My Xog on July last year

[The Midlands]

The difference is that Eastern Hiiraan is not a major Al-Shabab stronghold like Jilib for example. You can plow through as many Shabaab as you want but they still continue to operate in Beerxaano,Tarjante, and just recently the qarax in Maxaas. The Hawiye & Gaaljecl tribes in western Hiiraan don’t want to pick up their weapons to liberate the lands. The Hawadles are being attacked and prisoned by Shabaab daily because they chose to rebel.

The reason why Ogadens are not on the offensive right now is because we are conserving our energy for when the time is right.
we are not stupid. We know DamulJadiid is not a reliable ally. Our Goal is not to only liberate Ogaden lands in Jubbaland but also non Ogaden villages under Shabaab. Doing that and in the process of making sure that the central government does not operate near our Doorsteps. We can work together yes, but from a distance…

there is no Shabaab in Hawadle territory these r fake news 100% and the guy who spread it has been arrested his jufo had issue with Ali Jeyte in buuloburde i unfolowed them after these lies. HAWADLE BORDERS WITH AL SHABAAB CEYR AT GURICEEL BORDERS, MURUSADE, ABGAAL, GUGUDHABE ONLY NOW THE ABGAAL SIDE IS SECURED 95% DONT TELL ME THEY R LIKE THESE PRO Shabaab SMALL CLANS IN JUBOOOYINKA

SIMPLY "EAST HIIRAAN" IS HAWADLE 98% NO ONE CAN LIVE AMONG US BUT FROM JILIB TO NORTH KISMAAYO YOU HAVE SHIIKHAAL; GAALJECEL CAWRAMAE, DIR AND THEN IN RASKAMBOONI FORGET ABOUT THE D&M AND TUNNI ITS A MIXED REGION you cant liberate it without kdf

I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT GAALJECEL SIDE



This the unprofessional website that spread the lies

 

[NinWero]

All countries apart of Amisom will simply join for the free cash & the less burdens involved.
The Deal that Jubbaland will sign with the UAE will be similar to that of Somaliland. With the refurbishment of the Airport and construction of a Military base for Jubbaland Darawiish. The SFG obligation is to treat the region as a special case just like they treat somaliland. there is no in between. The situation in Gedo region can be blamed by Farmaajo’s foolishness & his tribes stubbornness. They simply can’t be helped.
if Madoobe a Natural Ogaden leader does not yet have the powers to liberate Middle Juba region do you simply think HSM can steam roll in just under 2 years? Waad riyoonaysaa Sxb.

Are you seriously comparing the FGS to Ahmed Charcoals administration? Ahmed Charcoal administration has no influence outside of Kismayo and some Ogaden settlements, but outside of that in Biimaal, Gaaljecel, and Shiikhaal territories most of them would rather be under Al Shabab than Ahmed Charcoal, and we all know the situation with Gedo.

Secondly, theirs no way Ahmed Charcoal can liberate the Al Shabab-held lands, he doesn't have the troops nor the equipment to undertake a such mission. Alshabab has been preparing for this sort of attack for years, with difficult terrain and highly trained foot soldiers.

The only way to liberate it is to bring a large well trained army and air support from Turkey and the US.

 

[SPMLegend]

there is no Shabaab in Hawadle territory these r fake news 100% and the guy who spread it has been arrested his jufo had issue with Ali Jeyte in buuloburde i unfolowed them after these lies. HAWADLE BORDERS WITH AL SHABAAB CEYR AT GURICEEL BORDERS, MURUSADE, ABGAAL, GUGUDHABE ONLY NOW THE ABGAAL SIDE IS SECURED 95% DONT TELL ME THEY R LIKE THESE PRO Shabaab SMALL CLANS IN JUBOOOYINKA

SIMPLY "EAST HIIRAAN" IS HAWADLE 98% NO ONE CAN LIVE AMONG US BUT FROM JILIB TO NORTH KISMAAYO YOU HAVE SHIIKHAAL; GAALJECEL CAWRAMAE, DIR AND THEN IN RASKAMBOONI FORGET ABOUT THE D&M AND TUNNI ITS A MIXED REGION you cant liberate it without kdf

I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT GAALJECEL SIDE



This the unprofessional website that spread the lies

It’s because during the civil war Ogadens were being Marginalized in their lands and foreign clans were trying to move in using 1991 civil war as an excuse. Now Ogadens have all returned in drove to Kismaayo & Raas Kamboni building up homes and businesses. Hawadles enjoyed some form of autonomy 20 years ago while Jubooyinka was on fire constantly

It’s true that Hawadle macawilsey did much of the fighting in Eastern Hiran but remember you had support from the Djiboutian contingency of Atmis and American drone support.

