Why do they slander Ham in the bible?

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My question is why do they label Ham the ancestor of the africans as a thief in the bible? according to the book of jasher he stole Nabi Nuh's garments (they label Nuh a drunk who slept naked astagfirallah) and he without anyone ever finding the holy and sacred garments that kept the animals from attacking mankind, gave them to his son Cush who later bequeathed it to his favourite son Nimrud. Not only is this false but it eludes to the fact that both the nabi and the entirety of mankind and the angels were too stupid to figure out who stole the garments. Especially since they claim Nimrud wore them when he went hunting and was made mighty before the animals by this divine item of clothing. Ironically they hail Esau the forefather of the white people a hero for somehow slaying the king and his men and making off with the garments (essentially robbing them) and later sold his birthright for some food.

This story does not make sense as the quran exalts nabi Nuh and his family and Allah himself claims he gave Nimrud the kingdom. Thereby exonerating him from the claim in the bible that accuses him and Ham of theft. Why are these Cadaan people so salty and jealous of the Nabi Nuh and his honoured family? although it is true that he was a wicked king. That does not mean he should be insulted along with his father who was also a Nabi.

What do you guys think? Quran 1- corrupted bible 0

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My question is why do they label Ham the ancestor of the africans as a thief in the bible? according to the book of jasher he stole Nabi Nuh's garments (they label Nuh a drunk who slept naked astagfirallah) and he without anyone ever finding the holy and sacred garments that kept the animals from attacking mankind, gave them to his son Cush who later bequeathed it to his favourite son Nimrud. Not only is this false but it eludes to the fact that both the nabi and the entirety of mankind and the angels were too stupid to figure out who stole the garments. Especially since they claim Nimrud wore them when he went hunting and was made mighty before the animals by this divine item of clothing. Ironically they hail Esau the forefather of the white people a hero for somehow slaying the king and his men and making off with the garments (essentially robbing them) and later sold his birthright for some food.

This story does not make sense as the quran exalts nabi Nuh and his family and Allah himself claims he gave Nimrud the kingdom. Thereby exonerating him from the claim in the bible that accuses him and Ham of theft. Why are these Cadaan people so salty and jealous of the Nabi Nuh and his honoured family? although it is true that he was a wicked king. That does not mean he should be insulted along with his father who was also a Nabi.

What do you guys think? Quran 1- corrupted bible 0

Exhibit A:

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In ISLAM we are encouraged to read the Bible but not to take it literally- take it with a grain of salt- unless it is confirmed by Quran.


Quran- by its form is -a brief compilation of all God's law, and religion in Mankind's history. Everything is compiled and briefed in its nature. If something confuses you in the bible- then go to Quran and find out if it is confirmed there.

The bible has a lot of redundant stories of prophets sinning. According to mufti Menk Ismael he said that Prophets DO NOT SIN- i kind of disagree, because Quran Confirms Musa pbuh killed a human by the intrigue of Satan.

Also- Prophet Yunis pbuh also sinned by abandoning his job or post if you will to preach Islam to his Ummah. (which incidentally by the mercy of Allaah swt and luck of Yonis ummah- since their prophet abandoned his job- they are offered mercy by the most merciful God Allaah swt- who protected them from punishement as it approached. Yonis pbuh ummah is the only ummah that became Muslim 100% by loophole! Allaahu akbaar! )


Prophet Yonis pbuh was frustrated and got cold feet- so he ran away. God punished him by throwing him in the sea and he was swallowed by the big fish. Prophet Yonis pbuh did cry to Allaah swt and who rescued him promptly. In Quran- Allaah swt explicitly said- Had he not been a slave who always prayed to Allaah swt-- he would have remained in the belly of the fish until Yomul Qiyama. This is explicitly mentioned in the Quran.

My take is- the bible detailed hyperbole is a little bit too much. It sounds like an oral history of generation without first hand knowledge. Sometimes they confused their kings with the prophets because they shared the same name!
 
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In ISLAM we are encouraged to read the Bible but not to take it literally- take it with a grain of salt- unless it is confirmed by Quran.


Quran- by its form is -a brief compilation of all Gods law in Mankinds history. Everything is compiled and briefed in its nature. If something confuses you in the bible- then go to Quran and find out if it is confirmed there.

The bible has a lot of redundant stories of prophets sinning. According to mufti Menk Ismael he said that Prophets DO NOT SIN- i kind of disagree, because Quran Confirms Musa pbuh killed a human by the intrigue of Satan.

Also- Prophet Yunis pbuh also sinned by abandoning his job or post if you will to preach Islam to his Ummah. He was frustrated and got cold feet- so he ran away. God punished him by throwing him in the sea and he was swallowed by the big fish. Prophet Yonis pbuh did cry to Allaah swt and who rescued him prompty. In Quran- Allaah swt explicitly said- Had he not been a slave who always prayed to Allaah swt-- he would have remained in the belly of the fish until Yomul Qiyama. This is explicitly mentioned in the Quran.

My take it- the bible detailed hyperbole is a little bit too much. It sounds like an oral history of generation without first hand knowledge.
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My question is why do they label Ham the ancestor of the africans as a thief in the bible? according to the book of jasher he stole Nabi Nuh's garments (they label Nuh a drunk who slept naked astagfirallah) and he without anyone ever finding the holy and sacred garments that kept the animals from attacking mankind, gave them to his son Cush who later bequeathed it to his favourite son Nimrud. Not only is this false but it eludes to the fact that both the nabi and the entirety of mankind and the angels were too stupid to figure out who stole the garments. Especially since they claim Nimrud wore them when he went hunting and was made mighty before the animals by this divine item of clothing. Ironically they hail Esau the forefather of the white people a hero for somehow slaying the king and his men and making off with the garments (essentially robbing them) and later sold his birthright for some food.

This story does not make sense as the quran exalts nabi Nuh and his family and Allah himself claims he gave Nimrud the kingdom. Thereby exonerating him from the claim in the bible that accuses him and Ham of theft. Why are these Cadaan people so salty and jealous of the Nabi Nuh and his honoured family? although it is true that he was a wicked king. That does not mean he should be insulted along with his father who was also a Nabi.

What do you guys think? Quran 1- corrupted bible 0

Exhibit A:

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You have the story the wrong way around, it was concocted by Bani Israel who are the Bantus of today, and they needed religious justification against their arch rivals cushites to go to war with them and argue they are cursed devinely.

But when the Assyrian and later on Romans were exposed to the same text, to them Ham were all blacks and they enslaved those very same people who forged those stories, using the curse of Ham as a pretext.

You will see other passages they concocted and there visceral hatred for cush, look at the passages when Moses married cushite woman how they reacted.

The rivalry in ancient times was always between cushites and reer bani Israel (Bantus) the hatred is historic.

The Assyrians evicted us both from ancient Egypt 3000bc, they fled west, we fled east to the horn.
 
You have the story the wrong way around, it was concocted by Bani Israel who are the Bantus of today, and they needed religious justification against their arch rivals cushites to go to war with them and argue they are cursed devinely.

But when the Assyrian and later on Romans were exposed to the same text, to them Ham were all blacks and they enslaved those very same people who forged those stories, using the curse of Ham as a pretext.

You will see other passages they concocted and there visceral hatred for cush, look at the passages when Moses married cushite woman how they reacted.

The rivalry in ancient times was always between cushites and reer bani Israel (Bantus) the hatred is historic.

The Assyrians evicted us both from ancient Egypt 3000bc, they fled west, we fled east to the horn.
Cushites ruled Ancient Egypt around 600BC, so how were they kicked out 3000 BC?
 

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