Why Puntland is a wolf in sheep's clothing

[GBTarmy]

nice joke mr autocrat

who is going to tell him Somalia's constitution disagrees with his claim lol

 

[Gambar]

Puntland has never hid its intentions to protect itself in the case of a disaster. Why would we not have a clause that protects us?

You didn't invent independence, you did not invent anything, so instead of worrying about Puntland, worry about why your triangle state is imploding and the habars are rif riffing each other in the mountains?

Running out of qamadi?

 

[Wiil_Facaye]

They wanna separate from Somalia but they can’t because their land is useless desert dhagaxo

 

[Libaaxseendheer]

They wanna separate from Somalia but they can’t because their land is useless desert dhagaxo

That desert is the port lifeline of cabudwak and dhusomareb

 

[FBIsomalia]

Let us take a look at the Constitution of Puntland and you realize why Puntland is a bigger threat to the unity of Somalia than even the self declared Republic Somaliland or foreign entities like Ethiopia and Kenya.

http://puntlandvoice.com/akhriso-dastuurka-cusub-ee-dowlada-puntland/

Article 1 section 1-4


Nothing special in the first two section of the article one. The first one says that Puntland is part of Somalia and has a duty to help Somalia to implement a federal system. In the second section it says that Puntland will go into negotiations with the federal gov to decide the new power sharing system. Till here it sounds still reasonable. How ever let us take a look at the third and fourth section of the first article.

The third section is very problematic and shows the true Colors of this clan enclave region. It says until Somalia gets a national one man one vote constitutional election, Puntland will operate like an independent country. Who gave them the right to decide this ? This is the first step of separatism and shows you that PL has no intentions to be part of Somalia. Where is actually the difference to Somaliland, despite them claiming with their tongue that they support a Federal Somalia ? They want to operate like an independent country, but still compete to be the president of the FGS ? A soon as one of them becomes President or PM they would immediately change. I think the main reason they hate N&N is that the IC recognizes only them as the sovereign entity of the country, hence PL always cut ties with the FGS or even called for "Confederalism" recently.

The fourth section is even worse. It literally says if Somalia does NOT implement a federal system OR Somalia stays unstable - In either of the two cases Puntland has the right to rethink all of the above mentioned sections, which includes that Puntland is part of Somalia. Yes you are reading right guys, they actually have a secession clause, if Somalia for example wants another system than the federal one.

Article 5 section 1



The first section of the fifth article is again a good representation for what Puntland is. Their claimed borders are not problematic in Bari and Nugaal, since this two regions are mainly inhabited by one clan, due to the lack of resources. It becomes problematic when they want to split 4 of the 18 regions that Somalia used to be pre civil war. They claim that every district that has a few Harti is part of their region. This includes Togdheer, Sool, Sanaag and Mudug. This is NOT federalism, but tribalism and won't work, because every of the 18 regions, except for Bari and Nugaal is shared between many tribes. We the outcome of this system in the south, especially in the south.

I could go on and on with the "constitution" of Puntland but let us finish with one funny article.

Article 4 section 1-2



"The people of Puntland have the nationality of Puntland". No comment from me, because section two is even funnier. "The citizenship of Puntland will protected by a special law and there will we a special law that will decide how one can get or revoked his PL citizenship." Wallahi you can't make this shit up.

It is funny how Puntlanders ... sorry i meant "Puntites" (Don't forget they have a nationality) use terms like secessionists when they are the biggest pseudo secessionists out there. Why can't they just choose a side and then stay there ?

@Fiidmeer @Factz @Gucci mane @Mckenzie @kickz @DRACO @Lex Luther @merka @Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Crow

What do you think guys, can Puntites and Somalis have good relations in the future ?

By the way this was the thing kept Somaliland eternal part of Somalia. It mean that if xamar think to play smart on us for favoring Jeegaan and give them Ictraaf. PL will do so. This part is notice for rear xamar in going talks with Jeegaan.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Basically if we’re not in a position of power or we don’t get things our way, we want nothing to do with Xamar.

The difference between us is our mentality.

