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Who Won The Civil War In Somalia?
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@Future Mogadishu cannot join or be a regional state, it's against federalism laws. The capital is always 'federal' sharing spot for all regions and the regions are separate and keep their own. Mogadishu will be a federal district or territory at best and it will be pimped out by all Somalis who will eat their equally in the good times while in the bad times we will leave them and go back to our own homelands.
The capital of a federal nation has to be distinct(maqaam ka duwan) regional loooooooool, their would be no capital waryaa if the whole nation is regional. Their would be no distinctness between a nation of regions where the federal government will be located. The federal govt location is what makes a capital and the federal government cannot operate in a city that is bandirland or hirshabelle looooooool or else it will be said it's a regional government. Where will the federal authority operate if hirshabelle/banadirland control mogadishu? war niyahow caqli yeelo nacas ba tahay sida @Dalalos_ibn_Adali .
If every region becomes their own region, where is the capital for these 'regions' going to be? I want to be region and capital is 'caqli hoto' a capital cannot be a region, it's quite well known federal rules
The capital of a federal nation has to be distinct(maqaam ka duwan) regional loooooooool, their would be no capital waryaa if the whole nation is regional. Their would be no distinctness between a nation of regions where the federal government will be located. The federal govt location is what makes a capital and the federal government cannot operate in a city that is bandirland or hirshabelle looooooool or else it will be said it's a regional government. Where will the federal authority operate if hirshabelle/banadirland control mogadishu? war niyahow caqli yeelo nacas ba tahay sida @Dalalos_ibn_Adali .
If every region becomes their own region, where is the capital for these 'regions' going to be? I want to be region and capital is 'caqli hoto' a capital cannot be a region, it's quite well known federal rules
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Capital = No regionalism, its where the federal govt operates. This city has to be distinct and separate from other regions because it hosts the federal government, this city is shared by all regions is the rule since it's the seat of the federal government. All it's resources must be shared with the regions. Infact this city requires the removal of hawiye when 'maqaam' gooni ah loo sameeyo and should be settled equally by all clans.
Region= An area outside the federal govt location and they report to their own regional governments. It's only obligated to contribute a federal tax for which the government in hamar has to share around to each region equally.
You can't mix the two and eat ya cake both ways, it's absolutely illegal. Caqli sac hoto try to mix the two because they are uneducated and don't know shit about government.
Region= An area outside the federal govt location and they report to their own regional governments. It's only obligated to contribute a federal tax for which the government in hamar has to share around to each region equally.
You can't mix the two and eat ya cake both ways, it's absolutely illegal. Caqli sac hoto try to mix the two because they are uneducated and don't know shit about government.
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Infact by the time we discuss resource sharing with the feds, I would argue PL isn't paying a penny to them untill the capital is designated 'federal status' and the city is settled 4.5. When that city starts to look federal, then I will levy a federal tax in PL. Till then PL shouldn't send a cent to the federal authority.
@InaShaqalle
The City of Ottawa is a single-tier municipality, meaning it is in itself a census division and has no county or regional municipality government above it.[183] As a single-tier municipality
You cant be region n federal govt in the same city u dumb f*ck, who has authority then? if u claiming a capital, it has to represent the nation not a damn region waryaa, you are dumb huto who will get eaten alive if u talked on tv like that.
Hamar has to be shared 4.5 settlement wise, all them scum who moved in 91 will be moved out so the city has a federal characteristic.
The City of Ottawa is a single-tier municipality, meaning it is in itself a census division and has no county or regional municipality government above it.[183] As a single-tier municipality
You cant be region n federal govt in the same city u dumb f*ck, who has authority then? if u claiming a capital, it has to represent the nation not a damn region waryaa, you are dumb huto who will get eaten alive if u talked on tv like that.
Hamar has to be shared 4.5 settlement wise, all them scum who moved in 91 will be moved out so the city has a federal characteristic.
If Bosaso became the new capital of Somalia, would you advocate Bosaso or even Bari region as a whole to leave PL?
