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[Mujahid Nur Marehan]

@Sophisticate @anonimo @Libaax-Joore @Awbarre @Pioneer @Mujahid Nur Marehan

I now think that:

T-FGC92488 and E-Y163949 are the two biggest sub-1 thousand year old lineages in Somaliweyn, and funnily enough T-FGC92488 might be the #1.

There are alott of Marehan E-Y163949 in Hararge and Faafhan Ethiopia.

 

[Apollo]

@Apollo and there are alott of Marehan E-Y163949 in Hararge and Faafhan Ethiopia.

T-FGC92488 is probably bigger since it is Northwest Dirs + half of Isaaqs (maybe even more, uncertain).

 

[Libaax-Joore]

T-FGC92488 is probably bigger since it is Northwest Dirs + half of Isaaqs (maybe even more, uncertain).

What u think percentage of tl208 in somaliweyn haplogroup

 

[Apollo]

What u think percentage of tl208 in somaliweyn haplogroup

Yeah, but that is kind of cheating since Somali clans are supposed to about a thousand years old. That is more of a fairer standard to judge who are the most laandheer.

I think E-BY8081 is probably the biggest sub-500 year old lineage, but T-FGC92488 probably the biggest sub-1000 year old one.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Yeah, but that is kind of cheating since Somali clans are supposed to about a thousand years old. That is more of a fairer standard to judge who are the most laandheer.

I think E-BY8081 is probably the biggest sub-500 year old lineage, but T-FGC92488 probably the biggest sub-1000 year old one.

Who is more landhere in somalia ev32 or tl208

 

[Apollo]

Who is more landhere in somalia ev32 or tl208

C'mon you already know the answer if you ever have checked your 23andMe relative list.

However, E-V32 Somalis are usually not related for 3,000 years. Many different subclades outside of the historic period when clans formed.

If the Abgaal clan is real, then their lineage could also be a big one by number. We might find out soon.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

C'mon you already know the answer if you ever have checked your 23andMe relative list.

However, E-V32 Somalis are usually not related for 3,000 years. Many different subclades outside of the historic period when clans formed.

If the Abgaal clan is real, then their lineage could also be a big one by number. We might find out soon.

we can ask this abgal @convincation to do dante lab during black Friday sale November 28...

 

[Pioneer]

Congrats @Sophisticate

 

[Pioneer]

we can ask this abgal @convincation to do dante lab during black Friday sale November 28...

We already have 1 Abgaal sample our @Sloane Ranger did it.

 

[Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer]

Thx @Apollo @Libaax-Joore and @Pioneer you guys helped out a ton. Here are my preliminary results.

J-FT36669 YTree

www.yfull.com

Apparently we wuz Socotran and shiiet
But honestly seems legit like all the regions Mehris traditionally settle are represented. Thoughts?

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Thx @Apollo @Libaax-Joore and @Pioneer you guys helped out a ton. Here are my preliminary results.

J-FT36669 YTree

www.yfull.com

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Apparently we wuz Socotran and shiiet
But honestly seems legit like all the regions Mehris traditionally settle are represented. Thoughts?

Did yfull uploaded for u..... I told you is much easier and faster

 

[Libaax-Joore]

@Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer congratulations saxib

 

[Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer]

Did yfull uploaded for u..... I told you is much easier and faster

Yes lol, I gave up after I tried to upload the file for almost 2 days and still at 73 hours left

@Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer congratulations saxib View attachment 191421

Thank you bro

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Yes lol, I gave up after I tried to upload the file for almost 2 days and still at 73 hours left

Thank you bro

Much easier it takes like 30 minutes
You welcome brother

 

[Xanibacal bin Barqa]

Thx @Apollo @Libaax-Joore and @Pioneer you guys helped out a ton. Here are my preliminary results.

J-FT36669 YTree

www.yfull.com

View attachment 191402
Apparently we wuz Socotran and shiiet
But honestly seems legit like all the regions Mehris traditionally settle are represented. Thoughts?

