Wow. There is a limit to self growth huuno. My limit is teaching my dad how to ride a bike
Excuse meeeee???
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You never see somali men fighting for their kids
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Wow. There is a limit to self growth huuno. My limit is teaching my dad how to ride a bike
Excuse meeeee???
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I'm a dayuuth for telling somali women to not neglect their children ?@Bundasliga @Woke1.4rm.Shibis @Enter @TekNiKo @Keep it a boqol 💯 @K-M-O
You guys are all dayuuth. Going to work for what? Provide for who? when all your kids were kidnapped? On a weekend?!
Are you guys actually mentally retarded? You know damn well these ain’t shit abdis had their wives on ceyr, hence why the government was on their asses anyway.
Dayuus, that’s why the women in somalia work while the men chew khat.
Dayuus and farax are synonymous at this point. Someone needs to add this to the thesaurus ASAP.
The women in this video dont look like their working or taking care of their children , if they didnt neglect the children they wouldnt have to go out and protests.
My father worked hard to provide for us and discipline us while our mother raised us . maybe your father Was a khat addict dayuus that came home in the wee hours dont project your daddy issues on all somali men .
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This Fatima buraanbur lady’s story sounds very fishy, why would social services take away her children because of an argument. She was probably leaving her children alone whilst she was out at weddings and someone must have reported her .
Children don’t get taken away for no reason, Somali people need to understand even things such as leaving your children alone at home can be considered as neglect .
And those same halimos cry out to Somali men after they get divorced with their muuq-shabeel kids. Internet is full of such women.
They go online and bash the Somali community for discriminating them and their kids with "leapord skin". The problem with Somalis losing kids in EU is due to the fact that we're having many kids in a land that is not suitable to them. And crux of the matter stops at Halimos. They need to deploy birth control and family planning. What is the point of having 8 kids in the span of 10 years? It is crazy and outrageous.
That being said, Farahs aren't blameless. They should be there with their wives and kids and defending them. They should also be working hard and supporting, instead of letting the system raise them. Not every Farah is in this category, but some are, and they need to do better.
The majority of young Western raised educated Xalimos don't even have a lot of kids. All the young mums I know all have 2-3 kids and work in professional jobs.And those same halimos cry out to Somali men after they get divorced with their muuq-shabeel kids. Internet is full of such women.
The problem with Somalis losing kids in EU is due to the fact that we're having many kids in a land that is not suitable to them. And crux of the matter stops at Halimos. They need to deploy birth control and family planning. What is the point of having 8 kids in the span of 10 years? It is crazy and outrageous.
That being said, Farahs aren't blameless. They should be there with their wives and kids and defending them. They should also be working hard and supporting, instead of letting the system raise them. Not every Farah is in this category, but some are, and they need to do better.
Its the fobs and tbh its the fobs that tend to be the one that have issues with their kids being taken away from them.
Also, blaming a fob woman for having multiple children isn't 100% fair considering we're a nation that loves having many many kids and view it as wealth, especially the husbands. Being 'landheere' for them trumps all, and many do threaten to have multiple wives or leave if the wife refuses to conform to this.
Well, if all that "Western-educated" xalimos do is to brag about feminism online and Somali men bashing is instead of educating their less unfortunate sisters about family planning, what does the so-called "education" that you referred to achieve for you?
It is not like all Somalis are going to move to the West, so keep emphasizing "western-educated" xalimos is pointless here. Who cares where someone got his (or her) education. What matters is what positive impact you bring back to the Somali community. I'm pretty sure Somali men bashing is not a solution.
Besides, referring to recent arrivals into the West as FOB is actually misplaced and wrong. Each one of us or families have arrived the West at some point, so there is nothing special about coming to the West.
With respect to the "laandheere" sentiment, it has been pretty norm for every society and wasn't something exclusive to Somalis. But due to the technological revolution and changing landscape, that mentality is backfiring especially in urban areas. This is where family planning needs to be discussed within the Somali community, especially in the West. And if the "Western-educated" xalimos want to help her community, they need to educate other women about the importance of family planning instead of feeding the younger generation with Somali men hating.
And especially to those that married out, first that is their choice. But they need to stop having chip on their shoulders, especially if their relatives and larger community are not so welcoming. It is a personal decision that you took while knowing the consequences, so trying to spoil the minds of yournger xalimos isn't going to bring a comfort in that regard!!
