Why do Reer Hiiraan support this current government that has failed them in every way possible?

[Bowda-dheer]

@SPMLegend what was Ogaden political position like during Farmaajo, what were your cabinet positions? If I am not mistaken you guys were only given Minister of Transport and Aviation only and we all know how Oomar was.

Farmajo was so anti- Ogaden he fired every single OG holding a position including ambassadors from AY and sharif era and named none. Later we were demoted to wasarada shaqaalaha imagine the mifhty Ogaden of jubaland and bakool holding zero B wasarad.
During sharif we had minister of defense, during hassan sheikh and gaas we had finance minister.

 

[Prince of HS]

There is no such thing as Hawiye it is a scam.

We must look out for our interests which is clearly to dominate a federal state, and have access to Villa Somalia (preferably PM) in the upcoming elections. I know PL is gonna give hell to HSM especially with the way he’s been acting.

Your embarrassing yourself aim higher then PM. Even then just look at Hamza barre if you want to see how useless the post is

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

This is Somalia. Lol

@Kheyre you not doing the country a favor by wanting some uneducated illiterate geeljire from your tribe to be in the government and be part of the decision making of millions of Somalis. As you can see I don't care what tribe those in government are as long as they qualified and have the best interest of all Somalis at heart.

Yes it is Somalia and this all we got. Instead of thinking short term. How about you think long term? Imagine what we could do with a country? Somalia now has a small gdp of 5 billion. Imagine an industrialized Somalia with a gdp of 500 billion with only 20 million people.

We literally fighting over nothing. Let us postpone the tribal fight until we actually have something.

We have nothing. Your tribal land is barren and arid. So is mine. And 70% of the country is experiencing gaajo.

Can you not see what I am seeing? If we do not solve all the problems I mentioned we won't have a country not will we have a people. As simple as that.

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

@Kheyre

Give me your age and education. I want to know.

 

[Macawisley]

Your embarrassing yourself aim higher then PM. Even then just look at Hamza barre if you want to see how useless the post is

PM is just the starting point. Somalis are judgemental people they will not trust you with Presidency unless they have seen how you performed when you have had PM.

PM first then Presidency.

 

[Macawisley]

@Kheyre

Give me your age and education. I want to know.

Don’t worry my bro

 

[The Midlands]

I could care less about what he does in Hirshabelle.

speaking of Banadir do you think local council will be built and if so will the Mayor and Governor be 2 seperate positions instead of one like it is now?

they will be splitted. Mogadishu will have strong HG mayor this will boost HG OPPORTUNITIES in employment and Business..

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

Don’t worry my bro

30 and bus driver. Even if you have a highschool diploma you would be understand what I am saying.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

PM is just the starting point. Somalis are judgemental people they will not trust you with Presidency unless they have seen how you performed when you have had PM.

PM first then Presidency.

You’re right have you ever seen murusade talking about politics before kheyre? They were too busy recruiting people for shabab back then. Look at them now even running for president and finishing top 4 in the election. They managed to pull 60 mps for a presidential election. everyone starts somewhere.

 

[Macawisley]

Farmajo was so anti- Ogaden he fired every single OG holding a position including ambassadors from AY and sharif era and named none. Later we were demoted to wasarada shaqaalaha imagine the mifhty Ogaden of jubaland and bakool holding zero B wasarad.
During sharif we had minister of defense, during hassan sheikh and gaas we had finance minister.

Same here Farmaajo was very anti XL fired all our ambassadors etc and removed us from lots of positions.

Right now we are in that same position Ogaden was in during Farmaajo term in this new term of HSM where we have HSM half brother as our only minister which is the petroleum ministry

 

[The Midlands]

PM is just the starting point. Somalis are judgemental people they will not trust you with Presidency unless they have seen how you performed when you have had PM.

PM first then Presidency.

Daaroods are saying no more Hiraab PM we may have PM chance in the future.

closest Hawiye to compete Hasan Sheikh is Kheyre who was not known before 2017 and he did in the last elections.

 

[Prince of HS]

You’re right have you ever seen murusade talking about politics before kheyre? They were too busy recruiting people for shabab back then. Look at them now even running for president and finishing top 4 in the election. They managed to pull 60 mps for a presidential election. everyone starts somewhere.

You can’t compare mursade with XL. Mursade are third heavyweight in the capital. Farmaajo had a agenda against hiraab appointing kheyre. However theres literally no benefit or anything xl can bring to the table to appoint them as PM. This isn’t me hating it’s just reality on the ground. OG are like mursade in this sense. He’s building alliance with madoobe. I believe HSM was smart for appointing them as they have JL on lock.

 

[cow]

You can’t compare mursade with XL. Mursade are third heavyweight in the capital. Farmaajo had a agenda against hiraab appointing kheyre. However theres literally no benefit or anything xl can bring to the table to appoint them as PM. This isn’t me hating it’s just reality on the ground. OG are like mursade in this sense. He’s building alliance with madoobe. I believe HSM was smart for appointing them as they have JL on lock.

