What time do you wake up?

[Twwin]

I do but my body is always waking up late lol. I can't get my body to wake up on fajr I need to find a way.

Drink lots of water before sleep.

 

[Mercury]

I wake up at 4:15

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Thats my goal. But i find it hard.
Have you always been like that or is it something you have trained yourself to do?

No tbh. But I trained myself to wake up at 5 am. It was really hard for me at first but I kept setting my alarm 5 a.m. and hid my phone in my closet. It would take me 5 mins

 

[Crow]

I wake up at 6 for school and around 10 on weekends. During the summer, I wake up after 12.

 

[Mercury]

I do but my body is always waking up late lol. I can't get my body to wake up on fajr I need to find a way.

Just make it a habit it Will be gradually easier I woke up at 4 everyday back home I was at the mosque before the sheekh opened the place up been a habit that stuck since

 

[YourBroMoe]

Don’t you pray?

I've told people like a thousand times, I'm not the most religious man in the block.

 

[Muji]

I've told people like a thousand times, I'm not the most religious man in the block.

Aka you are a gaal

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

I've told people like a thousand times, I'm not the most religious man in the block.

Do you still live at home? Don't your parents wake you up for fajr.



I get anxious if I don't pray salat.

 

[Sophisticate]

Ever since I started working offsite my sleep routine has been off. I'm awake at normal and odd times. Flexibility is slavery.

 

[YourBroMoe]

Do you still live at home? Don't your parents wake you up for fajr.



I get anxious if I don't pray salat.

We're a pretty chill family.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

We're a pretty chill family.

Chill as in they're also not serious about the religion?

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Ever since I started working offsite my sleep routine has been off. I'm awake at normal and odd times. Flexibility is slavery.

Sophiiiiiiiiiiiiie


Where have you been?

I missed your posts.

 

[YourBroMoe]

Chill as in they're also not serious about the religion?

Yup. They believe a lot more strongly in the faith than me. When I was religious, I was the only one really going hard in the paint with praying. After my 1st year of uni, I stopped being religious because of reasons I think aren't best to explain in a humor based forum.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Yup. They believe a lot more strongly in the faith than me. When I was religious, I was the only one really going hard in the paint with praying. After my 1st year of uni, I stopped being religious because of reasons I think aren't best to explain in a humor based forum.

Wait what? You were religious but not anymore?

Can you elaborate please, and if you don't feel comfortable sharing it on here then send me a message, there's no judgement on my part I'm just curious.

 

[Sophisticate]

Sophiiiiiiiiiiiiie


Where have you been?

I missed your posts.

@Reiko, its only you and @Apollo that noticed my absence. I came back for you guys, mon ami.

Who else will appreciate my incisive commentary on 90 days Fiance.

Angela was on Maury. And that African fellow was looking to Tahrib by any means necessary. Even if the floatation device was a senior version of Mama June (but less likable and with more buuq).

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

@Reiko, its only you and @Apollo that noticed my absence. I came back for you guys, mon ami.

Who else will appreciate my incisive commentary on 90 days Fiance.

Angela was on Maury. And that African fellow was looking to Tahrib by any means necessary. Even if the floatation device was a senior version of Mama June (but less likable and with more buuq).

Angela must be really dumb or naive to think Michael actually loved her. Did you watch the tell all episode, where he said he respects Angela because she's his elder and she flew out of the handle and cancelled the engagement. He actually almost cried. Lmfao


Paul is another nutcase, he said he will make his Brazilian bride (gold digger) take a DNA after the child is born.

 

[Geeljire lotus]

Let me guess security guard.

Lmaooo I went through a phase I can’t front

 

[YourBroMoe]

Wait what? You were religious but not anymore?

Can you elaborate please, and if you don't feel comfortable sharing it on here then send me a message, there's no judgement on my part I'm just curious.

Eh f*ck it, no one knows me irl, I'll explain.

Couple of disclaimers:
1. I believe in God. The universe didn't just happen. That's an absurdity.
2. My lack of faith isn't due to a disdain for it, but due to moral contradictions that are hard to reconcile with.
3. Science wasn't really a major player in my views on faith. Philosophy was.

Alright, time for a story folks. From middle school to high school, I was a religious kid. Not the kind that gets in your face, but the kind that was devout enough to notice. Friday prayer club in school. Dugsi on weekends. Shit like that. In my first year of university, I've begun to be more interested in philosophy as a topic. At this point, there was no real connection with philosophy and religion at the time.

By university, I began to examine Islam. Not because I had doubts, but because others had doubts, and I felt that examining the faith would lead me to building a stronger foundation to my faith. If that makes sense.

