WOW!100-years-ago Britain abandoned 500 Somali men far away frm Somalia, the men married Bantus

[Grant]

Lord Delamere: The Godfather of Kenya’s Agricultural Economy

http://nairobiwire.com/2016/08/lord-delamere-the-godfather-of-kenyas-agricultural-economy.html

It was Delamere who settled the Isahakia at Naivasha, but all he had was a 99 year lease.

 

[roble]

the bantus in Somalia have their permanent home,the most fertile and talk too much of discrimination that don't exist,,and here you have Somalis their land taken by the Kenyan govt as soon as it became independent in 1960.
its real certain groups have 'crying racism' in lock.

 

[Basra]

So Lord D did them a favor. He introduced them to Kenya, a better suited environment than the sahara somaliland

RKelly u r just mad because of qabilism. U r a qabilist. lol

 

[Factz]

So Lord D did them a favor. He introduced them to Kenya, a better suited environment than the sahara somaliland

RKelly u r just mad because of qabilism. U r a qabilist. lol

You're talking about Puntland. Somaliland has many fertile places like Gabiley district, Southeast of Awdal region, Odweyne district, Sheikh mountains and Sanaag highlands. It has no deserts at all but dry soil meaning it can fixed with modern day irrigation and the country can become 100% green very easily.

 

[Grant]

the bantus in Somalia have their permanent home,the most fertile and talk too much of discrimination that don't exist,,and here you have Somalis their land taken by the Kenyan govt as soon as it became independent in 1960.
its real certain groups have 'crying racism' in lock.

The Naivasha group were on land leased by Delamere. Neither he nor they owned it. If they are resettled as indicated, the land will be a gift.


"Members of the Isahakia community in Naivasha have a reason to smile after the government moved in to resettle them after over 100 years wait. In the first phase, the community which was the first to resettle in Naivasha will receive over 5,000 acres after the National Land Commission approved the process. "

The best farmland in Somalia was nationalized and transferred to majority clan ownership or politically connected businessmen beginning in the 1970s. Traditional landholding by the farmers themselves has been essentially wiped out.

http://www.observatori.org/paises/pais_74/documentos/64_somalia.pdf

"Beginning in the 1970s, for example, state laws nationalized access to land
and water as well as imposed severe restrictions on the livestock
and qat (a popular stimulant) trades, stripping the nomads
and rural farmers of their productive assets (Besteman 1996: 127). By making state-
controlled title registration the only legal way to hold land, the land tenure laws of the
1970s and 1980s quickly resulted in the nationalization of the nation’s most fertile and
densely populated farmland. This land was then transferred to small cliques of politicians
or politically connected businessmen. In some cases entire villages of local farmers in
the North, and to a lesser extent in the South, became victims of Barre’s scientific
socialism (Besteman. 1996: 127).
The state became the primary means to achieve wealth because the private market
was systematically regulated and destroyed by bureaucrats. People increasingly had to
turn to state aid to meet their basic survival needs. In 1978 the regime started its political
decline, and massive aid from the Soviet Union ceased because of Somalia’s war with
another Soviet satellite, Ethiopia. This increased the competition between urban
bureaucrats and rural farmers for state resources, leaving the countryside in shambles.
The chaos of Somalia’s failing economy was made worse by the addition of hundreds of
thousands of refugees after Somalia’s defeat in the Ogaadeen War.
A major program to resettle all refugees started immediately after Somalia’s
defeat in the Ogaadeen War. By 1981, 700,000 refugees were being resettled in the
North to weaken the Isaaq clan, which was openly resisting Barre’s regime (Schraeder:
647). The northern clans, primarily made up of the Isaaq, were non-hierarchical
pastoralists who resisted government attempts at centralization and increased
control; the southern clans were more open to political manipulation because of years
of political favors and government money (Schraeder: 648). As refugees displaced
northern farmers and the government confiscated ever-larger tracts of land
for their resettlement, fighting broke out between the malnourished refuugees,
the Somali Armed Forces, and the dispossessed farmers. This eventually led to the 1991
civil war. As resettlement continued in the north, it became clear that areas in the South
and around Mogadishu would need to be opened for resettlement if all
refugees were to receive land. This upset the southern clans, which were previously loyal to Barre’s regime, and an insurgency began shortly after the arrival of the first refugees (Schraeder: 651)"

 

[Basra]

You're talking about Puntland. Somaliland has many fertile places like Gabiley district, Southeast of Awdal region, Odweyne district, Sheikh mountains and Sanaag highlands. It has no deserts at all but dry soil meaning it can fixed with modern day irrigation and the country can become 100% green very easily.

yes convince yourself

 

[Factz]

yes convince yourself

You should really marry Grant since you're a self hater and try to discredit Somalis alot.