 

[SPMLegend]

Are you seriously comparing the FGS to Ahmed Charcoals administration? Ahmed Charcoal administration has no influence outside of Kismayo and some Ogaden settlements, but outside of that in Biimaal, Gaaljecel, and Shiikhaal territories most of them would rather be under Al Shabab than Ahmed Charcoal, and we all know the situation with Gedo.

Secondly, theirs no way Ahmed Charcoal can liberate the Al Shabab-held lands, he doesn't have the troops nor the equipment to undertake a such mission. Alshabab has been preparing for this sort of attack for years, with difficult terrain and highly trained foot soldiers.

The only way to liberate it is to bring a large well trained army and air support from Turkey and the US.

The only clan that has land outside of Kismayo is Biimaal in Jamaame. Gaaljecl has no land, Shiikhaal have no land they are both Maxamed zubeer Shegats.

Secondly you said Madoobe has no troops that’s funny to hear you say that. Every month there are hundreds of Jubbaland Ogaden troops being trained for future operations. These troops however lack the heavy weapons needed to go around and the US Air support and reconnaissance missions for Middle Juba.

You yourself admit that the region is a jungle/difficult terrain and that Al-Shabab has trained their soldiers to counter attack. Yes we are well Aware of that . Once we are at the capacity of establishing a professional state army followed by reserves and equipped with the latest vehicles and weapons then we will take the initiatives to liberate the entire state in’sha’allah

 

[The Midlands]

It’s because during the civil war Ogadens were being Marginalized in their lands and foreign clans were trying to move in using 1991 civil war as an excuse. Now Ogadens have all returned in drove to Kismaayo & Raas Kamboni building up homes and businesses. Hawadles enjoyed some form of autonomy 20 years ago while Jubooyinka was on fire constantly

It’s true that Hawadle macawilsey did much of the fighting in Eastern Hiran but remember you had support from the Djiboutian contingency of Atmis and American drone support.

firstly there was no Djibouti or Ethiopia ivolvement in our war the only time we called Djibouti from place close to their base in buuoburdo was jicibw war. We besieged them from both sides of the river so they resorted into a wooded hill so we asked the Djiboutians to bombard them with cannons known as PM but they did not hit them they missed it Goodax talked about it in his facebook videos saying "waxaa la dhahay maba yaqaanaa hubka ay heestaan waa la gafeen ma umalanayo inaysan aqoon hala baaro" Jeyte got angry and ordered the army to open the galbeed way for them.

Sxb let us be honest you can compare Hiiraan only to Ogaden traditional tertitory in Ethiopia. From Jilib to saakow to yoontooy North of kismaayo there r hawadle families who have been living there over 100 years. CALI OSOBLES AYEEYO IS FROM BAAARDHEERE HIS FATHER WAS BORN IN 1930S. JL IS MIXED NO ONE IS MARTI WAA LA SOO WADA GALAY Haba oo kala badnaado.

 

[SPMLegend]

Sxb let us be honest you can compare Hiiraan only to Ogaden traditional tertitory in Ethiopia. From Jilib to saakow to yoontooy North of kismaayo there r hawadle families who have been living there over 100 years. CALI OSOBLES AYEEYO IS FROM BAAARDHEERE HIS FATHER WAS BORN IN 1930S. JL IS MIXED NO ONE IS MARTI WAA LA SOO WADA GALAY Haba oo kala badnaado.

the Hawadle in Jilib & Baardheere are from 1 subclan called Cabdi Yuusuf. Majority of Hawadle tribe can be found in Hiiraan region. In the past there was a big drought in North & central Somalia where some clans were moved to Sablaale to farm. The difference is that Hawadle minorities in Jubbaland are scattered through out the regions without a main base or town they can claim majority.

