Visual representation of why Hargeisa, West Burco & Sanaag communiity are political failures

sincity said:

West Burco is a political victim of "Somaliland" or "Isaaq". The historical domination of those people have made them political outcasts in Hargeisa people do not want the return of the Garxajis power block. It's an active and intended policy towards them if we are frank, they were duped.

Who benefits from their demise? None other than Sacad Muuse, qabiil yar oo inkaaran. So it is natural he feels strongly about this. In the name of Somaliland lets all benefit the Berbera corridor and leave the rest for the wolves is no policy. You make it appear as they have a natural tribal bias when there is long lasting policies to keep them down.

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@sincity haday dawlad kale jiri lahayd I wud advice u to not join SL, lakin ma jiro dawlad kale in somalia, waa shirkad waa iib, dont join somalia niyahow or u get sold with them. We shud be happy where-ever there is some semblance of a government and improve it so we can become PL/SL oo dawlad rasmi ah and we use Somalia as 'shirkadeena' and we start treating it like 'business' and eventually the south will disappear who are the problem because haday dawlad haysan lahayeen oo dhab ah, dalkani ma noqdeen like a company. Do u want your ppl to join such thing? you have a better deal in SL, stay there and help it succeed

DR OSMAN said:

@sincity haday dawlad kale jiri lahayd I wud advice u to not join SL, lakin ma jiro dawlad kale in somalia, waa shirkad waa iib, dont join somalia niyahow or u get sold with them. We shud be happy where-ever there is some semblance of a government and improve it so we can become PL/SL oo dawlad rasmi ah and we use Somalia as 'shirkadeena' and we start treating it like 'business' and eventually the south will disappear who are the problem because haday dawlad haysan lahayeen oo dhab ah, dalkani ma noqdeen like a company. Do u want your ppl to join such thing? you have a better deal in SL, stay there and help it succeed

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That's fake news. Only 10% of development aid goes to the entire Sool and Sanaag provinces, there's no better deal to be had there. If a government can't provide basic necessities for its citizens it ceases to be a government. People have to bring their own doctors and nurses to hospital. After 30 years waxaas waa caqli xumo.

Samaalism said:

You’re an idiot Somaliland doesn’t get cash in hand it is white hayado that do mashruucs and if there is violence they won’t come simple as. Laas canood for full mashruucs this year while sanaag hasn’t due to violence. Somaliland gov puts most of its cash into maintaining law and order paying public servents and doing mashruucs in gobalada bariga. Hargeisa has only just had its water fixed. People think because it rains in galbeed and the grass is green we have some type of monopoly or that we are stealing other people’s funding. On top of that sool has a population of 300k it’s not going to get the same aid as regions with 6 or 7 times it’s population

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Don't entertain him his silly boy @sincity you dont get what u want every day. I have a job where I wish I got more money but it's better then no job ma garatay cause I can't find at this stage in the market place to improve from what I have. Somaliland is the same thing, it's not perfect at all, but improve it don't sit there so your region improves also, cause there is no other government to join in Somalia. So you sound like a loser when u criticize Somaliland it's like me criticising my employer that my job is bad place, he will say WHERE U GOING TO GO? I say the same thing to u, where u going to go sxb if Somaliland is gone? afkaga naga xiro your not stakeholder thats why, hadad wax haysan lahayd sidasi uma hadasheen

@sincity if u could find a better government I can understand sxb that u might not like somaliland, but when there is no other government for u and option, you shouldnt embarass yourself and criticize Somaliland, that makes u look so stupid in front of people. Thats probably why muse maba idin jawaabo, wax loo jawaabo maba tihid, that's so embarassing marku muse just ignores u.

