What's your favorite Muslim empire?

[AbwaanCali]

Umayyad has a sahabi leader as well as the first mujaddid as khulafa.

 

[Aurelian]

Ummayad of course. They still had Sahaba living amongst them. You can’t compete with that. Case closed

Under Ummayad rule, the Kabba was shelled with manganon after 6 month siege, it got partially destroyed, Madina was sacked and plundered, the women were assaulted and raped, some sahaba were killed and crucified like Ibn Al-Zubeir the grand son of Abu Bakr, but thanks to an old --now dead-- madhab, the regime was alright all of that.

Al-Hajaaj governor history's alone is a bad mark on the Ummayad's. For example, when he crusified the son of Asma' the daughter of Abu Bakr, he sent for her to show up and see her son's crucifiction, in a Joffrey Game of Thrones style.

 

[mohammdov]

I don't have a favorite, I just like some Muslim caliphs

 

[attash]

Under Ummayad rule, the Kabba was shelled with manganon after 6 month siege, it got partially destroyed, Madina was sacked and plundered, the women were assaulted and raped, some sahaba were killed and crucified like Ibn Al-Zubeir the grand son of Abu Bakr, but thanks to an old --now dead-- madhab, the regime was alright all of that.

Al-Hajaaj governor history's alone is a bad mark on the Ummayad's. For example, when he crusified the son of Asma' the daughter of Abu Bakr, he sent for her to show up and see her son's crucifiction, in a Joffrey Game of Thrones style.

The story of Umayyad troops plundering Madinah and raping women is likely fabricated propaganda. The transmitter of this story is Abu Mikhnaf, who is seen as an unreliable source. Another historian, Awana ibn Al-Hakam, never mentions the Umayyad commander Ibn Uqba plundering the city; instead he describes him as entering the city peacefully, obtaining allegiance from the chiefs, and executing certain rebel leaders.

 

[AbwaanCali]

If we remove Muawiyah (RA) and Umar ibn Abd Al Aziz as options. Then I guess I might choose Ayyubid for reclaiming Al Quds or Ottoman for conquering Constantinople. Then again, Abbasids had the Islamic Golden Age and Seljuk built the Nizamiyyas.

 

[Aurelian]

The story of Umayyad troops plundering Madinah and raping women is likely fabricated propaganda. The transmitter of this story is Abu Mikhnaf, who is seen as an unreliable source. Another historian, Awana ibn Al-Hakam, never mentions the Umayyad commander Ibn Uqba plundering the city; instead he describes him as entering the city peacefully, obtaining allegiance from the chiefs, and executing certain rebel leaders.

Even if you made execuses for Madina incidence, there are other atrocities in Mekka and Iraq, like killing the sahaba and shelling the Ka'ba.

 

[Qeelbax]

Cordoba Caliphate, Fatimid Caliphate, Almoravid Empire, Almohad Caliphate, Empire of Mali, Songhai Empire,Sokoto Caliphate,Safavids, Sultanate of Oman (Empire), Delhi Sultanate,Ayyubid Dynasty

YOU ARE PROBABLY A SHIA INNIT!

 

[Qeelbax]

Seljuks

Slaves to Caliphs

 

[AbwaanCali]

Seljuks

Slaves to Caliphs

Pretty sure you mean Mamluks. Also the only khilafa were Rashidun, Abbasid and Ottoman. All the others are sultanates.

 

[Qeelbax]

Pretty sure you mean Mamluks. Also the only khilafa were Rashidun, Abbasid and Ottoman. All the others are sultanates.

You are right

I felt like something with off but I still went with it

 

[Cush]

The kingdom of Jabarta and Saylac

 

[AbwaanCali]

The kingdom of Jabarta and Saylac

Not on the list, tard

 

[Cush]

Not on the list, tard

Idgaf

 

[Cush]

Ottaman empire had grave worshipers and allied with the french and english and fought Ibn Abdul Wahab

 

[Khaemwaset]

Adal should be put on that list although it died relatively quickly due to its eventual defeat and death of the Imam and weakness of his successor, Nur, in cintinuing the fight against Abyssinia.

But Adal was basically the reverse crusades. Bunch of muslims nearly packed an ancient Christian kingdom and nearly united the horn under a single Islamic empire which would've made it one of the largest states in the world.

 

[Cush]

Adal should be put on that list although it died relatively quickly due to its eventual defeat and death of the Imam and weakness of his successor, Nur, in cintinuing the fight against Abyssinia.

But Adal was basically the reverse crusades. Bunch of muslims nearly packed an ancient Christian kingdom and nearly united the horn under a single Islamic empire which would've made it one of the largest states in the world.

Adal never ended, it continued with Aussa, which was Adal with a changed capital that's it

 

[Qeelbax]

Ottaman empire had grave worshipers and allied with the french and english and fought Ibn Abdul Wahab

You mean he fought the Ottomans and allied with the British dumb dumb

 

[Cush]

You mean he fought the Ottomans and allied with the British dumb dumb

Britain didn't even come to Saudi Arabia MIAW died in 1792

 

[Khaemwaset]

Adal never ended, it continued with Aussa, which was Adal with a changed capital that's it

Thats like saying "Rome never ended it just became the Vatican"

Sure it sort of exists by succession but the Empire of Adal that nearly conquered the horn no longer exists.
Harar is in the hands of Christian Habasha and flooded with Oromo.

Both groups were kept out at all costs by Adalites and Harar during the medieval times.

 

[Cush]

Thats like saying "Rome never ended it just became the Vatican"

Sure it sort of exists by succession but the Empire of Adal that nearly conquered the horn no longer exists.
Harar is in the hands of Christian Habasha and flooded with Oromo.

Both groups were kept out at all costs by Adalites and Harar during the medieval times.

That is a completely retarded comparison, a better one would be Rome and Byzantium, and when the west of Rome fell, Byzantium was the continued empire and it was called the eastern Roman empire

And Harar never fell to the hands of the christians, they constantly repelled the Oromo attacks but the problem was they got raided too much so to ensure safety and stability for the kingdom the capital was moved to Aussa, it was still Adal, if the capital of the US changes from Washington to Minneapolis will it cease to be the US?

And Harar was part of Adal why did you mention them separately

@Three Moons