Which ancient civilisation interests you and why?

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For me it's ancient Egypt. The architecture and art. It's crazy how folks who lived thousands of years ago created wonders like the Pyramids of Giza.
 

mahamdov

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The Greeks are the cause of the civilization we live in today. And most scientific theories started there
 

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@mahamdov @Doctorabdi I know you guys are pro greeks but they r newcomers in terms of egypt n iraq, plus why wud they come to 'ancient' egypt where their legacy is still there 'alexandria' loooooool if not to learn, translate from them and then store it and export it.

Ancient egypt founding is without a doubt in my eyes black as hell and then the 'semetics' came prior to the greeks and the greeks came and did the same. The heartland is 'ancient egypt' as you can see people all invading it constantly while the innocent founders keeps going 'south' to aswan and north sudan and ethiopia not wanting destruction, 'wise' or else they won't be remembered their legacy as people will say nothing existed there.

Look at somalia coastline if it wasn't for ancient documents writing about it, we could be told we had nothing also. I am studying what causes places to just 'vanish' without a trace and use that wisdom to keep our contributions/legacy alive as long as possible.
 

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The ancient chinese civilization the mesopotamian the mesoamericans and the romans.

Their much later I think. Were talking about 'cradle' not when people copied and evolved from it. Iraq n Egypt tend to have lots of ppl invading and ppl dont invade for nothing if their isnt a 'gain'.
 

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@Garaad diinle a-lot of modern humans tend to share the following

1. Farming, Herding, Pottery, Metals,not 'hunter/gathering' showing a common origin for it before they travelled away or else to argue it developed independently is magic or miracle talks. The sans bushmen n aborigines didn't experience this phase and even they can be graded who is older by 'language' development and sans bushmen r older.

2. Civilizations such as structures, writing, books, knowledge fields(arts, science, kingdoms, empires)
 

ZBR

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Greeks were savages like Somalis who cared more about infighting between city states and qabill supremacy. They destroyed themselves very quickly

Their biggest boon was their silver mines and the slaves they had to mine it while they sat back and studied in their leisure time

Romans were the civilized ones, you can learn a lot from the Romans, they thought ahead

Nabateans are very interesting and added a lot to modren history, it’s possible Roman cement originated from them
 

ZBR

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Phoenicians Carthaginians and Etruscans are also interesting, the were the models and set the precedent for the Romans
 

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Phoenicians Carthaginians and Etruscans are also interesting, the were the models and set the precedent for the Romans

Yes Rome and Greece is to 'grand' to have developed to that stage without infant origins(cradle) to tap into and advance further or else we would need to believe the 'jet fighter n drones' came first and not the infant origins of the 'wright brother planes' which sits well with logic.

So question remains where did iraq n egypt 'infant origins' come from before the 'grand structures'? The oldest mummy was black found in the libya desert pre-dating ancient egypt by 1000 years.

 

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We need to start with ancient egypt language not when it evolved much later from the semites and greek, but we need to go back n find the 'oldest'
 

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I noticed their must be some 'legacy' left over from ancient egypt in even our 'later' culture where all Somalis get emotional when they hear 'king' and respond 'only god is king', maybe their was king worship and left a legacy on us to be fearful of anything calling themselves king. Before pharoah period, ancient egyptians were knowns as KINGS even attested by the quran to differentiate the moses period and 'joseph' period the son of Jacob son of Abraham period
 

Garaad diinle

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Their much later I think. Were talking about 'cradle' not when people copied and evolved from it. Iraq n Egypt tend to have lots of ppl invading and ppl dont invade for nothing if their isnt a 'gain'.
While the roman and the chinese might be considered a late comers to civilization building their impact on the world is undeniable. The world is already influenced by the roman empire and you'll find their script the latin alphabet used everywhere. Not to mention the latin vocabulary found in all fields of science. We also have a lot of invention from the roman empire such as concrete etc.



Same goes for the chinese meanwhile the world completely forgot about the ancient egyptions and the mesopotamians until modern archaeology. Their achievement and triumph was unknown for most of the medieval, renaissance and early modern period.
 

ZBR

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Yes Rome and Greece is to 'grand' to have developed to that stage without infant origins(cradle) to tap into and advance further or else we would need to believe the 'jet fighter n drones' came first and not the infant origins of the 'wright brother planes' which sits well with logic.

So question remains where did iraq n egypt 'infant origins' come from before the 'grand structures'? The oldest mummy was black found in the libya desert pre-dating ancient egypt by 1000 years.

Idk and Allah know best

reading surah nuh is interesting as it shows the interests of the ancient man, his scientific calculations and thoughts are concerned with the clouds, rain, etc for his agricultural production and the idols they worship were weather oriented.

according to records we have of the Sumerian they really were obsessed with metrology , they had elaborate priesthood, mathematics and physics to support their weather predictions

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/1512/1/012039/pdf

also furthermore they saw themselves as inheritors of a post flood knowledge not as originators
 

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@Garaad diinle no doubt the chinese/romans/greek left a strong impact even if they came much later and influence our wor;d today(longevity) is impressive which as u said undeniable. Longevity is definitely a 'measure' in it's own right, in this ever-evolving world not much 'lasts' and if u can buck that 'trend' that is a great achievment.

The Jews are also impressive in terms of longevity, all the nations they talk about ironically are extinct, was their 'curse' from god maybe who knows
 

Shaygoosh

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The ancient Macrobian!

I want to know their secret to longevity and what region they hid their gold.

:shaq:
 

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Africa is generally seen as origin of modern humans but they left n migrated into mid-east, except probably the 'sans bushmen'. Lots of things developed in mid-east like farming-herding-metal-pottery and eventually knowledge. Then a migration happened back in-wards onto the continent. Was language was also developed in the mid-east like the bible says of 'babylon'? cuz sans bushmen is clicks-clacks only. Wats the link between language n dna? is that when real 'dna' started when people formed languages and therefore communities and interbred?

Can u be different DNA and hold different language? we know minority-majority dna clads co-existed, who came the first minority clad who was overpopulated by majority clad? or did majority clad welcome in minority clad? Was language formed then leading to community 'sense'? after all how can u communicate which is a big factor, language will create the biggest barrier between groups.
 

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