The reason why culusow appointed ogadeen is because they are weak. And so far muxruumka hamze has shown how weak ogadeen are.

MJ have puntland in lock but culusow is afraid to appoint them. MX is one the strongest clans in the south but culusow is afraid to appoint a mx.

Culusow is smart he picked a minority in somalia as his pm.

In lock kulaha the same madoobe who begged culusow for gedo. And is begging kenya to keep him in kismaayo.

On lock means being standalone like how MJ are in puntland and MX will be when kenya leaves.

 

[repo]

President or prime minister is only valuable for those with a functioning state that can rely on resources and support to maximize their power and influence otherwise it's a mayoral position.

All politics are local. You are totally wrong in thinking you can skip steps in state building. If you don't want to do the grunt work in Beledweyne, Ferfer, Mataban and Jalalaqsi, you should give up like HG in Galmudug, and push that HAG mumbo jumbo stuff in Mogadishu.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

You can’t compare mursade with XL. Mursade are third heavyweight in the capital. Farmaajo had a agenda against hiraab appointing kheyre. However theres literally no benefit or anything xl can bring to the table to appoint them as PM. This isn’t me hating it’s just reality on the ground. OG are like mursade in this sense. He’s building alliance with madoobe. I believe HSM was smart for appointing them as they have JL on lock.

Xawaadle is fd then unless they get hirshabele on lock which is impossible without having the capital. It’s hard to depend on the gentlemen’s agreement. Murusade having a big presence helped them and OG for having jubaland on lock. Makes sense , hawadle would need to have hirshabele capital for them to seriously challenge for a pm. Or maybe they can pull a marehan style and become the president if farmajo did it they can do it too.

 

[Prince of HS]

The reason why culusow appointed ogadeen is because they are weak. And so far muxruumka hamze has shown how weak ogadeen are.

MJ have puntland in lock but culusow is afraid to appoint them. MX is one the strongest clans in the south but culusow is afraid to appoint a mx.

Culusow is smart he picked a minority in somalia as his pm.

Sxb. Whenever a mx isn’t president I have no problem with them. If mx take over kismayo or not I don’t really mind or care. Only when you come to my xamar is when I have problem with you. MX should take advantage of HSM being president and now focus on kicking out shabaab in JL and forcing your way into power. Take farmaajo leaving the seat as a blessing. Again if you do or don’t it isn’t my business

 

[The Midlands]

You can’t compare mursade with XL. Mursade are third heavyweight in the capital. Farmaajo had a agenda against hiraab appointing kheyre. However theres literally no benefit or anything xl can bring to the table to appoint them as PM. This isn’t me hating it’s just reality on the ground. OG are like mursade in this sense. He’s building alliance with madoobe. I believe HSM was smart for appointing them as they have JL on lock.

Hawadle PM will have Hiiraan support with its 27 seats Murusade had no region to back Farmaajo even the Daljir ones like Hassan Macalin sticked with their base HG as a result his brother hussein macalin who is now the security advisor was fired just bc of his brother. they just have some Hawiye Dhaqan influece like Xaad this has splitted Hawiye dhaqan who were unted against Cabdullahi Yusuf.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

The reason why culusow appointed ogadeen is because they are weak. And so far muxruumka hamze has shown how weak ogadeen are.

MJ have puntland in lock but culusow is afraid to appoint them. MX is one the strongest clans in the south but culusow is afraid to appoint a mx.

Culusow is smart he picked a minority in somalia as his pm.

In lock kulaha the same madoobe who begged culusow for gedo. And is begging kenya to keep him in kismaayo.

On lock means being standalone like how MJ are in puntland and MX will be when kenya leaves.

Mj were an actual sultanate before colonials marehan was nobody and confined to northern gedo tip abused by a sub clan of cagdheer. The kacaan must’ve put you guys out of the misery. Let’s wait for the mighty ceyr boys to bring you out of your misery again.

 

[cow]

Mj were an actual sultanate before colonials marehan was nobody and confined to northern gedo tip abused by a sub clan of cagdheer. The kacaan must’ve put you guys out of the misery. Let’s wait for the mighty ceyr boys to bring you of your misery again.

Mx where in history books 600 years ago when mj was flinging shit to each other.

 

[cow]

Sxb. Whenever a mx isn’t president I have no problem with them. If mx take over kismayo or not I don’t really mind or care. Only when you come to my xamar is when I have problem with you. MX should take advantage of HSM being president and now focus on kicking out shabaab in JL and forcing your way into power. Take farmaajo leaving the seat as a blessing. Again if you do or don’t it isn’t my business

Pointing out that caaghdeers are begging culusow for gedo and begging kenya for kismaayo.

That is not on lock that is a minority being kept in kismaayo by foreign powers.