Yasir Qadhi claims Sunni ahadith are all fabricated

[Abdixakim]

 

[LacagChaser]

YQ has been wilding out the last couple of years. Can’t believe I used to listen to him.

 

[Diophantus]

I wouldn't go that far but good for him. Sunnis deify hadith and the saxaba to a great extent tbh.

Also, that's not what he said? He's just saying depending on what assumptions you take, you arrive at different conclusions. No where did he say any of the stuff in the title. Kinda clickbaity ngl.

 

[Basra]

I love me Yasir Qadhi! The Sheikh of my love!

 

[TheLand]

I wouldn't go that far but good for him. Sunnis deify hadith and the saxaba to a great extent tbh.

Also, that's not what he said? He's just saying depending on what assumptions you take, you arrive at different conclusions. No where did he say any of the stuff in the title. Kinda clickbaity ngl.

 

[Diophantus]

You know i ain't lying tho.

 

[Gacmeey]

He’s saying the way that the preservation of Hadith is proven is different to the way the preservation of the Quran is proven. This is why the Quran is accepted when critiquing via the historical critical method (a western method with western assumptions) whilst the Hadith sciences aren’t accepted in western academia.

TLDR: He is talking about the acceptance of Hadith sciences by western scholars using western methods and assumptions

 

[Samaale55]

YQ himself believes in traditional Ilm-al Hadith. That doesn't contradict his point that if you go into an academic setting, they don't accept the historicity of the Hadith corpus. This used to be the case with the Qur'an going back to the Prophet (S) in the field, but recent, material discoveries like the Sanaa palimpsest and the Birmingham manuscript as well as advancements in radiocarbon dating have shifted views.

 

[therandomone]

If hadith science was western they would hold it in the highest regard ever. Hadith science took the the lives blood and sacrifices of many muslims to uphold. Western standard is a fart in comparison they take things from anecdotal evidence and clearly biased point of views, only fair representation of vikings came from Muslims cause other westerners would lie all the time and make stupid assumptions or not even know the language they are writing books about a domain for the entitled brats. To be fair to yasir qadi he was only listing what the western academia believe, however I still dont like him because of his zombie gog and magog theories

 

[Diophantus]

If hadith science was western they would hold it in the highest regard ever. Hadith science took the the lives blood and sacrifices of many muslims to uphold. Western standard is a fart in comparison they take things from anecdotal evidence and clearly biased point of views, only fair representation of vikings came from Muslims cause other westerners would lie all the time and make stupid assumptions or not even know the language they are writing books about a domain for the entitled brats. To be fair to yasir qadi he was only listing what the western academia believe, however I still dont like him because of his zombie gog and magog theories

I call bs on this. From my own understanding, most hadiths stand on shaky ground. Some muslims groups believed the same. Only later did they become this thing thats almost a second quran. Thats when things started going downhill imho

 

[therandomone]

I call bs on this. From my own understanding, most hadiths stand on shaky ground. Some muslims groups believed the same. Only later did they become this thing thats almost a second quran. Thats when things started going downhill imho

Another stupid kid who doesn't know what he is talking about. Hadith authenticity is clearer than any other historic text. Multiple chains leading to the same hadith, each narrator is verified and would be dismissed if he even had small inconvenience about him. Hadith like Quran is guarded by allah

 

[Diophantus]

Another stupid kid who doesn't know what he is talking about. Hadith authenticity is clearer than any other historic text. Multiple chains leading to the same hadith, each narrator is verified and would be dismissed if he even had small inconvenience about him. Hadith like Quran is guarded by allah

The chain being correct does not imply the contents of the hadith are also correct. The westerners are not the first to look at hadith with suspicion. Lots of other muslims were before them.

I just can't trust something that has been written literal hundreds of years after the prophet. Especially with something as important as islam. Others believed this as well saying that the only hadiths that could be used in matters of theology were mutawatir hadith.

Muslim, Bukhari and their like are super overrated imho. They did hard work sure, but they were off the mark.

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

The logical conclusion of two decades of fervent anti-Ashari talk.

When you attack the people who consult the Hadith, attacking the Hadith itself is where your talk will wander.

 

[therandomone]

Muslim, Bukhari and their like are super overrated imho. They did hard work sure, but they were off the mark.

 

[cunug3aad]

The chain being correct does not imply the contents of the hadith are also correct. The westerners are not the first to look at hadith with suspicion. Lots of other muslims were before them.

I just can't trust something that has been written literal hundreds of years after the prophet. Especially with something as important as islam. Others believed this as well saying that the only hadiths that could be used in matters of theology were mutawatir hadith.

Muslim, Bukhari and their like are super overrated imho. They did hard work sure, but they were off the mark.

You have to remember most of the time the nebi csw was not addressing people one on one but rather he would address a large number of people at once. So those people would all internalise his words and pass it on to next couple generations like this. And you have to remember these are the same couple generations that became xaafidul quraan without touching the mushaf. These axaadiith saxiix ah that bukhaari and muslim et al were compiling were collected from all these different people who heard from different people and from a whole 30 seconds worth of speech just maybe one word has a synonym with another narrator. And even that is scrutinised based on the worthiness of the chain

These people were human shields for the nebi why would they change words around. Its precisely because the chains are so robust that it has to link to something the prophet said. Otherwise some random donny was delivering khutbahs and no one noticed just absorbed the words coming off the guy. I hope you see why this is a naive point