What is it that you love about being Somali?

[Grimmer]

We fear nothing about being who we are, and how it’s in our nature to take care one another(outside of rural areas).

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[dhaxabaay]

Guuntinos and dahaab

 

[Gracias]

Everything. I love that we’re brave and not cowardly. I love being able to rely on random Somali strangers.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

The food, language, culture, hospitality, the banter, our looks and the diverse landscape.

 

[Rayaale]

One thing I love about Somalinimo is how much we help each other no matter what

 

[Xareen]

I do think a case can be made for us being descended from actual Old Kingdom Egyptians. Somalis' Y-DNA E-Z813 subclade is from 2300 BCE and is shared with two Nablusi Palestinians, a Sudani and an Upper Egyptian. If it was originally an Egyptian lineage that moved into Nubia rather than an early Nubian lineage that came from Egypt during the Predynastic period then we may very well have still been experiencing gene-flow and intermixture from Upper Egypt as late as nearly 1,000 years after their civilization surfaced.

But either way what you suspect is a given, I think, and I cover this in the post. Lots of evidence to support that we are descended at least from Predynastic Egyptians who intermixed with a Dinka-like group or an earlier mix of Prehistoric Egyptian and Dinka-like in Nubia and Sudan. More for another time/the post on that, though.

How do you reconcile our complete lack of ANF? And the lack of cultural continuity? Pre-proto-Egyptian is what makes the most sense to me.

 

[Shimbiris]

How do you reconcile our complete lack of ANF? And the lack of cultural continuity? Pre-proto-Egyptian is what makes the most sense to me.

We definitely have ANF, even outside of our Arabian ancestry. It’s just being muddied by how G25 has a hard-on for Natufian in pretty much all groups with significant ANA like us and Arabians.

Horner mtDNA at the very least makes it plain there’s something Anatolian at play. We also wouldn’t fit so well with that Old Kingdom sample in those models I’ve seen y’all throw around if we lacked it.

I’ve knocked it many a time for good reasons but in this respect I have to say that qpAdm is probably in the right for skewing us more toward Neolithic Levantines and other such later samples.

 

[Midas]

How do you reconcile our complete lack of ANF? And the lack of cultural continuity? Pre-proto-Egyptian is what makes the most sense to me.

You have to realize the Sinai penisula before the domestication of the donkey was essentially impassable. Thats why even though it took 4,000 years for anatolian farmers to cross all of Europe and arrive in Morocco. It was those mixed anatolia farmer/berbers that brought agriculture to eygpt before anybody else.

It's why that old kingdom sample only had 20% of its ancestry traces back to Mesopotamia and the Levant