What Lands Did Somalis Conquer?

[Cush]

I know we conquered up to south eastern Africa in Mozambique, Maldives, to Sudan but that's it? Other empires conquered way way way huger lands and united all of their people, when compared with other empires, our empires look so miniscule?
I think there is a lot of taariikh being hidden because why couldn't we achieved this? I've never even seen a single empire with huge land
Done some digging and found out we conquered a crazy place, if that's being hidden I wonder what else?
Any other places we've colonized?

I heard we conquered Yemen but I need more sources, there's a lost Somali clan on the Adan coast with a large piece of land so who knows if they were a result of our conquest?

 

[Hilmaam]

Somalia population was less than 3 million 100 years ago. Ancient Egypt thousands of years ago was bigger multiple times. Ancient China had battles thousand years ago that killed numbers close to our current population m. You need numbers and centralization to dominate not little clan fiefdoms

 

[The alchemist]

You're back on it, I see.

 

[HabarSteven12]

Wallahi Somali hoteps are hilarious. Somalis didn't conquer Mozambique, the Maldives, Sudan, or Yemen. You hoteps make the most outrageous and laughable claims.

 

[Yami]

Somalia population was less than 3 million 100 years ago. Ancient Egypt thousands of years ago was bigger multiple times. Ancient China had battles thousand years ago that killed numbers close to our current population m. You need numbers and centralization to dominate not little clan fiefdoms

There was a chinese war 2000 years ago that killed 20 million people

 

[Yami]

Wallahi Somali hoteps are hilarious. Somalis didn't conquer Mozambique, the Maldives, Sudan, or Yemen. You hoteps make the most outrageous and laughable claims.

Uncommon HabarSteven W. Make more W comments like this & I'll start to believe we were really homeless adoons afterall

 

[Cush]

Somalia population was less than 3 million 100 years ago. Ancient Egypt thousands of years ago was bigger multiple times. Ancient China had battles thousand years ago that killed numbers close to our current population m. You need numbers and centralization to dominate not little clan fiefdoms

The ancient Somalis are non existent, this can be proven by literal common sense
All Somalis are E-Y18629, 2600 years old the rest are T which entered 2000 years ago from Mesopatamia
Punt existed 4000 years ago

Also many famines happened in Somalia and natural disasters, there are towns which have been excavated in Puntland but no settlements there above them also Xaafuun was abandoned

 

[Cush]

Uncommon HabarSteven W. Make more W comments like this & I'll start to believe we were really homeless adoons afterall

Somalis conquered Mozambique and established a colony in Sofala where for gold excavations, Adal spanned to Suakin Sudan

 

[NidarNidar]

The ancient Somalis are non existent, this can be proven by literal common sense
All Somalis are E-Y18629, 2600 years old the rest are T which entered 2000 years ago from Mesopatamia
Punt existed 4000 years ago

Also many famines happened in Somalia and natural disasters, there are towns which have been excavated in Puntland but no settlements there above them also Xaafuun was abandoned

That just dates it back to that split, until more genetic tests are done, they can push those dates further back, there are barely any archaeological digs in Somalia, luckily our ancestors dug taalos, we just need to dig and get some genetic material from the dead.

 

[Hilmaam]

There was a chinese war 2000 years ago that killed 20 million people

It’s estimated 13-36 million died

 

[HabarSteven12]

Uncommon HabarSteven W. Make more W comments like this & I'll start to believe we were really homeless adoons afterall

You are being a little bit harsh, my brother. Don't say we were homeless adoons. I am just calling out the outrageous and ludicrous claims made by Somali hoteps. These guys are really brainwashing Somalis with their intellectually dishonest statements. Next, we will see Somalis claiming they once colonized Makkah. As a result, we will be in tension with every community by falsely claiming we once conquered their lands.

 

[HabarSteven12]

Somalis conquered Mozambique and established a colony in Sofala where for gold excavations, Adal spanned to Suakin Sudan

What an outrageous and laughable claim! There isn't any concrete evidence to suggest that Somalis conquered Mozambique and established a colony in Somalia. Arab Faqih makes it clear that Ethio-Semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. He also makes it clear that the sedentary agriculturalist population of Harar provided both the leadership in the jihadic war and that they were the majority of the fighters, at least during the early days of the jihad.