Scientifically, one can definitely still be a Muslim and accept scientific truths. At least it was easy for me. Evolution didn't waver my faith.

Ethics and Logic did. I'll break down the major things that, at least in my eye, don't make sense about the faith. If you got an adequate answer for them, by all means, shoot them up.

1. Destiny and free will.

Logically speaking, these things are a clear contradiction. There's no way both can exist in the same time. God in the faith makes a lot of points clear.

a. Our lives are predestined.
b. God's will is absolute.
c. All things are controlled by God. All is God's will.

Based on these points, that if you disagree with, means you disagree with the absoluteness of destiny, means that any responsibility or accountability for the sins of man cannot be sensible taken seriously. Why should their sins be counted, if they were destined to sin in the first place? They had free will and wanted to sin? Why was this the case? Because it was their destiny. You cannot have both free will and destiny. They are not compatible.

2. The Problem with Evil

Just note, that I will being using point 1 to strengthen point 2 here, and point 2 for point 3.

The problem of evil was a riddle proposed by the philosopher Epicurus. It goes like this.

God is all powerful, all knowing and all kind.

Based on these attributes, evil cannot exist.

If God is all powerful and all knowing, does He not care?
If God is all loving and all powerful, is He ignorant?
If God is only all loving and all knowing, is He not strong enough?
If God is all loving, all knowing and all powerful, then where does evil come from?

I myself had a solution for this. This world is a test. And that evil is a necessity for that test, to prove that man is worthy of heaven. 2 major problems with this.

a. Because we established that free will and destiny are not compatible, then the test in and of itself is a farce. The result of the test was determined before the person was born. What kind of test is that? How can one even call that a test? Since such a test was useless from its inception, the fact that evil still remains becomes a major issue.

b. This does not account for natural evils. Humans born deformed. Natural disasters. Diseases. Accidents. Etc. How does one account for evils that have nothing to do with testing a man's moral worth for heaven? Why do these things occur? So that man accepts God's will absolutely? Then why is it done unfairly? Prophet Job was a testament for this. But God made Job, and written his story before he was born. As such, the entire result was already made up by God before hand. Such an example then cannot be taken seriously by any sane person.

3. The Problem with Hell

This is the most extreme point. Not for the faint of heart. I'm being serious for once.

Hell and God, by the definition of His character, cannot coexist.

Let us begin by defining Hell, so no one confused by the points I'll make below.

Hell: A world created by God as a punishment for sinners. How long one is punished will vary. Some are punished for all eternity.

It is the italicized sentence in the definition that's the major problem. Here are a list:

a. God is defined as perfectly just and fair, and yet punishes man for eternity when they lived a finite life. Eventually, there will come a point where man's punishment exceeds his life on Earth. How can one justify this?
b. God had a man's life predestined, and yet deems it just to punish said man for all eternity.
c. The punishment of Hell is more severe than anything man can do in this world. By this clear understanding, the punishment clearly does not fit the crime.
d. The reasons for man's punishment by Hell seem more fear based, then morally based. A man of a different faith will go to Hell for having a different faith. Why? On what moral grounds can one justify this? Why would God do this? Who benefits by this? Of course, the leaders of the faith.
e. Other faiths have Hell, under the same exact conditions, Christianity for example. What is a man to do in this situation? Flip a coin? Get their fingers crossed that they made the right choice of Hell? This is absurd.


And there ya go. Those are the reasons as to why I'm not religious anymore. I'm of course open to people's answers for these. I will take them seriously, and will not attack anyone who wants to actually try and answer them. I will simply attack the points if needed. Nothing more.

 

[Sophisticate]

Angela must be really dumb or naive to think Michael actually loved her. Did you watch the tell all episode, where he said he respects Angela because she's his elder and she flew out of the handle and cancelled the engagement. He actually almost cried. Lmfao


Paul is another nutcase, he said he will make his Brazilian bride (gold digger) take a DNA after the child is born.

Angela teased him. She gave him a pond shop promise ring wrapped in an American flag and dashed his dreams away. That and falsely accusing him of theft. Just because the little guy is Nigerian. Raciiist.

This show is my guilty pleasure. Paul commited arson in a past life (and stalked an Ex). I was not suprised he'd ask for DNA a second time. I was astounded in Ep. 1 where he carried around a lock of his hooyo's hair en route to Brasil. He even wore a bullet proof vest while there.

I think Darcey was used by that Scandanvian, Jesse. He preyed on her insecurities. And it was hard to ignore the gas lighting.

