THE REALITY OF MADKHALIS (Salafi Publications, CCdawah, Troid Publications, etc exposed)

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

Please leave your overall thoughts on this "salafi" sect below. Do you agree with their islamic stances? Have you seen or verified any unislamic practices, especially with respect to women?

 

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

@Dawo @borednibba9 @Ayubi @Samaalic Era @Cyrus @CaliTedesse @Omar del Sur @Lum @nomadicblood

 

[المهندس]

They love protecting and making excuses for unjust rulers who are puppets to USA.

 

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

 

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

Check out this series

 

[Ayubi]

 

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

Madkhali cult support for dictators and tyranny in the muslim world is well known, including for brutal dictators like Mohammed Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia, Abdelfattah El-SISI of Egypt (checkout how they supported his sick decision to massacre thousands of Egyptians at rabaa square), Mohammed bin Zayed of the UAE and Libyan warlord Khalifah Haftar.

They are currently militarily assisting warlord Khalifah Haftar (he doesn't promote islam at all, he's a communist and baathist) in the libyan civil war against the internationally recognized government.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/analysis-libya-and-the-salafi-pawns-in-the-game/1697641

 

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

I bet you @nomadicblood and @Lum are going to reply to this video by trying to refute Muhammad hijab. Listen I don’t agree with Muhammad hijab on everything, but in this case what I say is don’t attack the messenger but attack the message. How about you refute the allegations and what’s being claimed about your cult?

 

[nomadicblood]

Maa shaa’Allaah so many comments


Prepare yourself im at work you will get response. All of you

The other post as wellcant wait

 

[Marcus]

Why do low IQ people attach themselves to these unqualified street "sheikhs"

 

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

@MrReckless

 

[المهندس]

@Lum How ?

 

[Octavian]

salafist are fucking werid that s not new

 

[Octavian]

and so what niggas scam others how on earth do you guys trusts a pack of a recently converted convics and their scummy leader walalhi some of you are truly stupid

 

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

and so what niggas scam others how on earth do you guys trusts a pack of a recently converted convics and their scummy leader walalhi some of you are truly stupid

Ill be honest a lot of the guys who call themselves salafis are hizbis (weird cult members) but if you dig deeper and are well educated on the movement you will realize they’re not all like that. Usually it’s the ones who are always saying “Ana Salafi (I am salafi)” that are the weirdos.

 

[Rageedi]

okay genuine question: what's the difference between madkhalis, salafis and wahabbis? wallahi so many sects

 

[Octavian]

okay genuine question: what's the difference between madkhalis, salafis and wahabbis? wallahi so many sects

wahabbis are fuking weird elits saudi thing witch also has a problem music and women driving salafis are a cult of ex convics i don't know about the first one

 

[ibn Yahya Al-Sooli]

okay genuine question: what's the difference between madkhalis, salafis and wahabbis? wallahi so many sects

Bro that’s a whole thread in itself. I planned on making it already but just to give you a general outline, with respect to the term “wahhabi” it is an orientalist and derogatory term for those who ascribe to the najdi dawah, a revivalist movement (during 18th and 19th centuries) begun by Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab (MIAW) in Najd (region of current day Saudi Arabia) who believed that because of certain things going on in the Arabian peninsula at the time (tawaf around grave, dua to the dead, etc) most people didn’t actually understand tawheed properly so he wrote a few books addressing the issue (book of tawheed, the 4 principles, 10 things which nullify ones islam, etc). He was largely rejected by most at the time however a powerful tribal chief named Muhammad ibn Sa’ud was convinced of MIAW’s dawah by his own wife (who is said to have been a religious woman). These two then formed an allegiance and declared a state based purely on what they saw as tawheed and worshipping Allah alone. They then spread this state militarily as far as they could within arabia fighting tribes which they believe left Islam. This was the first saudi state, a predecessor to the current Saudi state (note the first and current Saudi states are radically different from each other in how they operate). This relationship continued between MIAW and ibn Sa’ud through their sons with MIAW’s family (al-sheikh family) giving fatwas and taking care of religious matters while Ibn Saudi’s family (Al-Sa’ud) took care of political matters. Both the first and second Saudi states were destroyed by the Ottoman Empire and its allies. However, the third and current Saudi state was able to survive through assistance from the British even though the religious (al-sheikh family) and political (al-Sa’ud family) went through a civil war soon after the current Saudi state was established. Thanks to assistance from British air power the secular Al-saud quickly destroyed the Islamist warriors rebellion. It is here where the relationship between the British and Al-Sa’ud started. The religious family and followers of MIAW however were brought back into the fold during the 50’s when Saudi King Faisal who was looking to become more religious invited them to reignite the relationship saying he will rule only by the Shari’ah and tawheed. A descendant of MIAW, Muhammad ibn Ibrahim Al-sheikh accepted this invitation and he became the first grand mufti. This relationship between the Al-Sa’ud and Al-sheikh families continues to this day with Mohammed bin Salman as the crown prince and defacto political ruler of Saudi Arabia (his father king salman has dementia) and Abdulaziz Al-Sheikh as the grand mufti.