@sincity it is up to your communities not the government to assist them and bring NGO, Locals, businessmen, and diaspora, it's up to you to help them because the taxes the government get isn't enough for development of all the region. Don't blame the govt for this niyahow. That is what the govt is sitting down for to increase it's potential tax pool so it can deliver more services, while u sit there arguing with them on qabiil, you are fuckin joke. Pay your taxes amniga adaa ku nool not sacad muse, you must pay your taxes or else there is no security, it's back to green lines and every clan in it's own area which is the objective of SSC/HY/HJ in my view, inay dawladnimadeena soo riddan oo loo noqdo sidi 91. Yaa ka 'faidayo' taasi? we all lose without a government and security as we can't begin to reform the society or gain access to our diaspora/business ppl/locals/foreigners.

U want us to return to Galmudug style model? in la kala faristo with our soldiers and there is no government? look at galmudug its finished

Qabiil qaran ma noqdo. So it is natural for isaaq to have inter-clan beef, illustrated in 1994. I just look at the news for entertainment. Somaliland waa riwaayad!

@Samaalism the data is out there.

According to the government data, regions are benefiting from the SDF as following: Hargeisa 46%, Gabiley 9% (one of the districts of Hargeisa), Saahil 14%, Togdheer 16%, Sanaag 5%, Sool 5%, Awdal 5%. Gabiley is part of Hargeisa region while Saahil was part of Hargeisa region at the time Somaliland declared its independence.

This allotment reinforces already expanding disparity. The resources are invested in very few regions. Now, SDF has taken the same route by giving almost all of its projects to only two regions. Hargeisa (including Gabiley district) and Saahil together enjoy 69 percent. Sanaag, Sool and Awdal collectively receive 15%.

Why? Are Hargeisa and Saahil having more population than Sanaag, Sool and Awdal? The answer is no. According to latest UNFPA population estimate, Hargeisa and Saahil have a population of 1, 242, 003. The population of Sool, Sanaag and Awdal are 1, 544, 814. Therefore, in population wise, the later regions have more population. Is it because of assessed need? The response is no. It is a matter of irrefutable fact that east regions have received the least support in last two decades. In territory wise, Sanaag alone is 38% of Somaliland’s territory. Let alone adding Awdal and Sool.

https://www.gobanimonews.com/unjust...fund-sdf-threatens-stability-and-coexistence/

Samaalism said:

The funniest thing is yaga is dili and sanaag mountains will become a al shabaab base. Habar awal waxba ma yeeliyaan infact we would get support for containing the terrorists

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The point is that area needs to be ordered or else we lose a-lot in terms of development as the world see's our region just as risky as the south, they won't empower u nor me if that issue is not resolved and our regions show maturity, it's simple as that which is the goal i think of the regions who feel disempowered to make us look not credible government.

Bohol vs Samaalism round 100

@Samaalism I want Puntland to warn it's diaspora they want to make our state 'holiday' place where the elites and diaspora invest and enjoy while the local survives of their 'pocket'. I want an investment model from our diaspora that focuses on generating wealth for our locals so they're living standard improves. However some argue at this stage, PL govt is focused on ensuring security is met and basic outcomes(water, schools, hospitals, electricity) which is fine, I want to make sure the locals have the basic first before discussing how to increase their 'wealth' so they have their own 'wallet' and not rely on diaspora/foreigner wallets because that is when you become a 'shirkad' you don't have a rich local to fund your govt and only 'a few people get rich' that is dangerous model and PL must becareful inaysan isku badelin sida hamar.

In a government u can't survive of just business ppl, they don't have enuff money to support a govt, u need millions of locals to have money they can support themselves then and have their basic services maintained like roads, hospitals, schools, electricity so they can continue working and producing more. In Bosaso alot of the investment is 'local' 'iyaga lacag haysta' halka 'garowe' it's mainly 'diaspora' which is worrying and disturbs me that it may become 'ghetto' with an 'diaspora' rich people. I want to stop that model, fa'ido kuma jiro puntland, waa systemki horey ee galbeedka oo loo soo wareejiyay africa who dont understand it because isku dhaqan manahin

Soomaaliweyn said:

Qabiil qaran ma noqdo. So it is natural for isaaq to have inter-clan beef, illustrated in 1994. I just look at the news for entertainment. Somaliland waa riwaayad!

