Xalimo Believes Illegitimate Children Should Be Accepted By Somalis

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

I´d say 7

That is remarkably high, if impressive. Let me ask you: in the following verses, what do you think is going on, in terms of blind faith, bearing in mind this was documented some approx. 1,500 years ago, well before modern science, and technology:

a)
وَآيَةٌ لَّهُمُ اللَّيْلُ نَسْلَخُ مِنْهُ النَّهَارَ فَإِذَا هُم مُّظْلِمُونَ ‎﴿٣٧﴾‏ وَالشَّمْسُ تَجْرِي لِمُسْتَقَرٍّ لَّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ تَقْدِيرُ الْعَزِيزِ الْعَلِيمِ ‎﴿٣٨﴾‏ وَالْقَمَرَ قَدَّرْنَاهُ مَنَازِلَ حَتَّىٰ عَادَ كَالْعُرْجُونِ الْقَدِيمِ ‎﴿٣٩﴾‏ لَا الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِي لَهَا أَن تُدْرِكَ الْقَمَرَ وَلَا اللَّيْلُ سَابِقُ النَّهَارِ ۚ وَكُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ ‎﴿٤٠﴾

Bear with me for a moment, and this is not testing you knowledge of the Qur'an, but in the context of this conversation, I wanted to bring it in, before I move on to the actual question. Think of it as a build-up to something.

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[KinsiHilaac]

That is remarkably high, if impressive. Let me ask you: in the following verses, what do you think is going on, in terms of blind faith, bearing in mind this was documented some approx. 1,500 years ago, well before modern science, and technology:

a)
وَآيَةٌ لَّهُمُ اللَّيْلُ نَسْلَخُ مِنْهُ النَّهَارَ فَإِذَا هُم مُّظْلِمُونَ ‎﴿٣٧﴾‏ وَالشَّمْسُ تَجْرِي لِمُسْتَقَرٍّ لَّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ تَقْدِيرُ الْعَزِيزِ الْعَلِيمِ ‎﴿٣٨﴾‏ وَالْقَمَرَ قَدَّرْنَاهُ مَنَازِلَ حَتَّىٰ عَادَ كَالْعُرْجُونِ الْقَدِيمِ ‎﴿٣٩﴾‏ لَا الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِي لَهَا أَن تُدْرِكَ الْقَمَرَ وَلَا اللَّيْلُ سَابِقُ النَّهَارِ ۚ وَكُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ ‎﴿٤٠﴾‏

Well it is impressing, I can´t say anything else

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Well it is impressing, I can´t say anything else

No worries. Let us rest there for the eve, and continue another day.

I thank you for indulging me. Very good of you.

 

[Abdisamad]

That is remarkably high, if impressive. Let me ask you: in the following verses, what do you think is going on, in terms of blind faith, bearing in mind this was documented some approx. 1,500 years ago, well before modern science, and technology:

a)
وَآيَةٌ لَّهُمُ اللَّيْلُ نَسْلَخُ مِنْهُ النَّهَارَ فَإِذَا هُم مُّظْلِمُونَ ‎﴿٣٧﴾‏ وَالشَّمْسُ تَجْرِي لِمُسْتَقَرٍّ لَّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ تَقْدِيرُ الْعَزِيزِ الْعَلِيمِ ‎﴿٣٨﴾‏ وَالْقَمَرَ قَدَّرْنَاهُ مَنَازِلَ حَتَّىٰ عَادَ كَالْعُرْجُونِ الْقَدِيمِ ‎﴿٣٩﴾‏ لَا الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِي لَهَا أَن تُدْرِكَ الْقَمَرَ وَلَا اللَّيْلُ سَابِقُ النَّهَارِ ۚ وَكُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ ‎﴿٤٠﴾

Bear with me for a moment, and this is not testing you knowledge of the Qur'an, but in the context of this conversation, I wanted to bring it in, before I move on to the actual question. Think of it as a build-up to something.

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Could you translate the Arabic part? What does it say?

 

[Shangani]

accusing someone of zina is just as bad as zina. She is clearly a married women so where did you get the statement that she has an Illegitimate child fear God.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

@Abdisamad​

Roughly, and I am just a pupil in these matters, this entails how light is removed from the sun so as to arrive at, give way to the night, the rotation of the sun, and the moon round the orbit, and how each is set on course, timed, the process of one overtaking the other, and with there being no collision. I brought it up to raise another point, which I wanted to tie back to its pertinence to nucleus of the family, but perhaps another eve.

The order, the balance, the structure, and how when removed, or tempered with, or an imbalance is being introduced, how chaos settles in, voila!

