Will the Islamic Horn/Somalis ever see another great leader?

[Khaem]

Has our civilization and culture degraded so much?

Mogadishu used to be the pinnacle of culture in its part of the peninsular but that shit is bombed out, everyone constantly killing each other over qabill.

Zelia was a rich and ancient city from 2,000 years ago and is the Axum of the Somali peninsula, now nothing but a dusty tuulo.

Harar has been overrun by infidels. The walls built to keep our oromo has been opened and they flooded the city. Gaal Habash have done the same.

And everything between has gone to shit as well.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Its bound to happen.

So many people aspiring with great ideals atleast one of them will change the world.

 

[Khaem]

Its bound to happen.

So many people aspiring with great ideals atleast one of them will change the world.

Inshallah we find one. If we keep up this bs in the 21st century as we have done since the 1600s we literally will not exist anymore. Hararis already got packed. Afars have no power. Oromo are too pagan and Oromumma for anyone to trust them. Somalis are the last hope for the Islamic Horn. If we do not fix ourselves then it's over.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

HSM just took israeli dick up the ass and abstained to vote. maybe in your wildest fantasies in the akhira sxb

 

[Emir of Zayla]

HSM just took israeli dick up the ass and abstained to vote. maybe in your wildest fantasies in the akhira sxb

Palestine/Israel nonsense isn’t any of our business.

 

[Lahaine]

It might actually be over for us

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Has our civilization and culture degraded so much?

Mogadishu used to be the pinnacle of culture in its part of the peninsular but that shit is bombed out, everyone constantly killing each other over qabill.

Zelia was a rich and ancient city from 2,000 years ago and is the Axum of the Somali peninsula, now nothing but a dusty tuulo.

Harar has been overrun by infidels. The walls built to keep our oromo has been opened and they flooded the city. Gaal Habash have done the same.

And everything between has gone to shit as well.

Time to welcome nationalism and bright minded secular leaders who are for a united Somaliweyn.

 

[HabarSteven12]

I highly doubt we will see that anytime soon. Until the Somali community holds the preparators of the civil war accountable for their heinous actions and grants justice to the indigenous communities who lost all their properties and farms during the civil war, Somalia will never experience peace and prosperity. Look at the amount of injustices that runs rampant in Somalia.

There is no accountability or justice for human rights violations. How can we be critical of Israeli occupation of Palestinian land when we have displaced and kicked out the indigenous communities from their own land? The people who carry the primary responsibility for the agony and suffering of the Somali community need to be held accountable. Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves.

 

[Khaem]

I highly doubt we will see that anytime soon. Until the Somali community holds the preparators of the civil war accountable for their heinous actions and grants justice to the indigenous communities who lost all their properties and farms during the civil war, Somalia will never experience peace and prosperity. Look at the amount of injustices that runs rampant in Somalia.

There is no accountability or justice for human rights violations. How can we be critical of Israeli occupation of Palestinian land when we have displaced and kicked out the indigenous communities from their own land? The people who carry the primary responsibility for the agony and suffering of the Somali community need to be held accountable. Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves.

I half agree.
Wdym indigenous? Somalis are the only indigenous community in the south.
Bantus are slaves from tanzania. Benadiri are just Somalis mixed with Indian, arab, Persian merchants who intermarried with locals in coastal cities.

All are of too small a population to mean anything for the future of the nation and horn as a whole.

 

[HabarSteven12]

What do you mean when you say Harar is overrun by Indidels? The majority of the residents in Harar are Muslims and Hararis were granted a regional state and autonomy. The ethnic tensions and hostilities that existed in the past are not currently present. People in Harar live side by side in peace and harmony. The people in our country are still killing each other over qabil.

Mogadishu was the pinnacle of Reer Benadiri culture. Zeila was a rich and ancient city. Somalis have abandoned the city since we gained independence in 1960. Zeila has a rich historical legacy dating back to the Aksumite kingdom all the way to the Adal sultante. It's sad to see that Somalis have ignored the opportunity to preserve Zeila and its archipelago.

