Why I left ash-Shabaab -Defector Ibrahim Natharah- Thread exposing the crimes of the Khawarij

[Burqad]

https://x.com/ash_Shahdee/status/1979610717524529626

AS: - Contradict their own public stated aims (i.e. abiding by shari'ah, sanctifying Muslim blood etc). - Go against the instructions of Atiyyatullah re. tatarrus (human shielding) & instead trivialize Muslim blood

-Have a cult mentality, which is not based on Islamic wala' & bara', they view themselves as jama'atul Muslimin (main body of Muslims) & based on that kill those who oppose/criticize them.

- Are hasty in takfir, without considering conditions & preventatives

If these actions were carried out by IS we would see AQ (and their fans) up in arms about this, but because they are carried out by their official branch they're lauded instead & their actions blessed. Hypocrisy & double standards. "...or have you immunity in the scripture?

 

[Burqad]

If you were to ask a Shabab member about the ruling re. the person on the right who’s meeting with the Somali foreign minister at an event hosted by Erdogan, he’ll answer: Apostate! Tell him it’s the foreign minister of the IEA, he’ll start scratching his head in confusion

>Turkey aids the Somali govt

>Somali (and Turkish) govt takfired by AS

>AS bay’ah to AQ & IEA

>IEA minister poses with Somali minister at event hosted by Turkey…

Makes absolute sense.

and if there was 10 civilians near that Somali minister that’s kill every last one for the chance to kill him

This is one of the reasons why AS doesnt allow foot soldiers & the public access to internet.

 

[Burqad]

https://x.com/ash_Shahdee/status/1967223945595326746

Zubayr al-Muhajir on the subject of Shabaab's secret prisons. Abduction, torture, forced confessions and executions, without being even presented in front of a shari'ah court.

 

[_Yusuf_]

If you were to ask a Shabab member about the ruling re. the person on the right who’s meeting with the Somali foreign minister at an event hosted by Erdogan, he’ll answer: Apostate! Tell him it’s the foreign minister of the IEA, he’ll start scratching his head in confusion

>Turkey aids the Somali govt

>Somali (and Turkish) govt takfired by AS

>AS bay’ah to AQ & IEA

>IEA minister poses with Somali minister at event hosted by Turkey…

Makes absolute sense.

and if there was 10 civilians near that Somali minister that’s kill every last one for the chance to kill him

This is one of the reasons why AS doesnt allow foot soldiers & the public access to internet.

Ngl the Arab next to the somali guy looks evil.

 

[Burqad]

Ngl the Arab next to the somali guy looks evil.

That’s an afghan. Do you not know what the IEA is? And don’t say people look evil

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

https://x.com/ash_Shahdee/status/1979610717524529626

AS: - Contradict their own public stated aims (i.e. abiding by shari'ah, sanctifying Muslim blood etc). - Go against the instructions of Atiyyatullah re. tatarrus (human shielding) & instead trivialize Muslim blood

-Have a cult mentality, which is not based on Islamic wala' & bara', they view themselves as jama'atul Muslimin (main body of Muslims) & based on that kill those who oppose/criticize them.

- Are hasty in takfir, without considering conditions & preventatives

If these actions were carried out by IS we would see AQ (and their fans) up in arms about this, but because they are carried out by their official branch they're lauded instead & their actions blessed. Hypocrisy & double standards. "...or have you immunity in the scripture?

Tbf, it doesn't help all their oppositions defects to the FGS.

 

[moosaid]

The Taliban and Al Qaeda are not the same but they are allied.

 

[Burqad]

Tbf, it doesn't help all their oppositions defects to the FGS.

They destroy bully or expel all of their opposition so that it becomes a 1-1 fight between them and the FGS. A split in AS would probably be the best thing for the country but we are unlikely to see that because of it.

 

[Burqad]

The Taliban and Al Qaeda are not the same but they are allied.

