Breaking News: Federal States suspend relations with the one bedroom Villa Xamar

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MX are rightful leaders of Jubbaland and federalism is the law of the land but how its currently implemented is unacceptable.
Unacceptable to whom to you? Who are you and What tribe are you since somalia government in mogadishu is based on qabil 4.5 system ?
 

Hassan Garguute Buldanana

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If folks would put aside thier anti federalism bias for one minute they will know the spoilers are the FG. This problem goes back to previous governments who havent done shit to move the country. From finalizing the dastuur to security. Ffs, villa somalia gets mortar attack daily iska daa wax kale, yet they are only obsessed with destroying federalism. First it was why are the state governments meeting foreign leaders and now is why are the state governments having annual meetings lol
 

SomaliMVP

Somali chauvinist
I can only speak for my federal state Puntland Alhamdulillah it is not a shithole maybe your federal state is but not mine.

If I was a qabiilist Puntland would also be my federal state. I even met Gaas. I have family closely working with him. I should be supporting him no matter what because of qabiil but I don't.

I see Puntland for what it is. A qabiil state infested with corruption. Sure it might be a little better than the other federal states but it is a shithole to me. I guess my standards are a higher than yours.

What I want is a united government so that we can attract some real investors to Somalia. No one is going to invest in Somalia when the roads are shit and the electricity is too expensive. Political instability and each member state having different laws is also scaring away anyone who would want to invest in us.

You want competition between qabiils but we should be working together competing against the world.
 

Hassan Garguute Buldanana

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If I was a qabiilist Puntland would also be my federal state. I even met Gaas. I have family closely working with him. I should be supporting him no matter what because of qabiil but I don't.

I see Puntland for what it is. A qabiil state infested with corruption. Sure it might be a little better than the other federal states but it is a shithole to me. I guess my standards are a higher than yours.

What I want is a united government so that we can attract some real investors to Somalia. No one is going to invest in Somalia when the roads are shit and the electricity is too expensive. Political instability and each member state having different laws is also scaring away anyone who would want to invest in us.

You want competition between qabiils but we should be working together competing against the world.
Delusional kumbaya
 

Farm

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If I was a qabiilist Puntland would also be my federal state. I even met Gaas. I have family closely working with him. I should be supporting him no matter what because of qabiil but I don't.

I see Puntland for what it is. A qabiil state infested with corruption. Sure it might be a little better than the other federal states but it is a shithole to me. I guess my standards are a higher than yours.

What I want is a united government so that we can attract some real investors to Somalia. No one is going to invest in Somalia when the roads are shit and the electricity is too expensive. Political instability and each member state having different laws is also scaring away anyone who would want to invest in us.

You want competition between qabiils but we should be working together competing against the world.

You act like Mogadishu is some paradise it’s the biggest shithole, you are talking about a federal government that doesn’t even control a block in a single city... I’ll stick to Puntland my state and the state I can trust not the terror infested xamar that is cursed for reasons we all know.
 

Abdalla

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This was uncalled for. It's a waste of time and resources.
 

SomaliMVP

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You act like Mogadishu is some paradise it’s the biggest shithole, you are talking about a federal government that doesn’t even control a block in a single city... I’ll stick to Puntland my state and the state I can trust not the terror infested xamar that is cursed for reasons we all know.

I never said that. Muqdisho is the worst city in Somalia. Al-shabaab runs that city.

That attitude of yours "that is yours and this is mine'' is holding us back. The federal government is corrupt and useless. You think that Al-shabaab will go away? The won't. They will only expand.

What I am saying is focus on reconsiliaton because the hatred you see between Somalis is not going away. Al-Shabaab is the least of our problems. The hatred is. I am sorry that you are unable to see it. Unless we stop competing against each other we will always be a shithole. Qabiil states will only get you so far. A united centralist goverment is the only way we can rebuild Somalia.
 

Abdalla

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I never said that. Muqdisho is the worst city in Somalia. Al-shabaab runs that city.

That attitude of yours "that is yours and this is mine'' is holding us back. The federal government is corrupt and useless. You think that Al-shabaab will go away? The won't. They will only expand.

What I am saying is focus on reconsiliaton because the hatred you see between Somalis is not going away. Al-Shabaab is the least of our problems. The hatred is. I am sorry that you are unable to see it. Unless we stop competing against each other we will always be a shithole. Qabiil states will only get you so far. A united centralist goverment is the only way we can rebuild Somalia.

You're all over the place. You just admitted that the government is toothless and that their seat, Mogadishu, us the worst city controlled by Alshabab. However somehow a centralist government is the only way forward. WTF are you on?
 

SomaliMVP

Somali chauvinist
You're all over the place. You just admitted that the government is toothless and that their seat, Mogadishu, us the worst city controlled by Alshabab. However somehow a centralist government is the only way forward. WTF are you on?