On the other hand Ogadens have a land barrier extending from Bakool sare region to Gedo, Middle Juba,lower Juba and into Kenya where there are multiple Ogaden clans living in respective towns,villages and districts where they can be seen dominating.

It’s true there are many Gypsy clans in JL that live amongst major clans. But to be considered a stakeholder you first need to dominate the towns and districts you are claiming.

 

[The Midlands]

Mixed degmooyin a
JILIb mainly Shiikhal and Tunni with Absame

Jamamaame mainly Dir, Raaskambooni mainly Gaaljecel and Absame

These mixed villages have more Cawramale, Gaaljecel, Shiikhaal with harti and some dalxa mx like beerxaano

Baarka, Koban, Kamsuuma, -Sanguuni, Yoontooy,

Ganjaroon, Kubbakibir, -Jannaay cabdalle, Sacmoojo, Galool yar yar,
Canjeel, Buurgaabo, -Ooddow, Manaraani, Ilig, Warfele , Leheleey, -Beerxaano,

Unguuni. Cabdalle Biroole, Buulo Xaaji

1-Cusbo, Hoosingoow, Dhasheeg Waamo, Baqdaad, Buulo gaduud, geesguud


This is why JL is not free. NORTH OF KISMAAYO 30 km LIKE GEESGUUD IS SEEKHAL CAWRAMALE GAAJECEL

 

[SPMLegend]

Mixed degmooyin a
JILIb mainly Shiikhal and Tunni

Jamamaame mainly Dir, Raaskambooni mainly Gaaljecel and Absame

These mixed villages have more Cawramale, Gaaljecel, Shiikhaal and with some dalxa mx like beerxaano

Baarka, Koban, Kamsuuma, -Sanguuni, Yoontooy,

Ganjaroon, Kubbakibir, -Jannaay cabdalle, Sacmoojo, Galool yar yar,
Canjeel, Buurgaabo, -Ooddow, Manaraani, Ilig, Warfele , Leheleey, -Beerxaano,

Unguuni. Cabdalle Biroole, Buulo Xaaji

1-Cusbo, Hoosingoow, Dhasheeg Waamo, Baqdaad, Buulo gaduud, geesguud

You used this old list from somnet
Jilib I will not contest because Absame live in Hargeisa Yareey and Mareerey and our influence beyond the Juba river in the district is not strong.

Jamaame is mainly Biimaal & Jarrerweyne
There is no Mx in Beerxaani don’t believe their lies from 12 years ago. Absame’s in kismayo are expanding their settlements in the city to incorporate that village. Beerxaani is just a few Kms from Yaaq Sac Mooja where the new Sayid Axmed islam monument was erected



Baarka,Koban, Sanguuni are all villages belonging to the shambara subclan of Jar.eerwwyne. Jubbaland treats them very well, and a good portion of the soldiers operating in Jamaame district come from that community.

KaamJaroon is the only village Gaaljecl has in the region even though it’s constantly raided by Shabaab and used as a taxation point.
Yoontooy & Buulogaduud I have no idea who makes up majority now. Those towns are now being used to resettle refugees from Middle Juba fleeing from drought and Al-Shabab dhulmi

Janaay Abdalla,Kuba kibbir, Canjeel along the Kismaayo-Afmadow road falls to the Maxamed Zubeer Ogaaden clan. Dhashag waamo itself is the heartlands of Maxamed zubeer land.

Unguumi is a coastal village now being settled by Harti tribe. Cabdala Biroole is an Cawrmale town, Buulo Xaaji is mixed because it’s where Cawrmale,Harti, and Ogaden Absame tribe cross paths to Kismayo district.

Buurgaabo,Oddow,Manaarani, Raas Kaamboni come under the Abdalla & Maqabul tribes of Ogaaden. You can find more information from my Badhaadhe district thread that I will update

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/badhaadhe-joore-district-development.125194/

 

[Prince of HS]

You used this old list from somnet
Jilib I will not contest because Absame live in Hargeisa Yareey and Mareerey and our influence beyond the Juba river in the district is not strong.