In the same way that trad-caths and evangelicals are allied in America despite viewing each other as heathens

 

[reer]

They destroy bully or expel all of their opposition so that it becomes a 1-1 fight between them and the FGS. A split in AS would probably be the best thing for the country but we are unlikely to see that because of it.

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[Ultra Opinionated]

Everything AQ accuses IS of doing, their own branch in Somalia does.

 

[Burqad]

Everything AQ accuses IS of doing, their own branch in Somalia does.

Outside of the massacre of the Albu Nimr tribe IS usually focused its crimes outwards on Kurds and Shia’s, the majority of AS’s victims are Somali Muslims

 

[Ultra Opinionated]

Outside of the massacre of the Albu Nimr tribe IS usually focused its crimes outwards on Kurds and Shia’s, the majority of AS’s victims are Somali Muslims

Specifically apostates groups like the PKK and the KRG, their field commander for Afrin was a Kurd

 

[El Nino]

The man did a long 4 part interview with the guy who runs the Haanoolato youtube channel, here is a small clip.


The ruthlessness of AS is unmatched in the somali peninsula, no other organisation can match them. FGS just needs to be the more lucrative partner then AS regarding clans living under them and actually be able to guarantee their safety. Easier said then done however….

 

[Guure⁸]

Everything AQ accuses IS of doing, their own branch in Somalia does.

AQ struggles with controlling AS even obl advised them multiple times but they never listened

 

[Guure⁸]

Specifically apostates groups like the PKK and the KRG, their field commander for Afrin was a Kurd

Yeah and the yazidis

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

AQ struggles with controlling AS even obl advised them multiple times but they never listened

International to national Jihadist cycle:

-international fighters build up fighters in one country

-they get victories

-they immediately declare themselves to be a national movement the moment they get land

-find new national jihadists to build up

-cycle repeats


examples: Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, and Palestine. (they typically let the last one slide for obvious reasons).

 

[Ultra Opinionated]

International to national Jihadist cycle:

-international fighters build up fighters in one country

-they get victories

-they immediately declare themselves to be a national movement the moment they get land

-find new national jihadists to build up

-cycle repeats


examples: Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, and Palestine. (they typically let the last one slide for obvious reasons).

Syria was a bunch of larpers who just wanted power. Which is why they dropped the “Islamist” garb once it was no longer needed.
Verdict still out on AS, but they do want to do an insurgency in Kenya(already in progress), and likely Ogaden.
For Afghanistan, I don’t endorse the Taliban but they still support cross border attacks: (TTP, Jeish-e-Muhammad, Ansar al-Furqan).

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

Syria was a bunch of larpers who just wanted power. Which is why they dropped the “Islamist” garb once it was no longer needed.
Verdict still out on AS, but they do want to do an insurgency in Kenya(already in progress), and likely Ogaden.
For Afghanistan, I don’t endorse the Taliban but they still support cross border attacks: (TTP, Jeish-e-Muhammad, Ansar al-Furqan).

They do not actually do insurgency in Kenya, they just do cross border raids (mostly in the Wak direction and the road to Kismaayo). If they actually wanted the Frontier they would have tried to snag border towns in Mandera (most probable targets as they actually have territory oppose of Mandera county).

As for Galbeed? They never did anything there and on my life they are only in the Bale mts for intel reasons and to suddenly attack Liben the minute Galbeed ever gets into a insurgency, which woukd force Ethiopia to leave Somalia (much to AS’s delight)

 

[Ultra Opinionated]

They do not actually do insurgency in Kenya, they just do cross border raids (mostly in the Wak direction and the road to Kismaayo). If they actually wanted the Frontier they would have tried to snag border towns in Mandera (most probable targets as they actually have territory oppose of Mandera county).

As for Galbeed? They never did anything there and on my life they are only in the Bale mts for intel reasons and to suddenly attack Liben the minute Galbeed ever gets into a insurgency, which woukd force Ethiopia to leave Somalia (much to AS’s delight)

I did say there a progress there, not a full blown insurgency(though Kenya’s dense are far weaker than they claim).

For Ogaden, I said it was something they desire, but they would need to defeat the gov first.