Without the european exploration

[Baliska]

It was also the absence of Qabilism.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Wrong.

The scientific revolution around 1500-1600 with Francis Bacon / Newton starting it was what made them win.

The discovery of the Americas only accelerated the winning, but the winning was guaranteed with the scientific revolution and subsequent industrial revolution.

I agree with you that the Scientific revolution gave Europe a huge leg up, but you cannot ignore how wealth from the Americas and Asia fueled much of the economic growth necessary for the funding of scientific production. Europe's standard of living was on the Malthusian edge just like China and Japan, having sources of capital outside of the continent gave Europe an early leg up. Economic development in Europe would have happened anyway, but it would have been much more slowly.
The adoption of potatoes from the Americas, for example, really furthered the Malthusian limit for Northern Europe.

 

[Crow]

Any nation in history which was wealthy had some advancement in science,but their was no nation more wealthy than europe after the exploration,they had the luxury of having knowlegde from china to west asia,and by pure luck found the americas which they found the wealth to help to fund their scientific advancement

If Abu Bakr II's fleet discovered the Americas first, we would all be speaking the tongue of the Mali Empire right now. We would have converted all those calicali pagans to Islam.

 

[esmailxxx]

If Abu Bakr II's fleet discovered the Americas first, we would all be speaking the tongue of the Mali Empire right now. We would have converted all those calicali pagans to Islam.

probably not sxb,most of his story s made up,what an adventurer thou

 

[munira]

probably not sxb,most of his story s made up,what an adventurer thou

If Abu Bakr II's fleet discovered the Americas first, we would all be speaking the tongue of the Mali Empire right now. We would have converted all those calicali pagans to Islam.

There are historians who have researched into this and come to the conclusion they went to America. Go read books by Van Sertima.
There’s a lot of evidence to suggest they did.

 

[Crow]

There are historians who have researched into this and come to the conclusion they went to America. Go read books by Van Sertima.
There’s a lot of evidence to suggest they did.

It's afrocentric fiction.

Abu Bakr II is the only African known to even attempt to cross the Atlantic and his entire fleet is sitting at the bottom of the ocean right now, still undiscovered to this day.

It's said to contain a massive amount of gold and treasure so whoever finds it will be rich.

 

[munira]

It's afrocentric fiction.

Abu Bakr II is the only African known to even attempt to cross the Atlantic and his entire fleet is sitting at the bottom of the ocean right now, still undiscovered to this day.

It's said to contain a massive amount of gold and treasure so whoever finds it will be rich.

First of all, Abu Bakr II was not the first African to attempt it. There were many people from West Africa who sailed away to find a mythical ‘far away land’ but never returned. Their failure to return plus Malian storytales about this land is what mainly inspired Abu Bakr to abdicate and explore.

However, it was only Abu Bakr and his large fleet that made it to the new world. when Columbus went there, they discovered canoes which resembled those made in west Africa. Also the spears they found on the Haitian/Dominican island were made in West Africa indicating some type of interaction between the two.


Anyways, why does anything that portrays Africans to be advanced classed as fiction. Once upon a time Africa was the most developed continent