Would you still be a Muslim even if EVERYONE ELSE wasn't?

[Hafez]

@JohnDoe forgive me for insulting you... I shouldn't have used derogatory terms when addressing you. I sincerely pray that Allah (SWT) guides you.

 

[JohnDoe]

@JohnDoe forgive me for insulting you... I shouldn't have used derogatory terms when addressing you. I sincerely pray that Allah (SWT) guides you.

Appreciate the gesture and all the best with your finance degree.

 

[Hafez]

Saaxib I chewed you up and spat you out with my original comment about the whale. Everything that followed was just me lending you respect.

Whale? Sxb you've made yourself look like a clown wallahi. This is 10 pages of you getting your ass handed to you.

For your information, it's possible to survive inside a whale until you're out of oxygen and thus cannot breath. Jonah (AS) made a supplication to Allah (SWT) for that reason.

 

[Somali psycho]

One thing that irks me the most is that prophet Noah lived for over 950 years, how is that possible?

What was his diet like? Did he regularly exercise?

 

[maman waaq]

Go back to the Las Anod caves and worship the cows.

thank you but i live in caabudh waaq and i always go to ceel waaq to pay homage to waaq or eebe

 

[Racer]

Prophecies from the Qur’an

The triumph of the Byzantines over the Persians

1. The Byzantine and Persian Empires were the super-powers of the time. It was during the years when the few believers were severely persecuted in Makka that the Persians utterly defeated the Byzantines. They had sweeping victories, and conquered Aleppo, Antioch, and the chief Syrian provinces, including Damascus. Jerusalem fell to their arms in 614-615. The Christians were massacred and their churches burnt. The Persian flood of conquest went on to Egypt, and reached as far as Tripoli in North Africa. Another Persian army ravaged Asia Minor and reached right up to the gates of Constantinople. The Makkan pagans rejoiced greatly, and redoubled their taunts and persecution against the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, whose Message was a renewal of the Message of Jesus preached in Palestine. The following Qur’anic verses, which were revealed just at that time, gave certain tidings of a very near victory of the Romans over the Perisans:

The Romans have been defeated in a land close by, but they, after their defeat, will be victorious, within nine years. God’s is the command in the former case and in the latter, and on that day believers will rejoice, with the help of God. He helps to victory whom He wills. He is the All-Mighty, the All-Compassionate. (al-Rum, 30.1-5)

No one at that time could make such a prediction. But the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, conveyed these Divine Revelations to his followers. They confirmed him without hesitation and Abu Bakr bet the Makkan polytheists that the Romans would be victorious in nine years. Heraclius, the Roman Emperor attacked the Persians initially by sea in 622 (the year of the Hijra), and after decisive battles and three successive campaigns, put them to rout in a few years. His victories happened at the same time as the believers won the victory of Badr over the Makkan polytheists. Thus the verses above contained two predictions, both of which came true in nine years.


There are two problems with Muhammad's prophecy as follows.

1. Problem #1: The Einstein Method guidelines are that the words be frozen on paper before the event occurs. The "official" Qur'an was not recorded and collected onto paper until 653 CE (worst case). The best case date for recording the Qur'an is 634 CE. However, the event foretold believed to be uttered by Muhammad in 615 was completed by 627 CE (Romans would conquer the Persians). Since the "official" Qur'an with this prophecy was written down in 653 CE, the end event occurred 26 years before it was recorded. (Even the best case of 634 CE for the original Qur'an being recorded and collected is 7 years after the end event). Was the prophecy changed to meet the perceived prediction after the event occurred?
   Since the Qur’an was written after the event occurred, the scientific method does not permit analyses as a truly prophetic event. Separate from the scientific method, it takes "blind faith" to accept this event as being from outside time-space. Muslims view these Qur’anic verses as prophetic since they believe the verses were memorized and maybe they were written down before the event occurred. No one will ever know.
   
   • Problem #2: The Einstein Method guidelines require that the foretold event cannot occur during the lifetime of the prophet. The scientific reason is simply that a so-called prophet can reason through the odds that an event could occur. If the odds are good, then the prophecy is given.
   Many Muslim scholars portray that it would have been difficult for Muhammad to perceive that the Romans would defeat the Persians. However, the Romans (Byzantines) were the world power of Muhammad's day. Therefore, most people would expect that the Romans would be able to defeat the Persians as time passed.
   

