Yasir Qadhi claims Sunni ahadith are all fabricated

Diophantus

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I wouldn't go that far but good for him. Sunnis deify hadith and the saxaba to a great extent tbh.

Also, that's not what he said? He's just saying depending on what assumptions you take, you arrive at different conclusions. No where did he say any of the stuff in the title. Kinda clickbaity ngl.
 
I wouldn't go that far but good for him. Sunnis deify hadith and the saxaba to a great extent tbh.

Also, that's not what he said? He's just saying depending on what assumptions you take, you arrive at different conclusions. No where did he say any of the stuff in the title. Kinda clickbaity ngl.
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Gacmeey

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He’s saying the way that the preservation of Hadith is proven is different to the way the preservation of the Quran is proven. This is why the Quran is accepted when critiquing via the historical critical method (a western method with western assumptions) whilst the Hadith sciences aren’t accepted in western academia.

TLDR: He is talking about the acceptance of Hadith sciences by western scholars using western methods and assumptions
 
YQ himself believes in traditional Ilm-al Hadith. That doesn't contradict his point that if you go into an academic setting, they don't accept the historicity of the Hadith corpus. This used to be the case with the Qur'an going back to the Prophet (S) in the field, but recent, material discoveries like the Sanaa palimpsest and the Birmingham manuscript as well as advancements in radiocarbon dating have shifted views.
 
If hadith science was western they would hold it in the highest regard ever. Hadith science took the the lives blood and sacrifices of many muslims to uphold. Western standard is a fart in comparison they take things from anecdotal evidence and clearly biased point of views, only fair representation of vikings came from Muslims cause other westerners would lie all the time and make stupid assumptions or not even know the language they are writing books about a domain for the entitled brats. To be fair to yasir qadi he was only listing what the western academia believe, however I still dont like him because of his zombie gog and magog theories
 

Diophantus

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If hadith science was western they would hold it in the highest regard ever. Hadith science took the the lives blood and sacrifices of many muslims to uphold. Western standard is a fart in comparison they take things from anecdotal evidence and clearly biased point of views, only fair representation of vikings came from Muslims cause other westerners would lie all the time and make stupid assumptions or not even know the language they are writing books about a domain for the entitled brats. To be fair to yasir qadi he was only listing what the western academia believe, however I still dont like him because of his zombie gog and magog theories
I call bs on this. From my own understanding, most hadiths stand on shaky ground. Some muslims groups believed the same. Only later did they become this thing thats almost a second quran. Thats when things started going downhill imho
 
I call bs on this. From my own understanding, most hadiths stand on shaky ground. Some muslims groups believed the same. Only later did they become this thing thats almost a second quran. Thats when things started going downhill imho
Another stupid kid who doesn't know what he is talking about. Hadith authenticity is clearer than any other historic text. Multiple chains leading to the same hadith, each narrator is verified and would be dismissed if he even had small inconvenience about him. Hadith like Quran is guarded by allah
 

Diophantus

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Another stupid kid who doesn't know what he is talking about. Hadith authenticity is clearer than any other historic text. Multiple chains leading to the same hadith, each narrator is verified and would be dismissed if he even had small inconvenience about him. Hadith like Quran is guarded by allah
The chain being correct does not imply the contents of the hadith are also correct. The westerners are not the first to look at hadith with suspicion. Lots of other muslims were before them.

I just can't trust something that has been written literal hundreds of years after the prophet. Especially with something as important as islam. Others believed this as well saying that the only hadiths that could be used in matters of theology were mutawatir hadith.

Muslim, Bukhari and their like are super overrated imho. They did hard work sure, but they were off the mark.
 

Mohamedamiin120

Marxist-Leninist, OG.
The logical conclusion of two decades of fervent anti-Ashari talk.

When you attack the people who consult the Hadith, attacking the Hadith itself is where your talk will wander.
 

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