I wanted to also introduce the concept of duality, which is critical to the subject matter, but as I said, perhaps another eve.

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(37) And a sign for them is the night. We remove from it [the light of] day, so they are
in darkness.

(38) And the sun runs [on course] toward its stopping point. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.

(39) And the moon - We have determined for it phases, until it returns [appearing] like the old date stalk.

(40) It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.

 

[Abdisamad]

@Abdisamad​

Roughly, and I am just a pupil in these matters, this entails how light is removed from the sun so as to arrive at, give way to the night, the rotation of the sun, and the moon round the orbit, and how each is set on course, timed, the process of one overtaking the other, and with there being no collision. I brought it up to raise another point, which I wanted to tie back to its pertinence to nucleus of the family, but perhaps another eve.

The order, the balance, the structure, and how when removed, or tempered with, or an imbalance is being introduced, how chaos settles in, voila!

I wanted to also introduce the concept of duality, which is critical to the subject matter, but as I said, perhaps another eve.

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(37) And a sign for them is the night. We remove from it [the light of] day, so they are
in darkness.

(38) And the sun runs [on course] toward its stopping point. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.

(39) And the moon - We have determined for it phases, until it returns [appearing] like the old date stalk.

(40) It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.

I see, thanks for clarifying.

 

[Ozymandias]

Dawg atleast she's having children. Better than being childless like a lot of Diaspora Somali women will be.

How is that worse than literal zina mate

 

[Macawisley]

Very cringe, I don’t even pay attention to this type of shit, it’s disheartening to see some of our people be advocates for that type of lifestyle. Subxanallah

 

[Sophisticate]

How does disapproval equate to dehumanization?

It is clear that children born to married parents have more favourable academic, health and economic outcomes than those born to unmarried parents (even for those who live together).

Moreover, supporting a lifestyle that is disadvantageous is problematic. Paternal investment from unmarried fathers is lower than their married counterparts.

Also, there are far fewer OOW births among Muslims than people espousing other beliefs so I fail to see why this is brought up. If anything it's men who do this more than women in the Somali community. And often do so with ajnabis. As these women are more inclined to have sex outside of marriage (as they are often gaalo).

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[Abdisamad]

How does disapproval equate to dehumanization?

It is clear that children born to married parents have more favourable academic, health and economic outcomes than those born to unmarried parents (even for those who live together).

Moreover, supporting a lifestyle that is disadvantageous is problematic. Paternal investment from unmarried fathers is lower than their married counterparts.

Also, there are far fewer OOW births among Muslims than people espousing other beliefs so I fail to see why this is brought up. If anything it's men who do this more than women in the Somali community. And often do so with ajnabis. As these women are more inclined to have sex outside of marriage (as they are often gaalo).

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You are probably, but why are some women promoting this lifestyle?, on twitter and sspot as well.

 

[Sophisticate]

You are probably, but why are some women promoting this lifestyle?, on twitter and sspot as well.

No clue other than being hyperliberal. I never met a Somali born OOW personally.

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[Abdisamad]

No clue other than being hyperliberal. I never met a Somali born OOW personally.

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I see..

 

[johnsepei5]

My face rn enjoying my Earl Grey tea while reading the thread.

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Dawg you look like those adeers who chill at dahabshill internet shops and play turub

 

[Abdisamad]

Dawg you look like those adeers who chill at dahabshill internet shops and play turub

 

[hippy60]

My face rn enjoying my Earl Grey tea while reading the thread.

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Love the cup patterns .

 

[Khaem]

It’s not immoral. It’s only immoral to you because a religious book has told you that.
You haven’t looked around to see that 90% of complications children born outside a marriage face are because of the stigmatization

It’s common sense that a marriage is not a guarantee of a good childhood for the kid involved so I’m wondering why you’re so pro “ kids from a marriage”

Are you trying to justify degenerate behaviour?? You do realise the breakdown of the family is also the breakdown of the community. Thanks but there is a reason all cultures look down on people having out of wedlock kids.

 

[Waa dhamatay]

Zina and OOW children should never be normalized but shaming the child when they had no say in how they were created is what’s f*cked up to me. That’s a creation of Allah swt you are talking about. And they are innocent.

Also a lot of men that will shame women for having OOW children have committed zina in the past. I will go ahead and estimate that around 70% of Muslim men in the west have had sex before marriage. So to sit on a high horse when you are no different to the woman you are shaming is hypocritical.

Doubt. Only 20% of muslim men are like that max. The rest are either decent/average men staying chaste or just incel

 

[Arma]

Some fantastic comments. Big up, Sspot

 

[garangar]

Dawg atleast she's having children. Better than being childless like a lot of Diaspora Somali women will be.

There's a word for this mentality:

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