Your retarded versions of Jews, you have the treachery part down but not the sophistication and cunning to get things done. It has resulted in complete failure in all your projects to date. You’ll always be in a limbo state because your people are stubborn and persistent at implementing the wrong ideas. It was no wonder why the British out maneuvered your lands in just 2 days.

As for us, I’m tryin to not be bias, but we are delusional beyond all doubt. We come from almost unhabitable deserts to try and give orders to people down south. Very arrogant in thinking that we’re center and rightful rulers of all Somali territory. We’ll also backstab and and only show solidarity to our other darrod cousins if we benefit from it. No one in Somalia including other darrods truly likes us. If all clans lived in one village, and something happened, everybody would blame us.

Wariya what hell are you talking about?

 

[FBIsomalia]

@Bohol How is that clever by any means ? It is 2019 and their parlamient a few month ago complained about their dependency from the Bebera port ? Or their politicans calling for a more radical version of federalism recently ? It was clever for their politicans to eat the few resources and what came from xamar the last 20 years, but PL as a whole is a shithole none different than the rest of Somalia and Somaliland, despite playing a major role in xamar. Politcally the Neo - centralist movement of Farmaajo has outsmarted them and most people of the south tend to prefer centralism, because when they hear federalism the qabilist version of PL comes into their mind and economically PL has nothing to show for. The myths of being political save is already dead.

My friend if you are type of guys qabilist and blind please stop discussing.

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

Wariya what hell are you talking about?

Just some shxt I noticed from Somalis.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Just some shxt I noticed from Somalis.

If you mean us as MJ you are totally wrong. But this is your opinion as non MJ.

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

If you mean us as MJ you are totally wrong. But this is your opinion as non MJ.

I'm omar mohamud. My family is from Mudug. Some of which who were Ministers in Puntland. My cousin is also the ambassador to America in FGS government.

 

[FBIsomalia]

I'm omar mohamud. My family is from Mudug. Some of which who were Ministers in Puntland. My cousin is also the ambassador to America in FGS government.

So what you mean noticed on some Somalis if you are MJ ?

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

So what you mean noticed on some Somalis if you are MJ ?

I was also talking about isaaqs. Thats why i said somalis. It included both, not just Mjs. Its just a theory. Nothing more.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Abdullahi Yusuf was the horse carrying Meles Zenawi's deferalism into Somalia. The people of Puntland need to be honest with themselves and implement proper form of government rather thna just lying an milking for their own benefit

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

Abdullahi Yusuf was the horse carrying Meles Zenawi's deferalism into Somalia. The people of Puntland need to be honest with themselves and implement proper form of government rather thna just lying an milking for their own benefit

This is an issue between Somalis, no one asked for the opinion of an Ethopian. Your country is close to fall into a long civil war son, be prepared

 

[Teflon]

Why do some puntlanders want to stay a part of somalia. the weak government is already against puntland idea of federalism. if puntland becomes a country they would have potential in the oil and fishing industry.

 

[Teflon]

somaliland already knows there is no benefit in staying with somalia. if centralism returns to somalia, the north is gonna be neglected again and somalia will spend its money on the south and mogadishu.

 

[shum33]

somaliland already knows there is no benefit in staying with somalia. if centralism returns to somalia, the north is gonna be neglected again and somalia will spend its money on the south and mogadishu.

we don't even need somalia,all we need is recognition then the world will open up to us,mogadishu can not govern the north, somalia is too broken and large

 

[madaxweyne]

we don't even need somalia,all we need is recognition then the world will open up to us,mogadishu can not govern the north, somalia is too broken and large

your gonna need somalia to recoqnise you which will not happen, i guess the massacres against ogaden refugees and rer awdal gadabursi is catching up to rer ictiraaf like karma

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

This is an issue between Somalis, no one asked for the opinion of an Ethopian. Your country is close to fall into a long civil war son, be prepared

truth hurts?

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

your gonna need somalia to recoqnise you which will not happen, i guess the massacres against ogaden refugees and rer awdal gadabursi is catching up to rer ictiraaf like karma

Why would there be a need for recognition from Muqdisho? As long as they get recognition from the UN and/or other countries Somalia's view on Sland doesn't matter. lol