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Historically, Axumites. Today, they're the Christian Semites.
Who Are the Habasha (Abyssinians)?
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your trying to link them with ancient egyptians now? im convinced your Habash.
The sabaens even mentioned the Habeshat.
Xabesha also includes the word ‘Beesha’
/g/ or /k/ → /sh/ or /s/ due to Spirantization
( phonological process ) .
xabak / xabag → xabash / xabas .
in Somali language dictionary :
Ḥabash ( Xabash ) waa dadka oo xabagta xaabsada .
One possible explanation is the interchangeability or correspondence between the sounds /q/ and /b/.
/q/ ↔ /b/ .
so , the (Xaaq) was primarily used for sweeping, whereas the (Xaab) was designed for gathering or collecting materials.
as i told before in your previous post
( Were the Cushites ethnically linked to the ancient Egyptians, and do Somalis share ancestry with them? ) :
No traceable Baisaric ancestry exists. There is no historical evidence for the existence of Baisar, son of Ham, son of Noah. Nor can lineage be reliably attributed to Shem, son of Noah, or to Kush, son of Ham. These are mythological constructs rooted in Jewish tradition, later adopted and perpetuated by some Arab historians in the medieval period ( after 9th century ) .
Genesis 10:6–20 outlines the descendants of Ham, listing his sons as Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan, with no mention of Baisar.
The narratives surrounding Baisar son of Ham son of Noah and his supposed lineage are not found in the primary religious scriptures ( The Hebrew Bible, Septuagint, Vulgate, and Peshitta ) but are instead attributed to later Arabic historical accounts.
These Arabic historical works are later historical narratives that reflect the interpretations and cultural contexts of their authors.
It is important to approach such sources with an understanding of their origins and the purposes they served within their respective societies.
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Oromo aren't habesha
It seems that you haven’t read my previous article about the origins of the Somali people.
Were the Cushites ethnically linked to the ancient Egyptians, and do Somalis share ancestry with them?
There is a common misunderstanding in public discourse that equates Ancient Egyptians with the Kushites, as if they were one people. While both civilizations were African and interacted through trade, warfare, and alliances, the idea that they were ethnically the same is neither historically nor...
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Accusing others of denying their origins just because of a disagreement in discussion shows that you are being petty and not using your intellect, even a little.
Let me tell you something: I have stated and clarified that they descend from three ancestral roots — Semites from the Arabian Peninsula, "Baisaric" from Egypt, and Kushites from Sudan.
You can even observe this through facial features — about 40% of them resemble us. Moreover, their clothing, ornaments, and musical instruments are similar to those found in ancient Egypt, simply because it's a Baisaric culture.
Saying that the Habesha are Arabs, or that they are ancient Egyptians, or that they are Sudanese is incorrect — they are a mix of all three and have formed a distinct identity.
The Somalis are the only Baisaric who have preserved their ethnicity, culture, and genealogies without mixing with other ethnic groups.
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who was the children of Ham then.
They crossed the Bab al Mandeb this is unarguable since the early sabaen inscription mentions the Habeshat in Yemen. These people crossed and intermingled with the indegnious Cushitic speaking population but if we were to trace their true origin they are originally from Arabia. if you disagree with this adress to me what the Habeshat of Yemen are.
Alright, let each of us remain convinced of their own theory, and let's leave it to the reader to determine who is right. In the end, time will reveal the truth when Somali historians and archaeologists dedicate themselves to the study of Somali, Abyssinian, and ancient Egyptian history, and then it will become clear who was right.
At the moment, I'm considering specializing in this field and gathering material evidence to support my theory, which I believe is the closest to the truth. In my view, all the opposing theories are contradictory nonsense. Each side cites what researcher X assumed or what historian Y believed, selectively picking what aligns with their political agendas while ignoring contradicting evidence due to political or nationalist motives—be it Egyptian nationalism, Eurocentrism, Afrocentrism, the policies of the Ethiopian government, or Ethiopian nationalists.
you've completely ignored my questions who are the Habeshat of Yemen?.
I haven’t ignored anything. If you have something to share, feel free to post it. In the end, each of us will stick to their opinion anyway.
sxb you are claiming these semitic speaking population in the Horn (Habash) are not from arabia you then go on to link them with with ancient Egyptians. If your theory is correct address to me the Habeshat of Yemen were also there language Scripture has been proven to have south Arabian origins.
To debunk what you have just said here.
read here kitchen, Kenneth A. Documentation for Ancient Arabia: Historical Records from North-West Arabia, Southern Arabia, Qahtan and Qataban. Liverpool University Press, 1994.
Here the Author translates ancient Arabian inscriptions. His work includes discussions of Sabaean texts that refer to interactions with "Ḥbśt" which include campaigns and other things.
By the 6th century A.D some of these peoples (Tigre) had already been established in the Horn of Africa much after the collapse of Saba. Stephanus of Byzantine had made mention of the Abyssinains and described them as an Arabian people, you must take note here on how he uses a new term Abyssinian and this is undoubtedly the Habash why would he refrain from using the Term Kush or Barbarian like his predecessors? this is obvious they were a different people and were rightfully mentioned as Abysinian not Barbara or Aethiopian in his text.
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Garaad Awal
Former African
Dumb ass list. Habeshas are the Northern Ethiopians of the highlands plain & simple. This includes the Northern Oromo, Agaw etc . Only a historically illiterate would consider the Afars or Wolayta as Habeshas. Even the rest of the Oromos ain’t Habesha. I exclude the Tigre pastoralists of Eritrea’s lowlands & Sudan. They are in the Beja/Sudanese Arab cultural sphere.
The core Habesha group are the Amhara & Tigrayans of Ethiopia & Eritrea.
The core Habesha group are the Amhara & Tigrayans of Ethiopia & Eritrea.
you cannot remove Eritrea from here they were historically part of Aksum.
Xabesha also includes the word ‘Beesha’
The original meaning of the word ḥabash is "to gather" or " to collect " .
It does not convey any connotation of mixing, blending, or uniting.
in Somali language dictionary :
Ḥabash ( Xabash ) waa dadka oo xabagta xaabsada .
Etymologically, the term Ḥabash ( xaabso , xaabsato or xaabsasho ) is traditionally associated with a people renowned for their expertise in collecting, harvesting and gathering frankincense and myrrh resins.
in somali language frankincense and myrrh resins are called xabag ( ḥabag ) .
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Garaad Awal
Former African
Are you illiterate? I only removed the modern lowlands and we are speaking about today.
So were the lowlands.