 

[attash]

What an outrageous and laughable claim! There isn't any concrete evidence to suggest that Somalis conquered Mozambique and established a colony in Somalia. Arab Faqih makes it clear that Ethio-Semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. He also makes it clear that the sedentary agriculturalist population of Harar provided both the leadership in the jihadic war and that they were the majority of the fighters, at least during the early days of the jihad.

You're like one of those annoying talking toys that I couldn't figure out how to turn off

 

[Bazed]

Somalis had a good thing going. We were the medieval equivalent of drop shippers, trading high quality items for Roman gold. We then moved on to trade with our Muslim brothers. Even the catholics were indebted to us because we helped provide the incense they needed. Did we conquer land? Yes but it was localized to the horn of Africa. I think we get too hung up on conquest, the greatness of a civilization is found during the peace times. Pax Romana is a good example.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

I know we conquered up to south eastern Africa in Mozambique, Maldives, to Sudan but that's it? Other empires conquered way way way huger lands and united all of their people, when compared with other empires, our empires look so miniscule?
I think there is a lot of taariikh being hidden because why couldn't we achieved this? I've never even seen a single empire with huge land
Done some digging and found out we conquered a crazy place, if that's being hidden I wonder what else?
Any other places we've colonized?

I heard we conquered Yemen but I need more sources, there's a lost Somali clan on the Adan coast with a large piece of land so who knows if they were a result of our conquest?

Somalis conquered basically the whole Horn under Adal and economically dominated the Swahili Coast and had cities like Sofala mining gold from inland Africa. There was also a Somali ruler in the Maldives named Abd al-Aziz of Mogadishu. As for Southern Arabia we did conquer Aden and settled there for a while.

“According to Ibn Al-Mujawir, they were expelled by the Berbera, i.e. people of Somali stock, who then conquered Aden and the valley; afterwards, a period of decline and ruin followed until new settlers appeared, coming from Siraf.”
Source:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4056515?seq=13

There wasn’t much to conquer around us due to geographical restraints and lack of drive due it not being worth it. The only place I can think of where Somalis actively tried conquering is the Horn, everything else just seemed like circumstance tbh. We are mostly a peaceful merchant trading nation kinda thing but I prefer that it’s more interesting.

 

[The alchemist]

The ancient Somalis are non existent, this can be proven by literal common sense
All Somalis are E-Y18629, 2600 years old the rest are T which entered 2000 years ago from Mesopatamia
Punt existed 4000 years ago

Also many famines happened in Somalia and natural disasters, there are towns which have been excavated in Puntland but no settlements there above them also Xaafuun was abandoned

Ever heard about founder effect and bottleneck? Some basic literacy is needed if people are going to mention haplogroups.

 

[Hilmaam]

africa been bheind population wise but catching up who knows if it will be good or bad

 

[Bazed]

africa been bheind population wise but catching up who knows if it will be good or bad
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Every time I hear Africa's coming population boom it's always followed by Westerns complaining about over population. What are they planning?

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Every time I hear Africa's coming population boom it's always followed by Westerns complaining about over population. What are they planning?

They’re dying out while everyone else is booming and settling in their lands. London and Sweden today has mostly foreign citizens and will continue to be like this. Countries like Italy and Spain and getting hit with illegal migrants coming from the sea like the Lampadusa incident. The West is falling in native fertility rates and rising in degeneracy.

 

[Bazed]

They’re dying out while everyone else is booming and settling in their lands. London and Sweden today has mostly foreign citizens and will continue to be like this. Countries like Italy and Spain and getting hit with illegal migrants coming from the sea like the Lampadusa incident. The West is falling in native fertility rates and rising in degeneracy.

Can't say it isn't their fault. They wanted all those lands, now they'll have to deal with the fallout. It's only the first 2 generations of immigrants that produce a lot of kids, after that it evens itself out. Europe as a whole reminds me of echoes of Rome in its fall, they got too comfortable in their empire and after devastating wars they've suffered the horrific fallout.