(Fyi, if the non-Somali husband is a Muslim, he is our brother and welcome in my book) 
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Are you really blaming women for the behavior of the men? What can we women change with regards to an attitude that has existed well before our birth that stems mostly from the men?! Can we stop these men from threatening their wives for not having more kids with polygamy they can hardly afford or leaving them for another woman? So even if we do 'educate' the women, is that going to stop their husbands from leaving or marrying another so that he can continue is 'landheere' fantasy despite not even looking after the kids?!Well, if all that "Western-educated" xalimos do is to brag about feminism online and Somali men bashing is instead of educating their less unfortunate sisters about family planning, what does the so-called "education" that you referred to achieve for you?
It is not like all Somalis are going to move to the West, so keep emphasizing "western-educated" xalimos is pointless here. Who cares where someone got his (or her) education. What matters is what positive impact you bring back to the Somali community. I'm pretty sure Somali men bashing is not a solution.
Besides, referring to recent arrivals into the West as FOB is actually misplaced and wrong. Each one of us or families have arrived the West at some point, so there is nothing special about coming to the West.
With respect to the "laandheere" sentiment, it has been pretty norm for every society and wasn't something exclusive to Somalis. But due to the technological revolution and changing landscape, that mentality is backfiring especially in urban areas. This is where family planning needs to be discussed within the Somali community, especially in the West. And if the "Western-educated" xalimos want to help her community, they need to educate other women about the importance of family planning instead of feeding the younger generation with Somali men hating.
And especially to those that married out, first that is their choice. But they need to stop having chip on their shoulders, especially if their relatives and larger community are not so welcoming. It is a personal decision that you took while knowing the consequences, so trying to spoil the minds of yournger xalimos isn't going to bring a comfort in that regard!!
Use your brain. I emphasized the fact that they're fobs and that the women who aren't in that predicament being Western raised to illustrate this is a cultural issue.
It seems to me you lack any accountability. At the end of the day, in Islam having many kids is seen as a blessing, but we have a cultural issue of expecting a woman to bear many without the husband making sacrifices and actually helping the wife nurture the kids. It works back home as women have maids and family around them, but its difficult in the West and if these men want to continue having many, they need to change their attitude and help with everyday household running.
Your agenda is clear to see. You're actually blaming married Somali women for having multiple children like they're able to reproduce by themselves. They're not women who are having kids outside of Wedlock authobillah.
We rent a house to a Somali family. They're composed of husband, wife, and four kids. The husband is much older man and has another wife back home. I met him the other day in a mall. He revealed that his wife, after giving birth to the fourth kid, put an end to having any more kids despite his displeasure with that decision.
Why do I reveal that true story? It is to demonstrate that the solution is in women's hands. If she wants to carry out family planning, and the husband wants to have more kids, she can simply tell him I'm done.
Besides, a husband who is willing to take a second wife isn't gonna stop for his first wife having more kids. I see guys with 7 or 8 kids taking second wives, sometimes third wives. As long as they can support their wives, they are gonna do it if they want to marry again. Therefore, your excuse to men threatening to take several wives if their wives don't have more childtren isn't something that really can stand up to scrutiny. The current wife's responsibility is how many kids she can carry in her womb - her health being big part of it - and how many can she support in the real world in the event that her husband is no longer around.
Frankly, blaming every challenge on men is pretty dumb. Both husband and wife have a role to play, but the ultimate decision of how many kids she wants to have is in the woman's hands.
Lastly, the crux of my comment was that the Somali community in the West needs to have a discussion about family planning. Our community is having challenges in the diaspora, and having many kids while the family is poor is big part of it. Therefore, we need the newcomers and existing ones educated on challenges that they would face if they want to continue with mantra of having many kids in an environment that is not conducive to their upbringing Islamically.
Fyi, I didn't repeat the other point this time!
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Lol, you've just proved me right. His wife said no more kids and what did he do? He married again looooool.We rent a house to a Somali family. They're composed of husband, wife, and four kids. The husband is much older man and has another wife back home. I met him the other day in a mall. He revealed that his wife, after giving birth to the fourth kid, put an end to having any more kids despite his displeasure with that decision.
Why do I reveal that true story? It is to demonstrate that the solution is in women's hands. If she wants to carry out family planning, and the husband wants to have more kids, she can simply tell him I'm done.