Congrats, bro.
Are you carab salax ?
for some reason all j1 Somalis on ftdna are Darood and all of them carry the J-ZS5383 including my first cousin and most probably J-Y178104 , I been waiting for the Dante discount for months to get my YFull.

but to bad you don't cluster with other somalis but we meet at J-CTS9721 with a TMRCA of 8300 ypd

we might be a Laangaab in Somalia but we're the laandheer of the ME

 

[Libaax-Joore]

@Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer

Congrats, bro.
Are you carab salax ?
for some reason all j1 Somalis on ftdna are Darood and all of them are carry the J-ZS5383 including my first cousin and most probably J-Y178104 , I been waiting for the Dante discount for months to get my YFull.

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but to bad you don't cluster with other somalis but we meet at J-CTS9721 with a TMRCA of 8300 ypd

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we might be a Laangaab in Somalia but we're the laandheer of the ME

He match his folks in socorota

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Carab Saalax are just Arabs who became Somali, just like Hartis in Oman are Somalis who became Arab. We literally did a people swap due to trade, some Harti males went to Oman and married Meheri women and Carab Saalax men came to Puntland and married Harti women, it's a beautiful historic relationship.

I am happy that DNA results are proving this and we can finally log history with facts to back it up.

@SuldaankaMeheri @Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer

 

[Xanibacal bin Barqa]

@Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer

He match his folks in socorotaView attachment 191446

they're true Socotran Maharis

Now we can claim Socotra in their name

 

[Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer]

Congrats, bro.
Are you carab salax ?
for some reason all j1 Somalis on ftdna are Darood and all of them carry the J-ZS5383 including my first cousin and most probably J-Y178104 , I been waiting for the Dante discount for months to get my YFull.

View attachment 191442
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but to bad you don't cluster with other somalis but we meet at J-CTS9721 with a TMRCA of 8300 ypd

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we might be a Laangaab in Somalia but we're the laandheer of the ME

Yes walaal I'm Carab Salax, perhaps your ancestors came during the ancient frankincense trade between todays PL and Southern Arabia lol but eventually we have the same awoowe 8000 years ago I guess.

@Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer

He match his folks in socorotaView attachment 191446

Always a loyal son of PL, there needs to be a Socotra summit every few years between the regions. I hope both our people can be a bridge.

Carab Saalax are just Arabs who became Somali, just like Hartis in Oman are Somalis who became Arab. We literally did a people swap due to trade, some Harti males went to Oman and married Meheri women and Carab Saalax men came to Puntland and married Harti women, it's a beautiful historic relationship.

I am happy that DNA results are proving this and we can finally log history with facts to back it up.

@SuldaankaMeheri @Wiilyam Ina Sheekh Zubeer

Yes I find it really interesting how both groups assimilated into their host communities but kept their tribal names, this should be studied tbh, but beautiful indeed. It shows the cultures were mutually compatible and the populations respected each other to the highest degree and continue to do so.

Our president, boqor and suldaan all in one picture

 

[Xanibacal bin Barqa]

Yes walaal I'm Carab Salax, perhaps your ancestors came during the ancient frankincense trade between todays PL and Southern Arabia lol but eventually we have the same awoowe 8000 years ago I guess.

Always a loyal son of PL, there needs to be a Socotra summit every few years between the regions. I hope both our people can be a bridge.

Yes I find it really interesting how both groups assimilated into their host communities but kept their tribal names, this should be studied tbh, but beautiful indeed. It shows the cultures were mutually compatible and the populations respected each other to the highest degree and continue to do so.
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Our president, boqor and suldaan all in one picture

yeah there is a long history, documented and oral of Yemenis coming to our coast and getting assimilated especially by coastal Hartis ,we even have some of your Socotran cousins chilling in laasqoray right now .
A new Warsan recruits .