Jamaame is mainly Biimaal & Jarrerweyne
There is no Mx in Beerxaani don’t believe their lies from 12 years ago. Absame’s in kismayo are expanding their settlements in the city to incorporate that village. Beerxaani is just a few Kms from Yaaq Sac Mooja where the new Sayid Axmed islam monument was erected



Baarka,Koban, Sanguuni are all villages belonging to the shambara subclan of Jar.eerwwyne. Jubbaland treats them very well, and a good portion of the soldiers operating in Jamaame district come from that community.

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KaamJaroon is the only village Gaaljecl has in the region even though it’s constantly raided by Shabaab and used as a taxation point.
Yoontooy & Buulogaduud I have no idea who makes up majority now. Those towns are now being used to resettle refugees from Middle Juba fleeing from drought and Al-Shabab dhulmi

Janaay Abdalla,Kuba kibbir, Canjeel along the Kismaayo-Afmadow road falls to the Maxamed Zubeer Ogaaden clan. Dhashag waamo itself is the heartlands of Maxamed zubeer land.

Unguuni is a coastal village now being settled by Harti tribe. Cabdala Biroole is an Cawrmale town, Buulo Xaaji is mixed because it’s where Cawrmale,Harti, and Ogaden Absame tribe cross paths to Kismayo district.

Buurgaabo,Oddow,Manaarani, Raas Kaamboni come under the Abdalla & Maqabul tribes of Ogaaden. You can find more information from my Badhaadhe district thread that I will update

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/badhaadhe-joore-district-development.125194/

these clan demographics are so confusing lol. It seems the more south you go in Somalia, the more diverse it is clan wise. Also the more south you go the more green it gets. There’s a direct correlation there tbh

 

[SPMLegend]

these clan demographics are so confusing lol. It seems the more south you go in Somalia, the more diverse it is clan wise. Also the more south you go the more green it gets. There’s a direct correlation there tbh

Most of the regions in south central are diverse. Seems like some native Tribes are better at concealing the Gypsy clans living in their Lands then others.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

the troops will be different they are those from Eritrea alot of them are Daaarood also SOME CLANS WHO ARE PRO SHABAAB may weLcome the SNA. WHY YOU CAN'T LIBERATE JL FOR 13 YEARS IF ITS ALL DAAROOD? WITHOUT HAVING YOUR CAPACITY WE LIBERATED ALL HAWADLE TERRITORY AND ABGAAL LIBERATED THEIRS WHY OG CANT LIBERATE THEIRS? MADOBE WAS AGAINST MACAWISLEY IDEA IN JL AND SAID OUR TROOPS BACKED BY KENYA WILL START THE OPERATION! WE HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT AMISOM!

Macawisley kuumade in jubaland is bad idea but good for the OG in bakool they already have it there. We are like abgaal and only work under maamul especially in jubooyinka it took the OG elites like prof Gandhi ( defense minister of somalia) yusuf haji ( Kenya Defense) and madoobe, macalin Maxamed and xidig to bring all the kuumade clans together. That’s how we were able to gather troops within a short period back then. Macawisley doesn’t work for all clans. Same way Hawiye has been PM and president and didn’t liberate celbuur xarardheere for 15 years.

The jubaland admin has been trying to hold their position from federal government aggression since sharif basically they were against Kenya ( bc of OG) while Ugandan burundian and Ethiopians are every where in the south. Jubaland is like middle shabeele it requires amisom. Without amisom alshabab would’ve never lost an inch of middle middle shabele. I don’t see OG macawisley happening soon.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

there is no Shabaab in Hawadle territory these r fake news 100% and the guy who spread it has been arrested his jufo had issue with Ali Jeyte in buuloburde i unfolowed them after these lies. HAWADLE BORDERS WITH AL SHABAAB CEYR AT GURICEEL BORDERS, MURUSADE, ABGAAL, GUGUDHABE ONLY NOW THE ABGAAL SIDE IS SECURED 95% DONT TELL ME THEY R LIKE THESE PRO Shabaab SMALL CLANS IN JUBOOOYINKA