Besides, a husband who is willing to take a second wife isn't gonna stop for his first wife having more kids. I see guys with 7 or 8 kids taking second wives, sometimes third wives. As long as they can support their wives, they are gonna do it if they want to marry again. Therefore, your excuse to men threatening to take several wives if their wives don't have more childtren isn't something that really can stand up to scrutiny. The current wife's responsibility is how many kids she can carry in her womb - her health being big part of it - and how many can she support in the real world in the event that her husband is no longer around.
Frankly, blaming every challenge on men is pretty dumb. Both husband and wife have a role to play, but the ultimate decision of how many kids she wants to have is in the woman's hands.
Lastly, the crux of my comment was that the Somali community in the West needs to have a discussion about family planning. Our community is having challenges in the diaspora, and having many kids while the family is poor is big part of it. Therefore, we need the newcomers and existing ones educated on challenges that they would face if they want to continue with mantra of having many kids in an environment that is not conducive to their upbringing Islamically.
Fyi, I didn't repeat the other point this time!
Saxib, i've seen first hand cases of women being pressured by husbands and even his family pressuring him to marry again due to the 1st wife not having more. The majority of women do not want to be put into that predicament. Some of these men and families hardly care about affordibility ect. This is a social issue and men need to be educated to stop seeing their wives as baby making machines. Even if they would still marry again if their wives provide lots of kids, they use that excuse a lot.
You even said, in the diaspora being poor is a big part of it. Well imagine your average husband saying he wants to marry again because you're not giving him more kids and he wants to spend much needed money on another woman?! That is the unfortunate mentality of many Faraxs and its about time you face reality. But that mentality will continue because all you lot do is encourage it and make excuses for them. Ironic really, as there is a thread right now of a Farax in the West trying to marry again and wait for it....for more kids.
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He was already married in Somalia before he married again the lady that put the limit to 4.
Your whole mind is caught up with polygamy. Tough luck of stopping what Allah (swt) made halal.
The solution to many kids born in the West is instituting family planning. You can continue blaming Faraxs, but that would never resolve anything. Ladies should understand family planning like the lady, who after 4 kids, stopped having kids. If you want to dance around that, it is pointless of continuing this discussion.
Again another obsession on Faraxs marrying second or third or even fourth wife. If he can support all of his families, more power to him. It is halal in Islam and people are gonna continue doing it.
If these men could afford to have multiple families then wives would be able to have as many kids she and her husband want. The reason why you're talking to me about family planning is due to lack of affordability and time with regards to raising kids. Therefore, such man wouldn't be able to be in a polygamous marriage.
You seriously lack logic.
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@Roorigeg @Angelina you both have a point . Xalimos & faraxs want a big family with multiple kids the truth is it isn't feasible in the west at all!
whether from a financial standpoint, time spending standpoint or a supportive system like extended family.
There is a reason even western people have less & less kids which wasn't the case 100+ years ago .
Western capitalistic society is hostile towards the big nuclear family.
whether from a financial standpoint, time spending standpoint or a supportive system like extended family.
There is a reason even western people have less & less kids which wasn't the case 100+ years ago .
Western capitalistic society is hostile towards the big nuclear family.
Bla bla you'll never see Somali men fighting for their kids bla bla.
In the west, the kids belong to their mother, the dad has never had any power anyway.
What's there to fight for?
In the west, the kids belong to their mother, the dad has never had any power anyway.
What's there to fight for?
I've seen @Mercury before, guy is definitely a man. He is maarin, bald and has beard. He is just very progressive when it comes to housework and other aspects. To each their own, and it clearly works with this brother. He seems to have a very happy and successful marriage
. The marriage life isn't for me personally.
. The marriage life isn't for me personally.You should 
be there for your kids, I don't see the contention and controversy surrounding this. Cooking and cleaning is a life skill horta, there is nothing emasculating about doing these things either.
be there for your kids, I don't see the contention and controversy surrounding this. Cooking and cleaning is a life skill horta, there is nothing emasculating about doing these things either.Are you even Muslim? What kind of cope out is that? You will be held accountable for your children and wife in the hereafter whether you live in the west, east, north! This is a blatant example of having no self awareness nor accountability. Fix you mindset you sound like a coward. If not don’t get married nor have children! Simple.
How are you even questioning whether I'm a Muslim or not?
There's no cope only facts, the guy/dad isn't respected in the societies we live in. That's all I said. The guy has no say in anything, his role is replaced by the government, there's no need for a dad in terms of providing and so on.. everyone is taken care of.