Since we are using the Einstein Method to analyze religion, this Qur'anic prophecy has low credibility based on the two guidelines above. The only potential evidence that the prophecy is real is that it would have been memorized and never changed. This cannot be verified based on the evidence for when the Qur'an was published.



The Qur’an gave the news that the dead body of Pharaoh would one day be discovered

3. In ancient Egypt, Pharaoh used to torture the Children of Israel. God sent Moses to him with the mission of inviting him to believe in One God and allow the Israelites to leave Egypt with Moses. Pharaoh refused and the struggle between them continued for a long time. However, one night Moses succeeded in marching towards the frontier with his people but Pharaoh, becoming aware of his attempt, set out to follow him. When Moses reached the Red Sea, he touched it with his staff, and a furrow opened across the sea. Pharaoh attempted to follow him, but was engulfed with his legions. While narrating this event, The Qur’an makes a very interesting prediction:

Today We shall preserve your body that you may be a sign to those after you: although most men give no heed to Our signs. (Yunus, 10.92)

The dead body of Pharaoh was later found floating on the Western shores of the Sinai peninsula. The native residents can still show you to this land, which is now known as Jabal Firawn (Hill of Pharaoh). A few miles from this hill is a hot spring called Hammam Firawn (the Bath of Pharaoh).

Are you fkin with me ?? you call this a prophecy finding a dead body ???

Tidings of the Last Day

5. A considerable part of the Qur’an is about the events of the Last Day. The Qur’an describes how the world will be destroyed and re-built again and how the dead will be raised, assembled in the Place of Mustering, and, after being judged, will go to either Paradise or Hell. The Qur’an also gives a vivid description of Paradise and Hell and the life in them.

Again ???

The Messenger predicted ‘Ammar’s martyrdom in a civil war

3. Bukhari, Muslim and Ahmad ibn Hanbal record:

During the construction of the Prophet’s Mosque in Madina, God’s Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings, told ‘Ammar:

What a pity O ‘Ammar, a rebellious group will kill you.

‘Ammar was killed in the Battle of Siffin by the supporters of Mu‘awiya, who rebelled against Caliph ‘Ali.

This is not a prophecy these guys were in constant war and he made a right guess that he will die, just like when a sergeant or some one of command tells and warns his troop straight that they might die since they are at war smh

and on and on it goes niin yahoow keep sipping on that Islam juice ain't nobody got time to go through all these far flung prophecies smh

 

[Hafez]

One thing that irks me the most is that prophet Noah lived for over 950 years, how is that possible?

What was his diet like? Did he regularly exercise?

Scholars of Islam suggested for centuries that the length of days where shorter in the past. This is due to the moon slowing down the rotation of the Earth.

Although I did initially say there's no proof for heliocentrism, even if they were, it wouldn't be contradictory to Islam at all. I said there's no proof for it, I didn't say it's contradictory to Islam.

"The length of an Earth day has been increasing slowly throughout most of the Earth's 4.5-billion-year history, says Dr Rosemary Mardling, mathematical scientist at Monash University, and it all has to do with the Moon."

"The reason is that the Moon is attempting to slow down the spin of the Earth. The Earth was spinning very much faster when the Moon was formed," says Mardling.

"Back when the Moon was formed the length of an Earth day was a very brief two to three hours, and a much closer Moon was orbiting the Earth every five hours."

 

[Bahal]

^^^^^

 

[Hafez]

Prophecies from the Qur’an

The triumph of the Byzantines over the Persians

1. The Byzantine and Persian Empires were the super-powers of the time. It was during the years when the few believers were severely persecuted in Makka that the Persians utterly defeated the Byzantines. They had sweeping victories, and conquered Aleppo, Antioch, and the chief Syrian provinces, including Damascus. Jerusalem fell to their arms in 614-615. The Christians were massacred and their churches burnt. The Persian flood of conquest went on to Egypt, and reached as far as Tripoli in North Africa. Another Persian army ravaged Asia Minor and reached right up to the gates of Constantinople. The Makkan pagans rejoiced greatly, and redoubled their taunts and persecution against the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, whose Message was a renewal of the Message of Jesus preached in Palestine. The following Qur’anic verses, which were revealed just at that time, gave certain tidings of a very near victory of the Romans over the Perisans:

The Romans have been defeated in a land close by, but they, after their defeat, will be victorious, within nine years. God’s is the command in the former case and in the latter, and on that day believers will rejoice, with the help of God. He helps to victory whom He wills. He is the All-Mighty, the All-Compassionate. (al-Rum, 30.1-5)

No one at that time could make such a prediction. But the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, conveyed these Divine Revelations to his followers. They confirmed him without hesitation and Abu Bakr bet the Makkan polytheists that the Romans would be victorious in nine years. Heraclius, the Roman Emperor attacked the Persians initially by sea in 622 (the year of the Hijra), and after decisive battles and three successive campaigns, put them to rout in a few years. His victories happened at the same time as the believers won the victory of Badr over the Makkan polytheists. Thus the verses above contained two predictions, both of which came true in nine years.


There are two problems with Muhammad's prophecy as follows.

1. Problem #1: The Einstein Method guidelines are that the words be frozen on paper before the event occurs. The "official" Qur'an was not recorded and collected onto paper until 653 CE (worst case). The best case date for recording the Qur'an is 634 CE. However, the event foretold believed to be uttered by Muhammad in 615 was completed by 627 CE (Romans would conquer the Persians). Since the "official" Qur'an with this prophecy was written down in 653 CE, the end event occurred 26 years before it was recorded. (Even the best case of 634 CE for the original Qur'an being recorded and collected is 7 years after the end event). Was the prophecy changed to meet the perceived prediction after the event occurred?
   Since the Qur’an was written after the event occurred, the scientific method does not permit analyses as a truly prophetic event. Separate from the scientific method, it takes "blind faith" to accept this event as being from outside time-space. Muslims view these Qur’anic verses as prophetic since they believe the verses were memorized and maybe they were written down before the event occurred. No one will ever know.
   • Problem #2: The Einstein Method guidelines require that the foretold event cannot occur during the lifetime of the prophet. The scientific reason is simply that a so-called prophet can reason through the odds that an event could occur. If the odds are good, then the prophecy is given.
   Many Muslim scholars portray that it would have been difficult for Muhammad to perceive that the Romans would defeat the Persians. However, the Romans (Byzantines) were the world power of Muhammad's day. Therefore, most people would expect that the Romans would be able to defeat the Persians as time passed.

Since we are using the Einstein Method to analyze religion, this Qur'anic prophecy has low credibility based on the two guidelines above. The only potential evidence that the prophecy is real is that it would have been memorized and never changed. This cannot be verified based on the evidence for when the Qur'an was published.



The Qur’an gave the news that the dead body of Pharaoh would one day be discovered

3. In ancient Egypt, Pharaoh used to torture the Children of Israel. God sent Moses to him with the mission of inviting him to believe in One God and allow the Israelites to leave Egypt with Moses. Pharaoh refused and the struggle between them continued for a long time. However, one night Moses succeeded in marching towards the frontier with his people but Pharaoh, becoming aware of his attempt, set out to follow him. When Moses reached the Red Sea, he touched it with his staff, and a furrow opened across the sea. Pharaoh attempted to follow him, but was engulfed with his legions. While narrating this event, The Qur’an makes a very interesting prediction:

Today We shall preserve your body that you may be a sign to those after you: although most men give no heed to Our signs. (Yunus, 10.92)

The dead body of Pharaoh was later found floating on the Western shores of the Sinai peninsula. The native residents can still show you to this land, which is now known as Jabal Firawn (Hill of Pharaoh). A few miles from this hill is a hot spring called Hammam Firawn (the Bath of Pharaoh).

Are you fkin with me ?? you call this a prophecy finding a dead body ???

Tidings of the Last Day

5. A considerable part of the Qur’an is about the events of the Last Day. The Qur’an describes how the world will be destroyed and re-built again and how the dead will be raised, assembled in the Place of Mustering, and, after being judged, will go to either Paradise or Hell. The Qur’an also gives a vivid description of Paradise and Hell and the life in them.

Again ???

The Messenger predicted ‘Ammar’s martyrdom in a civil war

3. Bukhari, Muslim and Ahmad ibn Hanbal record:

During the construction of the Prophet’s Mosque in Madina, God’s Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings, told ‘Ammar:

What a pity O ‘Ammar, a rebellious group will kill you.

‘Ammar was killed in the Battle of Siffin by the supporters of Mu‘awiya, who rebelled against Caliph ‘Ali.