How could an M.D in Majeerteentitis not understand that qabiilism is ruining Somalia?

The federal government is corrupt like the rest of every federal member states. With enough money, I could be an M.P in Muqdisho or Garowe. Tell me I'm wrong.

The government in Xamar is useless because of the hatred between Somalis. They don't want to pay taxes for the greater good of Somalia. They don't want to hold the government in Xamar accountable. They don't want to work together. Would you be willing to support a fair, not corrupt centralized government in Xamar over Puntland? Of course, you would not. Tell me I'm wrong.

If these federal member states really wanted federalism they would pay a share of the taxes to the federal government (under strict conditions so it won't get stolen) but then the corrupt leaders would have nothing to steal. They would contribute their armies to the SNA but then they would lose their power. The that is your and this is mine mentality will never bring prosperity to Somalia. It will only hold us back.
 

Farm

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How could an M.D in Majeerteentitis not understand that qabiilism is ruining Somalia?

The federal government is corrupt like the rest of every federal member states. With enough money, I could be an M.P in Muqdisho or Garowe. Tell me I'm wrong.

The government in Xamar is useless because of the hatred between Somalis. They don't want to pay taxes for the greater good of Somalia. They don't want to hold the government in Xamar accountable. They don't want to work together. Would you be willing to support a fair, not corrupt centralized government in Xamar over Puntland? Of course, you would not. Tell me I'm wrong.

If these federal member states really wanted federalism they would pay a share of the taxes to the federal government (under strict conditions so it won't get stolen) but then the corrupt leaders would have nothing to steal. They would contribute their armies to the SNA but then they would lose their power. The that is your and this is mine mentality will never bring prosperity to Somalia. It will only hold us back.


Why would I care about developing xamar? I developed my land. I don’t live in xamar nor would I ever want to... xamar is a lost cause instead of blaming federalism, how about you blame the root of the problem? federalism is the solution.
 
Why would I care about developing xamar? I developed my land. I don’t live in xamar nor would I ever want to... xamar is a lost cause instead of blaming federalism how about you blame the root of the problem, federalism is the solution.
It is the solution for places like PL not diverse places like JL. That is why PL stretches from Gaalkacyo to Bosaso but JL is mainly Kismayo.

Clan maamul can work with one main clan in its territory. MJs mainly live in one big chunk of land are not seperated like other clans. The solution for MJs is not the same solution for others.

Federalism = Maamul Qabiil. Let's not kid ourselves
 

SomaliMVP

Somali chauvinist
Why would I care about developing xamar? I developed my land. I don’t live in xamar nor would I ever want to... xamar is a lost cause instead of blaming federalism, how about you blame the root of the problem? federalism is the solution.

:noneck:

Walaal, the whole of Somalia is your land. If bombs go off in Xamar it affects the way foreign investors look at Somalia. They won't invest. That means no loans to rebuild our electrical grid and our highways. Garowe might be save, but no one in their right mind will invest. Puntland might have the best education in Somalia but without a real government in Xamar there will be no jobs.

That is why you should care.
 

Farm

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:noneck:

Walaal, the whole of Somalia is your land. If bombs go off in Xamar it affects the way foreign investors look at Somalia. They won't invest. That means no loans to rebuild our electrical grid and our highways. Garowe might be save, but no one in their right mind will invest. Puntland might have the best education in Somalia but without a real government in Xamar there will be no jobs.

That is why you should care.

That’s precisely why I am apart of PIM.
 
Farmaajo only rules his toilet and nothing else, Gaas should go to the big man running the show(Kheyri)
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
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How could an M.D in Majeerteentitis not understand that qabiilism is ruining Somalia?

The federal government is corrupt like the rest of every federal member states. With enough money, I could be an M.P in Muqdisho or Garowe. Tell me I'm wrong.

The government in Xamar is useless because of the hatred between Somalis. They don't want to pay taxes for the greater good of Somalia. They don't want to hold the government in Xamar accountable. They don't want to work together. Would you be willing to support a fair, not corrupt centralized government in Xamar over Puntland? Of course, you would not. Tell me I'm wrong.

If these federal member states really wanted federalism they would pay a share of the taxes to the federal government (under strict conditions so it won't get stolen) but then the corrupt leaders would have nothing to steal. They would contribute their armies to the SNA but then they would lose their power. The that is your and this is mine mentality will never bring prosperity to Somalia. It will only hold us back.

You just admitted that the SFG is corrupt to the core, why should PL pay taxes to a corrupt, toothless central government? You're all over the place
 

SomaliMVP

Somali chauvinist
You just admitted that the SFG is corrupt to the core, why should PL pay taxes to a corrupt, toothless central government? You're all over the place

For an M.D you suck at reading. I explained to you why the SFG does not work and what should be done to fix it. But for a qabiilist like you it unthinkable to think of your country first over your qabiil.
 
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