SIMPLY "EAST HIIRAAN" IS HAWADLE 98% NO ONE CAN LIVE AMONG US BUT FROM JILIB TO NORTH KISMAAYO YOU HAVE SHIIKHAAL; GAALJECEL CAWRAMAE, DIR AND THEN IN RASKAMBOONI FORGET ABOUT THE D&M AND TUNNI ITS A MIXED REGION you cant liberate it without kdf

I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT GAALJECEL SIDE



This the unprofessional website that spread the lies

Am from jubioyinka bro Cawrmale and shekhaal are pro jubaland and their towns are in the hands of jubaland like hosingow and cabdala biroole. The galajecel have been pro shabab just like in hiiraan but their numbers in jubaland are very small only one jufo is known with their main town of buulo gaduud under jubaland also.

The map here jubaland controls all the blue and shabab controls the red. Only the jidwaaq town of xagar needs to be freed plus buurgabo which jubaland pulled out because of dhaqaalo xumo and not being strategic. Once Buaale and middle juba is liberated shabab will be a past. It’s easier to do it in jubaland but like I said OG macawisley will not work for us.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

firstly there was no Djibouti or Ethiopia ivolvement in our war the only time we called Djibouti from place close to their base in buuoburdo was jicibw war. We besieged them from both sides of the river so they resorted into a wooded hill so we asked the Djiboutians to bombard them with cannons known as PM but they did not hit them they missed it Goodax talked about it in his facebook videos saying "waxaa la dhahay maba yaqaanaa hubka ay heestaan waa la gafeen ma umalanayo inaysan aqoon hala baaro" Jeyte got angry and ordered the army to open the galbeed way for them.

Sxb let us be honest you can compare Hiiraan only to Ogaden traditional tertitory in Ethiopia. From Jilib to saakow to yoontooy North of kismaayo there r hawadle families who have been living there over 100 years. CALI OSOBLES AYEEYO IS FROM BAAARDHEERE HIS FATHER WAS BORN IN 1930S. JL IS MIXED NO ONE IS MARTI WAA LA SOO WADA GALAY Haba oo kala badnaado.

Xawaadle live in saakow town they’re like a very peaceful families and religious non of them are in qabiil wars. Again that’s the other side of the River anything south of the river is Cawlyahan land. Most of the cawlyahn tuulo are in the south of the of the river all the way to bardheere like 15 KMS from there. The main city is where you’ll find all the residents. Xawaadle there are like top4 behind Cawlyahan I don’t know where they got chased from but they came in big numbers in the 90s the town was very peaceful and didn’t have rabshad. Macalinweyne gelidle ogaaden and xawaadle are all there. I don’t know what you would gain from an all out war bringing in hag it will just make it hard for all the residents.

 

[The Midlands]

Am from jubioyinka bro Cawrmale and shekhaal are pro jubaland and their towns are in the hands of jubaland like hosingow and cabdala biroole. The galajecel have been pro shabab just like in hiiraan but their numbers in jubaland are very small only one jufo is known with their main town of buulo gaduud under jubaland also.

The map here jubaland controls all the blue and shabab controls the red. Only the jidwaaq town of xagar needs to be freed plus buurgabo which jubaland pulled out because of dhaqaalo xumo and not being strategic. Once Buaale and middle juba is liberated shabab will be a past. It’s easier to do it in jubaland but like I said OG macawisley will not work for us.

the problem is you guys are denying the existence of other clans wich is your problem with Shaaab. Im not sure if that map is correct but al shabaab controlled red ones buuloxaaji is mainly cawramle with gaaljecel and harti and buurgaabo is Gaaljecel. No JL in the north of Kismaayo bc its same clans.
Hawadle are are scattered between Saakow jubada dhexe baardheere Gedo and diinsoor bakool but those in Gedo have moved in Dollo addo and we have adeerada in filtu. We live in Kenya too and have one seat in a county. Many xl jufooyin live in kenya.

 

[SPMLegend]

Am from jubioyinka bro Cawrmale and shekhaal are pro jubaland and their towns are in the hands of jubaland like hosingow and cabdala biroole. The galajecel have been pro shabab just like in hiiraan but their numbers in jubaland are very small only one jufo is known with their main town of buulo gaduud under jubaland also.

