Who Invented Coffee On Twitter
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Main character syndrome is a mf, why is a xalimo trending for defending ethios
She has a Harvard PhD in African history with a particular focus on Somalia and Ethiopia. Why shouldn't she address it?
There is a Yemeni source that states that there was coffee drinking in zeila in 1401, the yemeni author didnt even know what that drink was
https://x.com/baytalfann/status/1708428271686168641?s=46
so the Yemenis and the Ethiopians are fighting who made coffee and drink it first but some nacas Somali women ended up fighting for Ethiopians
https://x.com/safiyaaaay/status/1708455803114443133?s=46
Bruh 10K likes when she could’ve told and spread the truth that it was started by Somalis and was the first to drink it however legendary Somali historian on Twitter came back with a real source
Shoutout to my walaalo for spreading the real truth
Anyways that’s it
Yemenis and Ethiopians are stealing our history
so the Yemenis and the Ethiopians are fighting who made coffee and drink it first but some nacas Somali women ended up fighting for Ethiopians
https://x.com/safiyaaaay/status/1708455803114443133?s=46
Bruh 10K likes when she could’ve told and spread the truth that it was started by Somalis and was the first to drink it however legendary Somali historian on Twitter came back with a real source
Shoutout to my walaalo for spreading the real truth
Anyways that’s it
Yemenis and Ethiopians are stealing our history
How the heck did Somalis start coffee when Somalis don’t even drink coffee? Lol Somalis love shah. Not coffee.
Apparently the oldest source is that Somali men was drinking it first
Also coffeee is loved by Somalis especially my father
Somalis were among its earliest drinkers but I doubt we brewed the drink tbh we played a role in its popularity though
My uncle abdirashid
When we say Ethiopia we aren't talking about the Amxaro or anything. The Kingdom of Kaffa or some lowland east cushite tribe long absorbed by oromos were probably the first to start brewing coffee beans.
Somali merchants were probably one of the earliest to start trading Coffee.
The alchemist
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Super correction: coffee had nothing to do with Abyssinians, but the people of the Islamic civilization (a separate entity from the Habash Christian highlands) and southern highlands as well. Today's Ethiopia was not a thing in medieval times.
I see a lot of Ethiopian Habash who pretend that whatever happened within the borders of modern Ethiopia somehow relates to an internal consistent history that continues to today with Ethiopia as a common umbrella; this is frankly utter fabrication on an ideological proportion.
Adal and Abyssinia were two separate civilizations. Someone from lowland Ethiopia has nothing to do with whatever occurred in the Tigray highlands, as a person from Tigray has nothing to do with whatever occurred in the lowlands, from a pre-modern filtered perspective, and both of those regions adhere to distinct and independent historical, regionalized, and politicized formations.
Ethiopianism masks true history in favor of a Habash centrality, at the same time, then taking credit for everything "Ethiopian," while in the same breath considering those groups they steal history from as peripheral subjections that should adhere to the Habash historical value-judgments when they were just a foreign enemy, appropriating everything towards its center to validate itself beyond its's realistic measures. In truth, a fact is that medieval historical Abyssinia was no more than a strip going from the northern highlands down to north-central modern Ethiopia.
Regarding this matter, I have posted a thread showing how Somalis, including related groups -- mostly lowland Cushitic background -- had coffee culture on an ethnographic level, something that is deeply traditional, not merely a superficial star-bucks coffee drinking process, or limited to Sufi clerics from Yemen:
In terms of trade, went through our coastal region, so the introduction through trade was Somali-facilitated.
I see a lot of Ethiopian Habash who pretend that whatever happened within the borders of modern Ethiopia somehow relates to an internal consistent history that continues to today with Ethiopia as a common umbrella; this is frankly utter fabrication on an ideological proportion.
Adal and Abyssinia were two separate civilizations. Someone from lowland Ethiopia has nothing to do with whatever occurred in the Tigray highlands, as a person from Tigray has nothing to do with whatever occurred in the lowlands, from a pre-modern filtered perspective, and both of those regions adhere to distinct and independent historical, regionalized, and politicized formations.
Ethiopianism masks true history in favor of a Habash centrality, at the same time, then taking credit for everything "Ethiopian," while in the same breath considering those groups they steal history from as peripheral subjections that should adhere to the Habash historical value-judgments when they were just a foreign enemy, appropriating everything towards its center to validate itself beyond its's realistic measures. In truth, a fact is that medieval historical Abyssinia was no more than a strip going from the northern highlands down to north-central modern Ethiopia.
Regarding this matter, I have posted a thread showing how Somalis, including related groups -- mostly lowland Cushitic background -- had coffee culture on an ethnographic level, something that is deeply traditional, not merely a superficial star-bucks coffee drinking process, or limited to Sufi clerics from Yemen:
In terms of trade, went through our coastal region, so the introduction through trade was Somali-facilitated.
