World Bank education project released to the FGS.

[bidenkulaha]

this was the mushaariic that was paused when FGS wanted to renegotiate it from previous education agreements where South Somalia-Puntland-SL shared 33%.

 

[bidenkulaha]

3 options

• World Bank changed their policy on FGS-FMS agreement. Potentially leaving the usual stipulation agreements need unanimous consent. There recently was a conference where agreement was made on revenue and donor projects where all the FMS and Banadir shared them equally. This didn’t include PL. minister of finance said they’d soon release donor funds despite this.

• FGS went back to the old agreement

• PL compromised.

 

[bidenkulaha]

Education Minister Farah Abdulkadir first cousin Miski Ibrahim will be leading this project lol. Good luck to her!

 

[bidenkulaha]

Now former Finance Minister Elmi Nur talks about the larger education world bank project in the pipeline. Says it’s worth $200 million.

This is the project that needed agreement between FGS and PL and was on hold since February after PL cut ties and disagreed with FGS planned split (moving from SL-PL-S.Somalia to PL-GM-HS-KG-JL-Banadir similar to the new electricity project). Interesting

 

[bidenkulaha]

Now former Finance Minister Elmi Nur talks about the larger education world bank project in the pipeline. Says it’s worth $200 million.

This is the project that needed agreement between FGS and PL and was on hold since February after PL cut ties and disagreed with FGS planned split (moving from SL-PL-S.Somalia to PL-GM-HS-KG-JL-Banadir similar to the new electricity project). Interesting

Total of 2 billion in World Bank projects. With $700mn in new projects set to be released soon.

 

[Gaandheri]

Total of 2 billion in World Bank projects. With $700mn in new projects set to be released soon.

You got the map for this I gotta see how much each region is getting and what are these projects for?

 

[bidenkulaha]

You got the map for this I gotta see how much each region is getting and what are these projects for?

this is the first mention of the new projects, doubt they’ll be uploaded on world bank Somalia site. I’m just quoting him from the speech

 

[Gaandheri]

this is the first mention of the new projects, doubt they’ll be uploaded on world bank Somalia site. I’m just quoting him from the speech

I have heard most of it is infrastructure, roads, hospitals/clinics, electricity, farming, dams and energy. Is it this this is 2 billion dollars worth of projects. https://maps.worldbank.org/projects/wb/country/SO/Somalia?status=active

 

[bidenkulaha]

I have heard most of it is infrastructure, roads, hospitals/clinics, electricity, farming, dams and energy. Is it this this is 2 billion dollars worth of projects. https://maps.worldbank.org/projects/wb/country/SO/Somalia?status=active

Doesn’t include the $200 million Education project he mentions in this speech but Yh those are the current projects running

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Now former Finance Minister Elmi Nur talks about the larger education world bank project in the pipeline. Says it’s worth $200 million.

This is the project that needed agreement between FGS and PL and was on hold since February after PL cut ties and disagreed with FGS planned split (moving from SL-PL-S.Somalia to PL-GM-HS-KG-JL-Banadir similar to the new electricity project). Interesting

Does the FGS want to give all FMS the same amount of money, and will KG receive the same amount of aid as SL? Or is the FGS insisting on giving SL 1/3 of the aid?

 

[bidenkulaha]

Does the FGS want to give all FMS the same amount of money, and will KG receive the same amount of aid as SL? Or is the FGS insisting on giving SL 1/3 of the aid?

FGS has asked WB to deal with Somaliland directly

 

[FAST_LANE]

FGS has asked WB to deal with Somaliland directly

Lol do beggars really have a choice? BTW, Dual track policy is long gone. If you are telling me Dual-track policy is back then Masha Allah

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

FGS has asked WB to deal with Somaliland directly

I know that. I am asking about how much they are getting vis a vis other FMS. Does the FGS allocate more money to SL than it does to PL or KGS? Is there any truth to the claim that SL receives 1/3 of everything?

 

[bidenkulaha]

I know that. I am asking about how much they are getting vis a vis other FMS. Does the FGS allocate more money to SL than it does to PL or KGS? Is there any truth to the claim that SL receives 1/3 of everything?

The world bank’s old split was PL-SL-South Somalia so yes.

FGS just wants to cut SL out of Somalia world bank projects (world bank if they want can then do their own thing with them) and then split between the current FMS.

Regardless I don’t have an answer to your question on the new splits. All we know is PL was against FGS plans for world bank and seems like there’s been some behind closed doors talks/movement there. I’d like to know more

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

The world bank’s old split was PL-SL-South Somalia so yes.

FGS just wants to cut SL out of Somalia world bank projects (world bank if they want can then do their own thing with them) and then split between the current FMS.

Regardless I don’t have an answer to your question on the new splits. All we know is PL was against FGS plans for world bank and seems like there’s been some behind closed doors talks/movement there. I’d like to know more

I understand the FGS not wanting to block aid to SL, but why would they not want to have a role, even if it is ceremonial or procedural? That is a bad idea from the standpoint of asserting the FGS' sovereignty. Very stupid, no country in the world would accept that.

So the FGS wants to reduce the amount of aid Puntland receive by pooling South Central & PL aid and then divide it between the FMS and Banadir? That is a bad deal for Puntland if the pool does not include SL. Why should PL take a cut while SL continues to receive 1/3? Especially now that SL has lost almost all SSC territory?

SL should be treated as an FMS, why should it get more money than KGS?

 

[bidenkulaha]

I understand the FGS not wanting to block aid to SL, but why would they not want to have a role, even if it is ceremonial or procedural? That is a bad idea from the standpoint of asserting the FGS' sovereignty. Very stupid, no country in the world would accept that.

So the FGS wants to reduce the amount of aid Puntland receive by pooling South Central & PL aid and then divide it between the FMS and Banadir? That is a bad deal for Puntland if the pool does not include SL. Why should PL take a cut while SL continues to receive 1/3? Especially now that SL has lost almost all SSC territory?

SL should be treated as an FMS, why should it get more money than KGS?

Part of the FGS job is to plan the projects with FMS and World Bank. They have no cooperation with SL so it seems to be time consuming and provides no benefit to FGS (outside of sovereignty point you make). We don’t know if SL gets a bigger share from that arrangement or not. I personally think they lose out as World Bank will prefer working with FGS and thereby the FMS’s it can cooperate with.

Also yes PL does lose out on that proposal hence the whole cutting ties and new World Bank proposals being frozen.

 

[Hilmaam]

Release it asap