I would make Mogadishu city a single municipality/district that's part of Middle Shabelle
I would make Mogadishu city a single municipality/district that's part of Middle Shabelle
If Bosaso became capital, I would have no choice but demand it's a federal district since the federal government is located there, it cannot be a region n federal at the same time.
I would only demand that Bosaso have a local government with Mayor duties only like every other federal city in the world.
The Federal government would be the superior government at all times in the city, I would also demand the city look 'federal' also. U can't eat your cake both ways. Federalism is very simple. Where-ever the federal govt is located cannot have regional characteristics since it represents the nation. If u want to be a regional government u also have to accept the loss of the federal government and therefore the capital. It's simple as that. No eating ya cake both ways
@InaShaqalle If u want to join hirshabelle u can by 'name' only, the city will always be capital of somalia not capital of hirshabelle.
Capital of Somalia means all 18 states have a stake in that city and that's a loss u will need to accept for hosting the capital. Stop trying to run away from your responsibilities u coward, u want all the glory of the federal govt but none of the responsibilities. Ur typicaal huto caqli dameer. Every god damn cent to every god damn position will be shared in hamar and it will be split between 18 states not between Hirshabelle loooooooool
Capital of Somalia means all 18 states have a stake in that city and that's a loss u will need to accept for hosting the capital. Stop trying to run away from your responsibilities u coward, u want all the glory of the federal govt but none of the responsibilities. Ur typicaal huto caqli dameer. Every god damn cent to every god damn position will be shared in hamar and it will be split between 18 states not between Hirshabelle loooooooool
@InaShaqalle the only right u have is to ask each region pays their federal taxes. But we also can counter that by saying we will only pay our federal taxes when the city is fully federal and taking on it's capital responsibility and not operating like a regional govt. Why shud u be the capital if u r just another region like PL/JL? what makes u distinct to be capital? the only thing that makes u distinct is you host the federal government and therefore u need to accept that responsibility.
Don't try to play that silly 30 year game of 'ill eat my cake both ways', ppl are not stupid in Somalia, u just going to lead to wasted years.
Don't try to play that silly 30 year game of 'ill eat my cake both ways', ppl are not stupid in Somalia, u just going to lead to wasted years.
@InaShaqalle if u don't want the responsibility of the capital your ppl should say so. We can all revert to regional governments including banadir, now since we are all equal and there is nothing distinct about our regions, The capital will rotate and so will the govt.
The parliament, senate, constitutional court, military, and other state functions will be split between all regions and each one given a specific function of the state. Embassies will be split up and assigned to various parts of the nation.
The parliament, senate, constitutional court, military, and other state functions will be split between all regions and each one given a specific function of the state. Embassies will be split up and assigned to various parts of the nation.
@InaShaqalle tried to use Canada Ottawa. Ottawa is capital of canada not capital of ontario. How can u be a capital of region and nation at the same time? it makes no sense, who will be the government in such scenario?
But isn't Canada federal? Abu Dhabi City is part of Abu Dhabi Emirate so why can't Banadir be part of a FMS.
I wouldn't mind the South African model of having three capital cities, one executive, one legislative and one judicial
Beledweyne or Jowhar would be HS capital even if Banadir joined my state
You’re reaching at straws mate. The vast majority of federal nations put their capitals in a special region.
Malaysia, Australia, India, Ethiopia, United States etc.
So who will rule hamar HS or the Feds? and since you reverted to regional govt, what makes hamar different to any other city in Somalia? u will lose the capital automatically if u play that game as all regions EXPLODE hamar is no different to the regions, the feds must move out etc etc
Benadir state hanoolato, I have always supported it, the MJ who are against Benadir state need to just stick to PL, how can you oppose the people of Benadir and wish them ill, you are abusing their good will and maskiinimo, they even give you a DC in the local government of Benadir, and most likely want to give you senator when Benadir is recognized, this xasidnimo is why Somalis are dysfunctional. Farmaajo will create Benadir state, he loves his home region where he was born.