You may be one of the better posters in this forum
Sxb know u neighbours history, the Ethiopian orthodox church banned Caffe as they saw it sinful, habash just started drinking Caffe in 19s, alot of Somalis don't know their history kust give yo randoms
As I said the Ethiopia weren't not drinking cafe as the Ethiopia church saw it sinful, Caffe was being consumed in zeila 15s
Somali introduced drinking Caffe to Yemen
Some sources, first written mention of coffee being drunk was in zeila Somalia. Archeological site in amud medieval site had coffee beans. Also Arab geographers attributed coffee as being from north Somalia zeila.
Somali introduced drinking Caffe to Yemen
Some sources, first written mention of coffee being drunk was in zeila Somalia. Archeological site in amud medieval site had coffee beans. Also Arab geographers attributed coffee as being from north Somalia zeila.
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This was also pointed out by a Pro-Ethiopian scholar like Rita Pankhurst;
“..coffee was likewise avoided by Ethiopian Christians until the end of the nineteenth century ( Rita Pankhurst 1997 : 528 )” - The Archaeology of Islam in Sub-Saharan Africa - 73
But most Somalis especially the fathers prefer shaah cadays. My dad hates coffee. Most popular Somali dishes in the morning like beer iyo canjero is served with shaah.
Coffee originated in Ethiopia. It's wrong for yemenis to claim something that originated in Ethiopia.
The alchemist
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The Habash were anti-everything the Muslims did. They, for example, looked down on trade and rejected merchant business vibrancy because, to the Habash, commercial cosmopolitanism was a trait of Muslims. It is one of the reasons economically, we faired far better. Localized rural settlements could not perform towards scalable heights as well as the complex structured networks of the Muslims.
Many local markets were to be found all over the country, for petty trade. This ability to transform any space into a local market is particularly visible in Alvares’s description of the royal camp. Wherever it settled, a market immediately appeared, gathering people from all over the region: Christians sold consumption goods, while Muslims had a bigger market place where they traded imported and manufactured goods.
The virtual monopoly enjoyed by Muslim maritime traders on the Red Sea would be well demonstrated by the history of this term in the different languages employed all over the Red Sea. Indeed, while Christian, Muslim and local-religious political powers all sought to take advantage of long-distance trade, the men who were leading the business were mostly Muslims.
But whatever the influence of Christian merchants on long-distance trade in Ethiopia, the attempt by King Lǝbnä Dǝngǝl (1509–1540) to charter his own ships and negotiate directly with Yemen was a failure.93 Even earlier, Lǝbnä Dǝngǝl had tried to convince the Portuguese to establish trading posts in Massawa and, if successful, also in Zaylaʿ. Even a king could not sidestep the entrenched networks that controlled this trade. - Samantha Kelly, "A Companion to Medieval Ethiopia and Eritrea" (2020): 413, 416-17.
Here is another source underlining the truth of coffee and even khat that also mentions the Christian highlanders did not consume it before the 19th century:
The hate for us fuelled their identity for centuries - they used it for demarcation - contrasted, anti-whatever-Muslims-do:
According to a man named Abdallah al-Zayla'i (high possibility of being Somali) information, relayed to al-Umari, an official of the Egyptian Mamluk Sultan al-Nasir Muhammad's court, commentary was made regarding how the Ethiopian Christians did not eat chicken back then:
Contrasting today, where chicken is an important source of food consumption, for example, doro wat is a chicken-based dish.
Interestingly, the Christians did not always used to eat fish too. Here, Zara Yaqoub, a Christian king in 15th-century claims that fish was not prohibited anywhere for them, so there was no reason to reject eating it:
This, of course, was a pre-Christian dietary practice influenced by the Cushitic attitude toward fish, generally (not absolutely, since we have fish-eating exceptions revealed through the archeological record in Djibouti and the Somali coast in the earliest times). What is revealed through this evidence is that even Christians up to the 15th century did not eat fish or poultry.
Documented in early modern ages, it was noted Somalis did not eat poultry. Southern Ethiopian ethnic groups had an aversion to it, considering it taboo, but then later attributed it to Christian characteristics, as the latter changed their perspective on the bird. Now, intriguingly, the chicken is viewed extremely special animal by the southern Omotics, Damo, and the related peoples.
Non-Habash Christians came to the region informing them that there were no dietary restrictions that they should eat pig, and whatever else, moreover, not have any ritual slaughtering methods (practically removing the Mosaic food-restricted justifications superimposed on non-Christian dietary tendencies):
Here you can see through this text by some Muslims, that camel was seen as a Muslim diet based on a text long after this so-called monologue was captured by a 15-16th-century sultan:
This written chronicle with this fake observer was clearly merely stating the typical historical fabrications to reinforce the Habash historical presence of a revisionist characterization. Nevertheless, one can pick out the stereotypes of diets that the writer with his personification of Sabr ad-Din, the sultan of Ifat, through nonsensical medieval propaganda. The "chronicler" comically projects an antagonistic cartoonish caricature of the Muslim leader where the camel is viewed as an emblematic Muslim dietary meat source - camel-herding as well. It strengthens the claims that the quintessential Islamic ambiance was amongst the agro-pastoral-traders such as Somalis.
Source: https://www.persee.fr/doc/ethio_0066-2127_2014_num_29_1_1558
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