar24.com/?p=9847

"Kenya: Civil Servant Who Witnessed Garissa Massacre Speaks Out"
http://allafrica.com/stories/201103020517.html


Make sure to have apple pie ready for them.

Let's see, where shall I start, the same Kenya that offered Somalis a safe haven fleeing other Somalis who raped and pillaged, muredered them, the same Kenya that's in Somalia fighting al shabab who happen to be Somalis, I don't know about you but my number one enemy is al shabaab and their sympathisers like barre huurale, if I was to chose between barre and madoobe, I wouldn't hesitate in choosing the latter, what say you?

 

[Cadmus]

Let's see, where shall I start, the same Kenya that offered Somalis a safe haven fleeing other Somalis who raped and pillaged, muredered them, the same Kenya that's in Somalia fighting al shabab who happen to be Somalis, I don't know about you but my number one enemy is al shabaab and their sympathisers like barre huurale, if I was to chose between barre and madoobe, I wouldn't hesitate in choosing the latter, what say you?

Now we are getting somewhere, this is the level where, if we discuss things calmly and without emotion, we might actually find a middle point that we can agree on, or find a solution to an issue.

I understand where you're coming from with you points, but you must understand something.

1. The safe haven was not a safe haven, but a brain drain, that's why Somalis run shit in Kenya, those weren't just farmers, but our highest and most educated elite.

2. The land that they gave us a safe haven with, belongs to us, and belonged to us less 35 or so years before the civil war.
NFD was annexed at the same time as Socotra. Fully in 1967.

Than put us in concentration camps which also became rape camps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Eastern_Province_(Kenya)#Administration

Safehaven you say, I think not.

3. As for Al-Kebab, even the UNITED NATIONS will tell you that Kenya are their handlers

https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/somalia/articles/20060823.aspx
"August 22, 2006: The Islamic Courts banned most exports to the UAE (United Arab Emirates) and promised to reform the way the Somali economy is run. This could raise serious problems, as the taxation of exports is a major source of income for several warlords and tribes. It's uncertain if there will be a fight over this."

Madbobe comes in immediately after, than suddenly this

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Al-Sha...Kismayo/-/1056/2487978/-/103vdhk/-/index.html
"UN claims Al-Shabaab freely exports charcoal from KDF controlled Kismayu Port"
Which was proven by the way

http://magazine.africageographic.com/weekly/issue-1/how-charcoal-fuels-al-shabaabs-terror-campaign/
"How charcoal funds Al-Shabab's terror campaigns"

And for the finale

http://www.voanews.com/a/reu-un-say...d-llegal-somalia-charcoal-export/1701424.html
"UN: Kenyan Peacekeepers Aided Illegal Somalia Charcoal Export"


Don't fall for Hegalian diaclectic of being forced to choose between those two.

I don't care about either of them, I'll support whomever decreases the suffering of our people.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Now we are getting somewhere, this is the level where, if we discuss things calmly and without emotion, we might actually find a middle point that we can agree on, or find a solution to an issue.

I understand where you're coming from with you points, but you must understand something.

1. The safe haven was not a safe haven, but a brain drain, that's why Somalis run shit in Kenya, those weren't just farmers, but our highest and most educated elite.

2. The land that they gave us a safe haven with, belongs to us, and belonged to us less 35 or so years before the civil war.
NFD was annexed at the same time as Socotra. Fully in 1967.

Than put us in concentration camps which also became rape camps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Eastern_Province_(Kenya)#Administration

Safehaven you say, I think not.

3. As for Al-Kebab, even the UNITED NATIONS will tell you that Kenya are their handlers

https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/somalia/articles/20060823.aspx
"August 22, 2006: The Islamic Courts banned most exports to the UAE (United Arab Emirates) and promised to reform the way the Somali economy is run. This could raise serious problems, as the taxation of exports is a major source of income for several warlords and tribes. It's uncertain if there will be a fight over this."

Madbobe comes in immediately after, than suddenly this

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Al-Sha...Kismayo/-/1056/2487978/-/103vdhk/-/index.html
"UN claims Al-Shabaab freely exports charcoal from KDF controlled Kismayu Port"
Which was proven by the way

http://magazine.africageographic.com/weekly/issue-1/how-charcoal-fuels-al-shabaabs-terror-campaign/
"How charcoal funds Al-Shabab's terror campaigns"

And for the finale

http://www.voanews.com/a/reu-un-say...d-llegal-somalia-charcoal-export/1701424.html
"UN: Kenyan Peacekeepers Aided Illegal Somalia Charcoal Export"


Don't fall for Hegalian diaclectic of being forced to choose between those two.

I don't care about either of them, I'll support whomever decreases the suffering of our people.

Let's just agree to disagree.

 

[Dontcomefome]

I swear Somalis don't have any dignity Turkey like someone said watched Somali be destroyed for decades these people don't care about you remember they only want economic growth, and power but they allowed Turkey to build a palace I mean a "embassy" more grandiose than villa Somalia basically they can do whatever they want in Somalia as long as they throw around money why do I get the feeling this would never happen in Eritrea I remember watching this Doc on Eritrea, and they had a partnership with the Italians where the Italians built a factory but had to train local Italians, and once the factory was run by Eritreans the Italians had to leave.

