I wont argue with what scholars you believe has agreed on.Nope, she can't. Even if the clause is added, it can't result an automatic divorce. That right to take another wife was already made halal in the Holy Quran provided the man can provide sufficiently to both families and can provide justice to all of his wives. If those 2 conditions are met, the bro is in business.
The point is under this condition it'll be hard or impossible for me to be polygamous. What happens after the contract was ended is besides the point.
Nope, your 2nd marriage will still be valid. But it simply gives the woman an easier option as to stay or leave. I’m sorry, but marriage isn’t a hostage situation. Even the Prophet’s s.a.w daughter Fatima didn’t want to be in a polygamous marriage and it wasn’t just due to the fact that it was Abu Jahl’s daughter. Actual scholars note that the Prophet s.a.w feared for her imaan due to her jealousy and not being able to handle it. Hence, imagine us everyday women who probably don’t have even a fraction of the iman Fatima R.A did?
Saxib, you used Sh. Munajjid. This is his view with regards to the marriage contract:
Lol, all I can do at this point is laugh. You’re not normal. Good luck. Even @Hamzza called you out on your nonsense.I still laugh at you though after you called for the arrest of those scholars in Mogadishu. You're an extremist in this topic, and when people are in that stage, then reason escapes them. Let us not forget the "feminist" claim in your bio.
Women who agree to be a man's second or third (or even fourth, akhas) wife also need to be held accountable. I'd never think of destroying someone else's family like that - why don't they exercise any empathy for the first wife?
That's why I said it'll be hard or impossible to have 2 wives when you're under this condition.
Yes, this is allowed but I will advise men from delegating divorce rights to women. Allah has given the right of divorce to the man for a reason. Talaq is the most hated of the permissible things to Allah.
Not me. Preferably other races that value family that’s just me though.
But so is restricting the husbands rights to move the family to another town or country which he has the right to do as the head of the family. Why would polygamy which in the Shafi madhab isn’t even a sunnah btw as Imaam Shafi believed it is better to be with one woman be any different? Does that mean any condition is haram? Let’s be real most conditions are in fact restricting things that are completely halal.
Yes, but it’s an alternative for Shafi women who do not want to be in polygamous marriages. Like I said, marriage shouldn’t be a hostage situation in which someone is forced to bare more than they necessarily can. I didn’t even think of that initially until I saw a fatwa by a Shafi scholar who said that is an alternative for women who follow the Shafi opinion.
I wouldn’t condemn these women as polygamy in Islam is halal and they have the full right to exercise that option, but what I find detestable is women who go into these unions knowing that the husband hasn’t told his wife and is keeping the marriage a secret from the wife and that usually includes his family and the community as in order to keep it a secret other members need to be kept in the dark. We’d all agree, even the guys here that a woman who agrees to be kept a secret in a monogamous marriage probably has serious self-worth issues, hence it’s the same for polygamous marriage if not worse as you’re agreeing with terms and conditions that put you and another woman at a serious disadvantage, breeds resentment and hostility, results in siblings not knowing of each other’s existence for at least numerous years and it’s immoral in all senses.
Lol, please don’t embarrass yourself.
If a woman has a polygamy clause, there is no dispute as the husband has clearly violated the contract. She can annul straight away. The scholar clearly notes that it’s a condition:
That fatwa has nothing to do with the polygamy clause. I don’t understand why you keep on posting it.If they can resolve it, it is good. If they can't, then the couple can part ways by going through the divorce process. Bottom line, the automatic divorce that you and a few other users have been arguing has no religious backing.
Fyi, that scholar's view on this topic is fully explained in this link: https://fiqh.islamonline.net/en/seeking-divorce-from-a-husband-who-wants-a-second-wife/
Aren't you the same cat contemplating to snatch another Xalimos fiance in another thread?I need to ask my imam if sperm donors are halal because I don’t want to damn myself to hell for killing my potential husband
What if the husband doesn't love the old wife anymore? Maybe she can't satisfy he's needs etc.. Should he just stay in a dead marriage?
The whole post to Javelin was about men who can’t afford to marry again or have the time to treat wives equally. Doing so is haram. If you want to put your own happiness over the expense of justice, your children and even worse Akhira, go ahead.
Slow down a bit sis, I'm not advocating for anything.. Obviously the unhappy wife should seek divorce from the cheating husband.. I was highlighting most men who seek a second wife or a side chick do so obviously because of something they're not getting from their current wife.. Men cheating on their partners is not only Confined to Somali men it happens all the time.. Even cadaan oday you was defending in another thread probably cheated on his old wife and got with a young xalimo, but I guess you don't mind to vilify because he's not a Somali man.. Same can be said about Ilhan Omar's Jewish husband he ditched his old wife to get with her.. I think women like only have energy to condemn Somali men, must be a self hate within.
NoAren't you the same cat contemplating to snatch another Xalimos fiance in another thread?