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Somaliland waa riwaayad but still occupy your lands. Very funny stuff wallahi!

@sincity natty somaliland powerlifter. I really do live in your mind rent free

@Samaalism don't act like the regions who are disempowered because they want to bring u down to their level of no government. PL waa aqoonsan yahay jeclow ama ha jeclan, aduunka dhan fadhiyo, so they look at those clans as unrealistic when the world agrees PL is a good government(well not perfect) lakin it's heading towards that. If it wasn't a government, aduunka ma fadhisteen like SSC/BURCO/ERIGAVO see what I mean? they want u to be at their level, so don't entertain them and say if I am not government why is the world working with me as a government.

Do not 'discredit' Hamar as not a government waa siyasad xumo, I see that waraabe who does that showing u he isn't political, I don't see sacad muse leaders do that tho. U have to recognize waa 'dawlad' weeye lakin argue it's not a government of 'people' ama 'mid dadyowga ka yimi' waa dawlad 'shirkad' ah ama 'shareholder' and then present your evidence how every position is bought like it's shares, this makes you realistic to the world community that u recognize it's an official govt or else why is the world there but it's not OPERATING like a government but a Corporation. That is why Majerten are 'vicious' in politics and we play to win, we don't play to SCREAM or else they will realise your 'emotionally driven' and you expose yourself as 'agenda driven'. Keep HY/HJ out of siyasada their not prepared, waa 'reer badiye', they will ensure you loss to 'majerten and hawiye' even which is their goal to enpower your 'jahil' clans. They do it to Puntland they want dhulos to rule us so we make bad mistakes, they do it in hamar marehan ayay soo adeegsadan. We know them, they wont win, we play to win STRATEGICALLY so we dont expose ourselves to world as SPOILERS.

@Samaalism Remember aideed waa soo kaxaystay abdirahman tuur, they do the same to PL using ali khalif galayr to start wars, niinka idin ku liito ama beesha bay wax uu dhiban si dagaalka meeshasi laga qarxiyo. I urge u to kick out ali khalif galayr, hamar has after they used him like a condom and he didnt succeed in bringing down puntland. PL is not happy that u host him, anaga waa soo turaya habar yonis from bosaso dependences because he fears u will cut of berbera for him and get him in line

@Samaalism We need to work on deals and not fall for jambals anymore cause we got no result from that and our profile in our regions isn't increasing. I will cut 'khatumo' to you not 'makhir' waa dawlad weeye forget that. In return, I annex 'Somalia' my old kingdom, ana laha weligay meeshasi. We can work out a deal and we can work out how the large HY miyi is contained and has no lifeline and is 'stuck'. Dhulbahante will be easy. But not Makhir waa sultanates like Puntland, they will get their Makhir model. According to PL waxad shali ahayd baad HELAYSA

@Samaalism U never entertain state less people or else u make your own state look as if it's state less. U tell stateless regions you must go to Hargeisa and speak to me thru your government. We shouldn't entertain them or else what can happen is rule of law can break down. When someone in Australia wants to speak to someone, they don't speak to 'locals' who are not state actors, they speak to the government of those people. If those people are not a 'state' lakin then waxaa loola hadla 'treaty' sida GM/SOOL/SANAAG/BURCO/ERIGAVO. If u entertain them as equal, your state hood can be questioned.

I only talk to them as 'qabiil' and 'elders' because that's all they have ma haysto dawlad lala hadli karo, noone recognizes their region as a government, marka 'treaty' ahan ayaa 'deal' lala gala and it works and the proof is GM treaty in galkacyo, isagu dawlad la'antisa ayuu ku jiraya weligeed lakin marku kula hadlo 'treatykasi' ayaa ka wada hadlaysan. Australians do it to aboriginal settlements, americans do it also to native american reserves. Do not bring your status down waryaa cause majertenn can use that 'against u' if we play politics from the side of 'sacad muse is our enemy' if your a ally we can assist u its up to u which side u choose