What's with Nigerians obssession with Somalia

Idilinaa

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Somalia is a failed state, it’s easy to use it as a reference point for chaos and fragility.
If you or others use the perception of Somalia as a failed state to deflect from your own failings and shortcomings, then you are the real failure.

Nigeria is a dumpster fire of a country mentioning Somalia won’t change that. And people on this site who badmouth Somalia instead of contributing to it like healthy, responsible individuals are just social rejects.
 
If you or others use the perception of Somalia as a failed state to deflect from your own failings and shortcomings, then you are the real failure.

Nigeria is a dumpster fire of a country mentioning Somalia won’t change that. And people on this site who badmouth Somalia instead of contributing to it like healthy, responsible individuals are just social rejects.
Ay, I’m not the one who caused the country to be in total anarchy for ~40 years. I don’t even think Somalia is the worst country in Africa but is that really the bar you’re thriving for? It’s time to face reality and realize that the outlook of Somalia is concerning. How long will this fugazi govt last when it doesn’t control any territory outside of Xamar, let alone foreign aid cuts and impending terrorist incursions. Corruption and remittance can only take you so far.
 

Idilinaa

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Ay, I’m not the one who caused the country to be in total anarchy for ~40 years. I don’t even think Somalia is the worst country in Africa but is that really the bar you’re thriving for? It’s time to face reality and realize that the outlook of Somalia is concerning. How long will this fugazi govt last when it doesn’t control any territory outside of Xamar, let alone foreign aid cuts and impending terrorist incursions. Corruption and remittance can only take you so far.

Somalia has never been in 'total anarchy.' It has functioning regional governments that actually run their territories.

Remittances make up only about 2% of Somalia’s economy , the real driver is domestic production and trade. The regional government earns most of its revenue by taxing trade, not handouts.

Somalia isn’t sustained by foreign aid either; it’s sustained by its private sector and strong local/internal governance.

The reason Somalia keeps going despite constant outside interference that birthed AS among other things , is because it’s not run by hopeless defeatist losers like you. It’s powered by the resilience of its people, who are forward thinkers, who have revived every sector , energy, industry, trade and logistics, agriculture, fisheries, business, education, healthcare without billions in loans or foreign investments or donor money that other countries receive.

What exposes you and Nigerians or others as losers is that while you badmouth Somalia with tired, useless perceptions, Somalis are out there actually building and getting things done.

In less than a decade, we’ve expanded electricity access by 80%, internet coverage by 89%, clean water to 77% of the poppulation , boosted agriculture through micro-irrigation and micro-financing, grown industries, and increased fisheries production by 400%., expanded literacy to 70% of youth population (15-30). Somalia having one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

The point of a government is to deliver services, safeguard, and improve the quality of life for its people and in Somalia, there’s plenty of that happening.
 
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Idilinaa

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VIP
What exposes you and Nigerians or others as losers is that while you badmouth Somalia with tired, useless perceptions, Somalis are out there actually building and getting things done.

In less than a decade, we’ve expanded electricity access by 80%, internet coverage by 89%, clean water to 77% of the poppulation , boosted agriculture through micro-irrigation and micro-financing, grown industries, and increased fisheries production by 400%., expanded literacy to 70% of youth population (15-30).

The point of a government is to deliver services, safeguard, and improve the quality of life for its people and in Somalia, there’s plenty of that happening.

This really shows how laughable the whole “failed state” label is. What’s the point of having an “intact” government if your country is crime infested, people can’t walk safely, goods and services get stolen in transit, huge parts of the population live in slums or on the streets, millions are illiterate, and many still lack electricity, internet, clean water, or any economic safety net? That’s the reality in India, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Kenya, Iraq, and plenty of others the complete opposite of Somalia in many respects.

The “failed state” narrative is also mostly a lie. The north has had two stable governments for over 30 years, plus now another Somali govt in Ogaden none of which have collapsed.

The south would be the same if it weren’t for constant foreign interference, where outsiders disrupted state building or toppled effective administrations to impose their own political projects. Even so, it has managed to bring enough stability to Mogadishu for more than a decade to sustain development and trade, as well as to many surrounding areas that were recaptured several years ago places like Afgooye, Beledweyne, Jowhar, Baydhoba, Kismaayo, Afmadow, Dhusamareb, Galkacyo and most other major towns, all of which have resumed normal activity. Most mayor cities and ports in the south is outside the control of Terrorists. As well as the regional capitals and larger urban centers is outside their control.
How long will this fugazi govt last when it doesn’t control any territory outside of Xamar,

The government (including federal and regional administrations) controls most of the populated and strategic areas outside of Xamar, including those they have captured since 2012–2014. Meanwhile, Al-Shabab mostly controls a patchwork of rural villages and maintains hideouts in remote, open regions.
 
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