With respect to the term “Salafi” it just means someone who claim to follow the theology and methodology of the three firsts generations of Islam. Why the first three? Because there is an explicit hadith of the prophet (SAW) where he said the first three generations of Islam were upon the most Khair. You will find many different people claim to be salafi however almost all of them claim to follow the ”athari”(literalists, take religious text how they are) creed as opposed to the “ashari”(religious texts must interpreted to fit human reason/logic) creed or “maturidi/deobandi” creed (also based on reason/logic, very similar to ashari with minor differences, predominantly found in the sub-continent/South Asia). Note that every ”wahhabi” is an ”athari” but not every “athari” is a “wahhabi”.

Finally “Madkhalism” is very new phenomenon that you could say is a sect of “Wahhabism”. It began the 1990’s as a response to the controversy of Americans settling military bases in Saudi Arabia during the gulf war. The movement is ascribed to a Saudi scholar by the name of “Dr. Rabee Al-Madkhali” who famously supported the decision of Americans to have bases in Saudi Arabia. This movement is known to support the ruler of Muslims lands no matter what he says and does as long as he doesn’t outright say he’s a non-muslim. It is very popular in the west as it is promoted by many organizations some of which I have mentioned above like Salafi Publications, CCdawah, DUS dawah, and troid publications. They are especially well known in the UK led by personalities such as Abu Khadeejah, Abu Hakeem Bilal Davis, Abu Iyaad etc and in the USA in places like Philadelphia by Moosa Richardson and Hassan Al-Somalee. They are known to be harsh with all Muslims that don’t agree with them and call them innovators (mubtad’i”

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[Advokaten]

What is meaning of life anymore when i cant even trust ulema anymore?

 

[Rageedi]

Bro that’s a whole thread in itself. I planned on making it already but just to give you a general outline, with respect to the term “wahhabi” it is an orientalist and derogatory term for those who ascribe to the najdi dawah, a revivalist movement (during 18th and 19th centuries) begun by Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab (MIAW) in Najd (region of current day Saudi Arabia) who believed that because of certain things going on in the Arabian peninsula at the time (tawaf around grave, dua to the dead, etc) most people didn’t actually understand tawheed properly so he wrote a few books addressing the issue (book of tawheed, the 4 principles, 10 things which nullify ones islam, etc). He was largely rejected by most at the time however a powerful tribal chief named Muhammad ibn Sa’ud was convinced of MIAW’s dawah by his own wife (who is said to have been a religious woman). These two then formed an allegiance and declared a state based purely on what they saw as tawheed and worshipping Allah alone. They then spread this state militarily as far as they could within arabia fighting tribes which they believe left Islam. This was the first saudi state, a predecessor to the current Saudi state (note the first and current Saudi states are radically different from each other in how they operate). This relationship continued between MIAW and ibn Sa’ud through their sons with MIAW’s family (al-sheikh family) giving fatwas and taking care of religious matters while Ibn Saudi’s family (Al-Sa’ud) took care of political matters. Both the first and second Saudi states were destroyed by the Ottoman Empire and its allies. However, the third and current Saudi state was able to survive through assistance from the British even though the religious (al-sheikh family) and political (al-Sa’ud family) went through a civil war soon after the current Saudi state was established. Thanks to assistance from British air power the secular Al-saud quickly destroyed the Islamist warriors rebellion. It is here where the relationship between the British and Al-Sa’ud started. The religious family and followers of MIAW however were brought back into the fold during the 50’s when Saudi King Faisal who was looking to become more religious invited them to reignite the relationship saying he will rule only by the Shari’ah and tawheed. A descendant of MIAW, Muhammad ibn Ibrahim Al-sheikh accepted this invitation and he became the first grand mufti. This relationship between the Al-Sa’ud and Al-sheikh families continues to this day with Mohammed bin Salman as the crown prince and defacto political ruler of Saudi Arabia (his father king salman has dementia) and Abdulaziz Al-Sheikh as the grand mufti.

With respect to the term “Salafi” it just means someone who claim to follow the theology and methodology of the three firsts generations of Islam. Why the first three? Because there is an explicit hadith of the prophet (SAW) where he said the first three generations of Islam were upon the most Khair. You will find many different people claim to be salafi however almost all of them claim to follow the ”athari”(literalists, take religious text how they are) creed as opposed to the “ashari”(religious texts must interpreted to fit human reason/logic) creed or “maturidi/deobandi” creed (also based on reason/logic, very similar to ashari with minor differences, predominantly found in the sub-continent/South Asia). Note that every ”wahhabi” is an ”athari” but not every “athari” is a “wahhabi”.

Finally “Madkhalism” is very new phenomenon that you could say is a sect of “Wahhabism”. It began the 1990’s as a response to the controversy of Americans settling military bases in Saudi Arabia during the gulf war. The movement is ascribed to a Saudi scholar by the name of “Dr. Rabee Al-Madkhali” who famously supported the decision of Americans to have bases in Saudi Arabia. This movement is known to support the ruler of Muslims lands no matter what he says and does as long as he doesn’t outright say he’s a non-muslim. It is very popular in the west as it is promoted by many organizations some of which I have mentioned above like Salafi Publications, CCdawah, DUS dawah, and troid publications. They are especially well known in the UK led by personalities such as Abu Khadeejah, Abu Hakeem Bilal Davis, Abu Iyaad etc and in the USA in places like Philadelphia by Moosa Richardson and Hassan Al-Somalee. They are known to be harsh with all Muslims that don’t agree with them and call them innovators (mubtad’i”

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Mashallah thanks for the answer bro, really cleared things up.