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And when they go to ethiopia and say kill all mjs guess who is first on the line? Yh its me motherfucker
Every Majeerteen from Ethiopia Who are against president Abdi iley government should be killed they’re terrorists
 
But you have no choice but to go forward with this system. Italian colonization and the Kacaan have destroyed the credibility of Southern tribes’ traditional leaders. The bridge to traditional governance was burned behind you, no one in the south cares what a traditional leader thinks. You retain the tribal consciousnesses but it is of no use to you, it is not something you can organize a government around.

The modern nation-state was created at westphalia less than 400 years ago. It took Europe 300 years and tens of millions of deaths to arrive at that point. But even before that they had had states for a 1000 years at that point. Most modern nation-states outside of Africa have had a historical experience of being a premodern state themselves or being part of some empire. The reason why states exist is because of the sedentary nature of agriculture, farmers usually stay in one place and are easy to extort (tax). Somalis, being a pastoral people, developed cultural traits that are very antithetical to the hierarchy needed to have a state. The Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese, Russians, Indonesians, Bangladeshis, Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians, Mesopotamia, the Levant, Egypt, North Africa and all of Europe have all, I repeat all, had thousand(s) of years long experience of being beat down and made to submit to taxation by some kind of state power. This is the ground you need to build a modern nation-state on, and we simply do not have the time.

The choice is between tribal states that are better able to create solidarity, or a larger state that is not worthy of the name. The fact that the two most well functioning states in Somalia are both based on tribal affiliation only strengthens the case for the former.
There is only one option and tribal states is not it. Anything you can say about the ethno-state with multiple clans can be applied to the small qabil states at a sub-clan level. This discussion is quite delusional tbh and is only made to seem like an option on this forum lol, not sure what the point is. The overwhelming majority of Somalis support this irl no matter how a few qabilist hiding behind an anon forum try to spin it. We had a civil war like many nations before us and we are finally beginning to emerge out of it. Naturally there are still many issues but tons of improvements as well. If you qabilists on this forum actually cared about Somali people or your clan you'd be busy figuring out how to help them instead of this useless qabyalad that only does harm if anything. Either way Somalia will continue to move forward inshaAllah.
 

KULTA

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Do not let these dowladdiid criminals let you think that mjs are against Fuhrer Farmaajo and Fuhrer Kheyre. I am telling you 99% of us are team #nabadiyonolol

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There is only one option and tribal states is not it. Anything you can say about the ethno-state with multiple clans can be applied to the small qabil states at a sub-clan level. This discussion is quite delusional tbh and is only made to seem like an option on this forum lol, not sure what the point is. The overwhelming majority of Somalis support this irl no matter how a few qabilist hiding behind an anon forum try to spin it. We had a civil war like many nations before us and we are finally beginning to emerge out of it. Naturally there are still many issues but tons of improvements as well. If you qabilists on this forum actually cared about Somali people or your clan you'd be busy figuring out how to help them instead of this useless qabyalad that only does harm if anything. Either way Somalia will continue to move forward inshaAllah.


Wise woman. Halkee lagaa helaa ina adeer? I am impressed with you.

 

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There is only one option and tribal states is not it. Anything you can say about the ethno-state with multiple clans can be applied to the small qabil states at a sub-clan level. This discussion is quite delusional tbh and is only made to seem like an option on this forum lol, not sure what the point is. The overwhelming majority of Somalis support this irl no matter how a few qabilist hiding behind an anon forum try to spin it. We had a civil war like many nations before us and we are finally beginning to emerge out of it. Naturally there are still many issues but tons of improvements as well. If you qabilists on this forum actually cared about Somali people or your clan you'd be busy figuring out how to help them instead of this useless qabyalad that only does harm if anything. Either way Somalia will continue to move forward inshaAllah.

You are obviously not interested in having a discussion. Goodbye.

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People think we became the interior minister, mayor of Kismayo and the director of the Kismayo port because of the goodwill of the most untrustworthy, greedy Somali clan :pachah1:
 
Again, dumb excuse. The entire planet went from tribal and clan fiefdoms into modern nation states, not just Somalia and Europe lol. In fact most nations were formed with multiples tribes forget just clans. Somalia is overwhelming one tribe (ethnic Somalis) with many clans. The rest of the world was able to overcome their issues and so will the Somalis. And the secession talk is delusional and pointless idk why you guys bother repeating it on here.

Your conversing with a complete imbecile, the man who takes the Europhile infidel Malthusian position of overpopulation, forced sterilisation, population reduction, secularism and every other poisoned -ism that has come out of Europe.

His treachery knows no bounds and he appears to be a direct descendants of one of those munafiq's that served the colonialists, the apple never falls too far from the tree.

The only thing that will work is something that dominates qabiil entirely, and that's an Islamic state, all of our sultanates were based on strong religious foundations, we saw what happened with ICU in less then 3 months, in the space of weeks they took out the most powerful warlords heavily funded by the West and Ethiopia at the time.

Xamar would have never been like it is today without their work, no one else could have removed these criminals, those same criminals have been brought back not only by the west but also by that treacherous warlord Abdulahi Yusuf who he describes as a hero.
 
Your conversing with a complete imbecile, the man who takes the Europhile infidel Malthusian position of overpopulation, forced sterilisation, population reduction, secularism and every other poisoned -ism that has come out of Europe.

His treachery knows no bounds and he appears to be a direct descendants of one of those munafiq's that served the colonialists, the apple never falls too far from the tree.

The only thing that will work is something that dominates qabiil entirely, and that's an Islamic state, all of our sultanates were based on strong religious foundations, we saw what happened with ICU in less then 3 months, in the space of weeks they took out the most powerful warlords heavily funded by the West and Ethiopia at the time.

Xamar would have never been like it is today without their work, no one else could have removed these criminals, those same criminals have been brought back not only by the west but also by that treacherous warlord Abdulahi Yusuf who he describes as a hero.


You are wrong insulting the dead though. Pick your case against the living and let the dead rest in peace. This was my beef with others the other day. Show some class in refuting a bad idea. Only way to do that is to be better in character saxib.
 
Jubbaland wouldn't exist was it not for Puntland sxb so I don't know why you are getting emotional over but unlike Dr Osman I believe our futures are different and I don't care to stand up for each other.
Actually Puntland wouldn't exist without our traitor gabyoow. Pay homage waryaa.
 
I blame siad barre for creating this hatred of Majeerteen into the hearts of all the other Somali tribe nacaala I heard siad barre use to tell people make songs ostracising and demonising Majeerteen kkk
Don't blame MSB. MJs were treacherous before he was even born. It's in your blood to be gaalo raac. embrace it garac yahoow.
 
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