This is not a prophecy these guys were in constant war and he made a right guess that he will die, just like when a sergeant or some one of command tells and warns his troop straight that they might die since they are at war smh

and on and on it goes niin yahoow keep sipping on that Islam juice ain't nobody got time to go through all these far flung prophecies smh

This guy has a low IQ lol. I know you're marveled at these awe-inspiring Prophesies made by the Prophet Muhammad (SAW). The Prophesy that al-Hasan (RA) would make peace between two large Muslims, the Prophesy that Aisha (RA) would rebel against Ali (RA) which happened in the battle of Siffin, the Prophesy that the khawaarij will appear, he mentioned their physical appearance, etc. I can go on for too long. You have the internet to do your research.

Edit: You can not possibly "predict" these events.

 

[Hafez]

^^^^^

Have you not heard of Tidal acceleration?

 

[Racer]

Muslims smh practing cognitive dissonance and bias confirmation for the longest, check this vid out this muslim guy confirming every thing about evolution, and then back tracks on one thing that is the human evolution niin yahoow dadkaan wa Cajiib

 

[Bahal]

Have you not heard of Tidal acceleration?

Please do yourself a favor and stop talking before you cause more innocent Muslims to leave the deen



I honestly am starting to believe you're a sophisticated atheist troll

 

[Racer]

This guy has a low IQ lol. I know you're marveled at these awe-inspiring Prophesies made by the Prophet Muhammad (SAW). The Prophesy that al-Hasan (RA) would make peace between two large Muslims, the Prophesy that Aisha (RA) would rebel against Ali (RA) which happened in the battle of Siffin, the Prophesy that the khawaarij will appear, he mentioned their physical appearance, etc. I can go on for too long. You have the internet to do your research.

Edit: You can not possibly "predict" these events.

Awe inspiring not really mate had to go through all that khuraafad and fabrication gave me a right good laugh loool

 

[Hafez]

Muslims smh practing cognitive dissonance and bias confirmation for the longest, check this vid out this muslim guy confirming every thing about evolution, and then back tracks on one thing that is the human evolution niin yahoow dadkaan wa Cajiib

We only accept scientific facts sxb... Like Tidal acceleration, it's not something new.

"In 1749 Richard Dunthorne confirmed Halley's suspicion after re-examining ancient records, and produced the first quantitative estimate for the size of this apparent effect:[2] a centurial rate of +10″ (arcseconds) in lunar longitude, which is a surprisingly accurate result for its time, not differing greatly from values assessed later, e.g. in 1786 by de Lalande,[3] and to compare with values from about 10″ to nearly 13″ being derived about a century later"

 

[Hafez]

Please do yourself a favor and stop talking before you cause more innocent Muslims to leave the deen



I honestly am starting to believe you're a sophisticated atheist troll

You cannot point out the mistakes in my posts, if you ain't contributing gtfo sxb. It's really that simple. Smells like victory to me...

 

[Bahal]

You literally said there's no evidence for a heliocentric model of the solar system



You literally unironically tried to justify a 950 year lifespan by talking about the formation of the Moon, an event that happened literally 4 billion years ago

 

[Racer]

Please do yourself a favor and stop talking before you cause more innocent Muslims to leave the deen



I honestly am starting to believe you're a sophisticated atheist troll

He is laying it on thick with his copy and paste and his shitty pseudo intellect prophecy my foot.

 

[Hafez]

You literally said there's no evidence for a heliocentric model of the solar system



You literally unironically tried to justify a 950 year lifespan by talking about the formation of the Moon, an event that happened literally 4 billion years ago

It didn't "happen" 4 billion years ago you nacas... It's happening as we speak. Why embarrass yourself like this though? Maybe there's evidence for a heliocentric model of the solar system but I've not come across it (yet). I'll need to research this further. Nonetheless, it's not contradictory to Islam.

 

[CrossEdge]

I want to be born as a Jew in my next life get an Israeli citizenship and live a comfy life in Tel aviv

 

[Bahal]

It didn't "happen" 4 billion years ago you nacas... It's happening as we speak. Why embarrass yourself like this though? Maybe there's evidence for a heliocentric model of the solar system but I've not come across it (yet). I'll need to research this further. Nonetheless, it's not contradictory to Islam.

HE NEEDS TO RESEARCH IT FURTHER