who Is more dangerous to our sovereignty Kenya or Ethiopia ?

[GEEL-XAABSADE]

Before anyone says it, I am very much aware that both are pose an existential threat to us. I personally think we are in the worst shape we have ever been in our history. With that said, let’s not say the obvious answer of saying both are dangerous.

kenya wants Somali waters, they also want to have more control in jubaland through Ahmed madobe.

Ethiopia has more soldiers in the country. They want ports, they are already building a navy. They want a soft takeover of Somalia and I for one don’t think the recent mass migration of their people is a coincidence. Abii Ahmed is on record saying he wants more habesha to come and seek work in Somalia. He has more than on one occasion said the Horn should be one country and have one president or Pm.

who is more dangerous if either one were to get their way?

 

[Saeedlfc]

Right now, Kenya. Overall Ethiopia

 

[Marcus]

Kenya

Ethiopia can go through Djibouti and Eritrea with less effort

 

[GEEL-XAABSADE]

Right now, Kenya. Overall Ethiopia

What?

 

[The alchemist]

They're only a threat because we're weak.

 

[Saeedlfc]

What?

Kenya are more aggressively threatening us right now but they are still not as big of a threat as Ethiopia

 

[Ayubi]

They're both the same and we should treat them as such

 

[Adaawe]

Right now, Kenya. Overall Ethiopia

 

[GEEL-XAABSADE]

They're both the same and we should treat them as such

So why do leaders in the country treat one as enemy and the other as a friend? For example the whole opposition group like shakur sharif and Hassan sheekh deni and madobe are all pro Kenya while farmajo and keyre are pro Ethiopia.

how do men in their 50s and 60s make sense of that?

 

[Marcus]

So why do leaders in the country treat one as enemy and the other as a friend? For example the whole opposition group like shakur sharif and Hassan sheekh deni and madobe are all pro Kenya while farmajo and keyre are pro Ethiopia.

how do men in their 50s and 60s make sense of that?

Money talks

 

[Ayubi]

So why do leaders in the country treat one as enemy and the other as a friend? For example the whole opposition group like shakur sharif and Hassan sheekh deni and madobe are all pro Kenya while farmajo and keyre are pro Ethiopia.

how do men in their 50s and 60s make sense of that?

It's selective criticism, these leaders don't care about Somalia, they only care about their personal interests

They should denounce both Kenya and Ethiopia as enemies, not one or another

 

[GEEL-XAABSADE]

It's selective criticism, these leaders don't care about Somalia, they only care about their personal interests

They should denounce both Kenya and Ethiopia as enemies, not one or another

I think you are the first person even on this site to hold this position. Too much hypocrisy from both camps.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Non is Somali enemy.
Somali enemy number one is Somali.
Number two is Somali
Number 3 is Somali.

Stop blaming foreign countries.

 

[Ayubi]

Non is Somali enemy.
Somali enemy number one is Somali.
Number two is Somali
Number 3 is Somali.

Stop blaming foreign countries.

We're talking about external enemies

Kenya and Ethiopia are our external enemies

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

We're talking about external enemies

Kenya and Ethiopia are our external enemies

Saxib regardless enemy is an enemy the most dangerous is the enemy within.
Especially if that enemy within is in Villa Somalia.
You cant say Kenya is our enemy then forget about for who gave out NFD to Kenya.
Then see a former occupant of Villa Somalia who preached that gospel of hate and supported bandits in NFD all over sudden dash to Kenyan border only to know that is where salvation lies.He was airlifted by a KDF helicopter.So I don't think that person was genuine about the hate in the beginning.

The same Farmajo who claims Kenya is our enemy was campaigning in Kenya for more than a year looking for sponsors that was back in 2016.The water despite was still raging and he didnt give a F.His campaign was Ethiopia is our enemy and the moment he came to power, Ethiopia became our loving brethren while Kenya turned into our enemy.Farmajo also has major investments in Kenya as we speak as he has used IC sponsored money for Somalia to build properties in Nairobi.
This is nothing more than a political agenda same slogans Kacanka were using while they forfeited the Ogaden region as well as had super cordial relations with the enemy while the people in NFD and Ogaden region had to go through hell because of the policies they propagated.You cant preach water and drink wine.You have to be consistent.
There was no one in Villa Somalia from 1960 to this date that saw Kenya or Ethiopia as an enemy but they all saw an opportunity to cling to power and shed crocodile tears.Just like Egypt sheds crocodile tears to Palestinians.

Oh yes I forgot about Abdillahi Yussuf too. Then Sh sharif who preached Ethiopia is the enemy only to be airlifted by Kenya in the bushes of Jubbaland and come back as President and start claimming Ethioians are our brothers and in his reign dish out the Somali waters.Then Hassan Sheikh who claimmed Kenya is our enemy,even took them to ICJ but never failed investment opportunities in Kenya.

Then we have Somali Mps who preach Kenya is our enemy but they are always in Kenya building houses and venturing into businesses.

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

if we had our xaar together neither one would be a real threat

 

[Sleepy Hollow]

Foreign enemies only exacerbate the cracks that already exist. If your internally solid then the effects of enemies won't have too much of a drastic impact on your country

 

[Engineer]

they both are to some extend but at this moment Kenya is by far the biggest enemy.

 

[Abdisamad]

I would say non of those countries are a danger.. The real danger is low iq Somalis, we are our own worst enemies

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

All regional players in the Horn are potential security threat, even the Arabs got taste of Somali blood. But right now Kenya is the biggest threat, they are an open enemy to Somalis.