The map here jubaland controls all the blue and shabab controls the red. Only the jidwaaq town of xagar needs to be freed plus buurgabo which jubaland pulled out because of dhaqaalo xumo and not being strategic. Once Buaale and middle juba is liberated shabab will be a past. It’s easier to do it in jubaland but like I said OG macawisley will not work for us.

Burgabo is free I think you mistakened it with badhaadhe main town located in the center.
Hoosingow is located in Badhaadhe districts but some parts are controlled from Dhoobley district due to the Reer Abdille presence in Hoosingow.

Xagar district is the Hawd area that surrounds Afmadow & Bu’aale. It’s not strategic but if Jilib is liberated it will be much easier to control this pasture.

 

[SPMLegend]

buurgaabo is Gaaljecel. No JL in the north of Kismaayo bc its same clans.
Hawadle are are scattered between Saakow jubada dhexe baardheere Gedo and diinsoor bakool but those in Gedo have moved in Dollo addo and we have adeerada in filtu. We live in Kenya too and have one seat in a county. Many xl jufooyin live in kenya.

North of Kismayo is where Jubbaland ribbon cuts all the new Mashaaric unveiled in the district.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/jubaland-development-thread.128813/

another key issue is that you undermine Ogaden’s presence in Kismayo especially to the North of it. This thread debunks just that.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/ogaden-absame-kuumade-deegaans-in-kismaayo.124500/

in the above reply you claimed that Buurgaabo belongs to Gaaljecl. Not only is that statement false but is also dishonest.

the problem is you guys are denying the existence of other clans wich is your problem with Shaaab

You say we deny the existence of other clans but rather it is you who is trying to deny the existence of Ogadens in their own native lands.
Here’s Taliska Buurgaabo who are all Reer waamo Ogaden lads defending their homes from cadawga ummada (Qushaash).

 

[Bowda-dheer]

the problem is you guys are denying the existence of other clans wich is your problem with Shaaab. Im not sure if that map is correct but al shabaab controlled red ones buuloxaaji is mainly cawramle with gaaljecel and harti and buurgaabo is Gaaljecel. No JL in the north of Kismaayo bc its same clans.
Hawadle are are scattered between Saakow jubada dhexe baardheere Gedo and diinsoor bakool but those in Gedo have moved in Dollo addo and we have adeerada in filtu. We live in Kenya too and have one seat in a county. Many xl jufooyin live in kenya.

All those clans have xidihibaano under jubaland just like the xero clans in hiiraan were under xawaadle these clans were under harti or Absame. Majority rules minority bro we don’t want too many actors in jubaland especially the two jubas. Inta in the interest of the gobol to have one majority clan dominating. Galjecel was the most recent to arrive in jubaland. Just because the region has been lawless because of the daarood in fighting doesn’t mean it’s a region that can be controlled from outside. Hag is nothing in jubaland unless they want to cross from kg and start a civil war in juboyinka in the name of we want shurunshur to have big share. it will never happen it would just be another ceyr -reer diini.

 

[Macawisley]

Hawadle in Jubaland need their rights, I find it weird we have more land than Dhulbahante in Jubaland yet they have more MPs and Minister than us I get it it’s Darood FMS but still that’s something that’s not acceptable

I guess maybe the liberation of Middle Juba will open up many opportunities. Inshallah.

We should have few MPs, Minister and DC of Saakow and Deputy Gov of Middle Juba. We have been bamboozled

 

[Bowda-dheer]

Hawadle in Jubaland need their rights, I find it weird we have more land than Dhulbahante in Jubaland yet they have more MPs and Minister than us I get it it’s Darood FMS but still that’s something that’s not acceptable

I guess maybe the liberation of Middle Juba will open up many opportunities. Inshallah.

We should have few MPs, Minister and DC of Saakow and Deputy Gov of Middle Juba. We have been bamboozled

The xawaadle in saakoow are good people. Inshallah we will give them deputy mayor of sakow city. What subclan are they cabdi yusuf or alamagar?