 

[Khaem]

Every minute you use it to push your ajanabiwashing rhetoric.

Bro you gonna get the

 

[Khaem]

What do you mean when you say Harar is overrun by Indidels? The majority of the residents in Harar are Muslims and Hararis were granted a regional state and autonomy. The ethnic tensions and hostilities that existed in the past are not currently present. People in Harar live side by side in peace and harmony. The people in our country are still killing each other over qabil.

Mogadishu was the pinnacle of Reer Benadiri culture. Zeila was a rich and ancient city. Somalis have abandoned the city since we gained independence in 1960. Zeila has a rich historical legacy dating back to the Aksumite kingdom all the way to the Adal sultante. It's sad to see that Somalis have ignored the opportunity to preserve Zeila and its archipelago.

Look at who runs harar. Oromos.

Mogadishu wasn't just benadir broski. They did alot but their population wasn't that big.

Zelia is a gold mine of archeology. Why somalis decided to abandon it for cities like Djibouti and Hargesia I don't know. Perhaps lack of proper governance compared to the other two cities?

 

[Emir of Zayla]

What do you mean when you say Harar is overrun by Indidels? The majority of the residents in Harar are Muslims and Hararis were granted a regional state and autonomy. The ethnic tensions and hostilities that existed in the past are not currently present. People in Harar live side by side in peace and harmony. The people in our country are still killing each other over qabil.

Harar is literally an ethnic battleground. Idk what your talking about

Mogadishu was the pinnacle of Reer Benadiri culture.

You never stop with your illogical historical revisionism. You’ve gotten debunked countless times

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Bro you gonna get the

Aight let me cool it.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Zelia is a gold mine of archeology. Why somalis decided to abandon it for cities like Djibouti and Hargesia I don't know. Perhaps lack of proper governance compared to the other two cities?

Wdym? People still live in Zeila, it’s just a mostly forgotten port but that doesn’t mean it can’t be revived. The reason why people moved to Djibouti/Hargeysa is because they were more urbanized compared to Zeila.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Mogadishu was the pinnacle of Reer Benadiri culture.

Let me say it in a language you sand monkey can understand

 

[HabarSteven12]

Look at who runs harar. Oromos.

Mogadishu wasn't just benadir broski. They did alot but their population wasn't that big.

Zelia is a gold mine of archeology. Why somalis decided to abandon it for cities like Djibouti and Hargesia I don't know. Perhaps lack of proper governance compared to the other two cities?

Zeila is located in a very strategic position. We have strategic islands just across the city. The new capital of Somalia should be Zeila. Zeila has a greater historical significance compared to other cities in Somalia. Islam first arrived in Zeila in the Somali peninsula. Masjid qablatin was the first masjid built in Somalia. We need to preserve those historical sites. Somalia can profit a lot from tourism if they invest in and preserve historical sites in Zeila. Many superpowers have their eyes on Zeila.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

no and if by some miracle it happens he/she must first focus on wiping out every clan royal family innocent or not then relocating entire somali groups across the nation breaking their ties permanently this is one of the ways of ensuring a permanent solution.

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[Emir of Zayla]

no and if by some miracle it happens he/she must first focus on wiping out every clan royal family innocent or not then relocating entire somali groups across the nation breaking their ties permanently this is one of the ways of ensuring a permanent solution.

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There’s no need to go that far. Just have a regime where you have like minded loyal allies from every qabil working towards a common united goal. Keep this going for a few decades and filter out any influence qabil has on the politics, society, and the younger generations, and you’ll no longer be having this problem. Qabil would only be used as a way to know your lineage/family history by then.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

There’s no need to go that far. Just have a regime where you have like minded loyal allies from every qabil working towards a common united goal. Keep this going for a few decades and filter out any influence qabil has on the politics, society, and the younger generations, and you’ll no longer be having this problem. Qabil would only be used as a way to know your lineage/family history by then.

qabiil is never the problem sxb but somalis are not a highly intelligent race to begin with due to their underlying prideful nature that blinds them to reality. With great humility are great nations built with great familial pride and names are great nations destroyed