During the reunion, He said she catfished him with a 20 year old pic. :siilaanyolaugh: Let's face it he did not have a mature woman fettish. He liked mature money.:siilaanyosmile:

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Eh f*ck it, no one knows me irl, I'll explain.

Couple of disclaimers:
1. I believe in God. The universe didn't just happen. That's an absurdity.
2. My lack of faith isn't due to a disdain for it, but due to moral contradictions that are hard to reconcile with.
3. Science wasn't really a major player in my views on faith. Philosophy was.

Alright, time for a story folks. From middle school to high school, I was a religious kid. Not the kind that gets in your face, but the kind that was devout enough to notice. Friday prayer club in school. Dugsi on weekends. Shit like that. In my first year of university, I've begun to be more interested in philosophy as a topic. At this point, there was no real connection with philosophy and religion at the time.

By university, I began to examine Islam. Not because I had doubts, but because others had doubts, and I felt that examining the faith would lead me to building a stronger foundation to my faith. If that makes sense.

Scientifically, one can definitely still be a Muslim and accept scientific truths. At least it was easy for me. Evolution didn't waver my faith.

Ethics and Logic did. I'll break down the major things that, at least in my eye, don't make sense about the faith. If you got an adequate answer for them, by all means, shoot them up.

1. Destiny and free will.

Logically speaking, these things are a clear contradiction. There's no way both can exist in the same time. God in the faith makes a lot of points clear.

a. Our lives are predestined.
b. God's will is absolute.
c. All things are controlled by God. All is God's will.

Based on these points, that if you disagree with, means you disagree with the absoluteness of destiny, means that any responsibility or accountability for the sins of man cannot be sensible taken seriously. Why should their sins be counted, if they were destined to sin in the first place? They had free will and wanted to sin? Why was this the case? Because it was their destiny. You cannot have both free will and destiny. They are not compatible.

2. The Problem with Evil

Just note, that I will being using point 1 to strengthen point 2 here, and point 2 for point 3.

The problem of evil was a riddle proposed by the philosopher Epicurus. It goes like this.

God is all powerful, all knowing and all kind.

Based on these attributes, evil cannot exist.

If God is all powerful and all knowing, does He not care?
If God is all loving and all powerful, is He ignorant?
If God is only all loving and all knowing, is He not strong enough?
If God is all loving, all knowing and all powerful, then where does evil come from?

I myself had a solution for this. This world is a test. And that evil is a necessity for that test, to prove that man is worthy of heaven. 2 major problems with this.

a. Because we established that free will and destiny are not compatible, then the test in and of itself is a farce. The result of the test was determined before the person was born. What kind of test is that? How can one even call that a test? Since such a test was useless from its inception, the fact that evil still remains becomes a major issue.

b. This does not account for natural evils. Humans born deformed. Natural disasters. Diseases. Accidents. Etc. How does one account for evils that have nothing to do with testing a man's moral worth for heaven? Why do these things occur? So that man accepts God's will absolutely? Then why is it done unfairly? Prophet Job was a testament for this. But God made Job, and written his story before he was born. As such, the entire result was already made up by God before hand. Such an example then cannot be taken seriously by any sane person.

3. The Problem with Hell

This is the most extreme point. Not for the faint of heart. I'm being serious for once.

Hell and God, by the definition of His character, cannot coexist.

Let us begin by defining Hell, so no one confused by the points I'll make below.

Hell: A world created by God as a punishment for sinners. How long one is punished will vary. Some are punished for all eternity.

It is the italicized sentence in the definition that's the major problem. Here are a list:

a. God is defined as perfectly just and fair, and yet punishes man for eternity when they lived a finite life. Eventually, there will come a point where man's punishment exceeds his life on Earth. How can one justify this?
b. God had a man's life predestined, and yet deems it just to punish said man for all eternity.
c. The punishment of Hell is more severe than anything man can do in this world. By this clear understanding, the punishment clearly does not fit the crime.
d. The reasons for man's punishment by Hell seem more fear based, then morally based. A man of a different faith will go to Hell for having a different faith. Why? On what moral grounds can one justify this? Why would God do this? Who benefits by this? Of course, the leaders of the faith.
e. Other faiths have Hell, under the same exact conditions, Christianity for example. What is a man to do in this situation? Flip a coin? Get their fingers crossed that they made the right choice of Hell? This is absurd.


And there ya go. Those are the reasons as to why I'm not religious anymore. I'm of course open to people's answers for these. I will take them seriously, and will not attack anyone who wants to actually try and answer them. I will simply attack the points if needed. Nothing more.

I'm flabbergasted!

May Allah swt restore your faith back. I'm saying this as your Muslim sister.