 

[World]

A few individuals may have but isaaq sijui don’t marry ajnabis women often. They tend to stick to themselves or fellow Somalis.

 

[roble]

The Naivasha group were on land leased by Delamere. Neither he nor they owned it. If they are resettled as indicated, the land will be a gift.


"Members of the Isahakia community in Naivasha have a reason to smile after the government moved in to resettle them after over 100 years wait. In the first phase, the community which was the first to resettle in Naivasha will receive over 5,000 acres after the National Land Commission approved the process. "

The best farmland in Somalia was nationalized and transferred to majority clan ownership or politically connected businessmen beginning in the 1970s. Traditional landholding by the farmers themselves has been essentially wiped out.

http://www.observatori.org/paises/pais_74/documentos/64_somalia.pdf

"Beginning in the 1970s, for example, state laws nationalized access to land
and water as well as imposed severe restrictions on the livestock
and qat (a popular stimulant) trades, stripping the nomads
and rural farmers of their productive assets (Besteman 1996: 127). By making state-
controlled title registration the only legal way to hold land, the land tenure laws of the
1970s and 1980s quickly resulted in the nationalization of the nation’s most fertile and
densely populated farmland. This land was then transferred to small cliques of politicians
or politically connected businessmen. In some cases entire villages of local farmers in
the North, and to a lesser extent in the South, became victims of Barre’s scientific
socialism (Besteman. 1996: 127).
The state became the primary means to achieve wealth because the private market
was systematically regulated and destroyed by bureaucrats. People increasingly had to
turn to state aid to meet their basic survival needs. In 1978 the regime started its political
decline, and massive aid from the Soviet Union ceased because of Somalia’s war with
another Soviet satellite, Ethiopia. This increased the competition between urban
bureaucrats and rural farmers for state resources, leaving the countryside in shambles.
The chaos of Somalia’s failing economy was made worse by the addition of hundreds of
thousands of refugees after Somalia’s defeat in the Ogaadeen War.
A major program to resettle all refugees started immediately after Somalia’s
defeat in the Ogaadeen War. By 1981, 700,000 refugees were being resettled in the
North to weaken the Isaaq clan, which was openly resisting Barre’s regime (Schraeder:
647). The northern clans, primarily made up of the Isaaq, were non-hierarchical
pastoralists who resisted government attempts at centralization and increased
control; the southern clans were more open to political manipulation because of years
of political favors and government money (Schraeder: 648). As refugees displaced
northern farmers and the government confiscated ever-larger tracts of land
for their resettlement, fighting broke out between the malnourished refuugees,
the Somali Armed Forces, and the dispossessed farmers. This eventually led to the 1991
civil war. As resettlement continued in the north, it became clear that areas in the South
and around Mogadishu would need to be opened for resettlement if all
refugees were to receive land. This upset the southern clans, which were previously loyal to Barre’s regime, and an insurgency began shortly after the arrival of the first refugees (Schraeder: 651)"

in Somalia since the military govt and afterwards it was equal opportunity disaster for everyone except ofc govt cronies.Before 1969 the bantus had their land and the catastrophe befallen on us later affected all not thm only.
and those Somalis in naivasha should've kept that land given to thm in 1800s that actually didn't belong to anyone at the time,,all what am saying is the Kenyan govt wouldn't have bothered if they were kikuyus,kalenji or any otha bantu tribes.

 

[BANTU]

Isaaq are heavy in Kenya, in Tanzania, and in Uganda....Isaaq are the Jews of East Africa

 

[Grigori Rasputin]

We outa marry from this list tribe

 

[Apollo]

Exaggeration much.

Most of them, if not all of them, look full Somali. I can sniff about Bantu when I see it. They don't have much if any.

Some of the truly Bantu looking ones in the crowd are their neighbours from different ethnic groups.

 

[Walanwaal]

We outa marry from this list tribe

You just want that shaniqua booty while maintaining somali status. Shanajma