 

[Canuck]

I swear Somalis don't have any dignity Turkey like someone said watched Somali be destroyed for decades these people don't care about you remember they only want economic growth, and power but they allowed Turkey to build a palace I mean a "embassy" more grandiose than villa Somalia basically they can do whatever they want in Somalia as long as they throw around money why do I get the feeling this would never happen in Eritrea I remember watching this Doc on Eritrea, and they had a partnership with the Italians where the Italians built a factory but had to train local Italians, and once the factory was run by Eritreans the Italians had to leave.

Somalis have dignity but our president gave away the best lands, locations to foreigners (turkey, Qatar, halane, ..,.)
The people of Mogadishu believe that Mogadishu is not capital of Somalia but hawiye land.
However the best thing is change of capital from Mogadishu to new city (belongs to all Somalis not one tribe)

 

[Cadmus]

Let's just agree to disagree.

All good. Agreed.

 

[Cadmus]

Somalis have dignity but our president gave away the best lands, locations to foreigners (turkey, Qatar, halane, ..,.)
The people of Mogadishu believe that Mogadishu is not capital of Somalia but hawiye land.
However the best thing is change of capital from Mogadishu to new city (belongs to all Somalis not one tribe)

A new capital would have to be built, if you were there during or just after the war, than you know that the idea of Mogadishu is tainted unfortunately, but it wouldn't be wise to do that now, maybe after 5 years of peace and complete disarmament of all civilians alike, other that might cause problems between clans.

Egypt is building a brand new capital. That's the way to go.

 

[Cadmus]

Speak of the devil, might we have an out and out conflict between habashi and Bantu?

https://www.africaintelligence.com/...iopian-incursion-angers-nairobi,108185830-ART

 

[Lord Flacko]

Somalis have dignity but our president gave away the best lands, locations to foreigners (turkey, Qatar, halane, ..,.)
The people of Mogadishu believe that Mogadishu is not capital of Somalia but hawiye land.
However the best thing is change of capital from Mogadishu to new city (belongs to all Somalis not one tribe)

A new capital would have to be built, if you were there during or just after the war, than you know that the idea of Mogadishu is tainted unfortunately, but it wouldn't be wise to do that now, maybe after 5 years of peace and complete disarmament of all civilians alike, other that might cause problems between clans.

Egypt is building a brand new capital. That's the way to go.

Mogadishu is and will always be a multi-ethnic city. Isaaq, Darood, Hawiye, Rahanweyn, Dir, -every other qabiil, Ashraaf, 4-5 Gen Yemenis/Arabs, Cadcad, Bravanese, Zanzibari Omanis etc etc




Mogadishu will stand as the capital.

 

[AceofSom]

Mogadishu is the spiritual, economical and cultural capital of Somalia, and it will never change. If you want the capital to change go find a new country.
Furthermore theirs nothing wrong with Turkey building a military base to train the Somali Army, we are at war with terrorists and orcs. Thus this is a welcome development.

 

[waraabe]

Mogadishu is the spiritual, economical and cultural capital of Somalia, and it will never change. If you want the capital to change go find a new country.
Furthermore theirs nothing wrong with Turkey building a military base to train the Somali Army, we are at war with terrorists and orcs. Thus this is a welcome development.

Orcs?

 

[Cadmus]

Mogadishu is and will always be a multi-ethnic city. Isaaq, Darood, Hawiye, Rahanweyn, Dir, -every other qabiil, Ashraaf, 4-5 Gen Yemenis/Arabs, Cadcad, Bravanese, Zanzibari Omanis etc etc




Mogadishu will stand as the capital.

Barawani are welcome?

Why not give all their properties back first than, yet HSM still authorises attacks on non-hawiye. That's not a capital, but a fiefdom.

 

[AceofSom]

Barawani are welcome?

Why not give all their properties back first than, yet HSM still authorises attacks on non-hawiye. That's not a capital, but a fiefdom.

If you don't like it go adopt another country.

 

[BebsiBolice]

 

[Shamis]

Mogadishu is the spiritual, economical and cultural capital of Somalia, and it will never change. If you want the capital to change go find a new country.
Furthermore theirs nothing wrong with Turkey building a military base to train the Somali Army, we are at war with terrorists and orcs. Thus this is a welcome development.

It's the capital but the current attitude countrywide of one clan owning and running a region and it's capital city forever ,jeopardizes the country's future and I wish Somalis back home knew that.

 

[calaf doon]

Turkish scums deserve the boot

 

[Cadmus]

If you don't like it go adopt another country.

Or I could choose to not take your advice, since you're nobody to me.

Telling me to find a new country, hey GUY, we already did, since you all invaded and stole everybody's property and raping left and right, not even allowing the parents to give the girls away when they asked, nope, just threw the young girls over the shoulders and left. That kind of savagery will never be forgotten.

 

[Cadmus]

No Deen and no mercy, does not a capital make.

 

[Shamis]

@Cadmus gave up on Somalinimo real fast