Shabab would siege Xamar and Kismaayo like they do in Diinsoor within the week after AMISOM leaves, it'd be 2011 again
We will negotiate with alshabab, says president of Somalia HSM.
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Somalia is not in a position of power for years. We could curb down Al-shabaab by utilising Mukhtsr Roobow. A lot of soldiers come from his clan. There is religious extremism in Somalia but Al-shabaab today has power due to qabyaalad. Entice the footsoldiers with money, khat, whatever it takes. Shabaab soldiers are not the same as Taliban. They lack the same level of religious fight in them. Al-shabaab would have crumbled in a day if Somalia faced a drop of what happened in Afghanistan.
Somalia will not fight Al-shabaab for a while. Our military is basically clan militia in hiding. If America can negotiate with Taliban, so can we with the kebabs.
Somalia will not fight Al-shabaab for a while. Our military is basically clan militia in hiding. If America can negotiate with Taliban, so can we with the kebabs.
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Why can't we just identify every shabaab operative. If it is true that the UAE is giving the current fgs admin acces to pegasus (spy software), we can identify all the little AS worker ants and kill 'm all.
No mercy to showcase that the feds are more brute that AS when it comes to traitorous acts like joining AS. Make them more afraid of us than them. Leave them no other choice than to fight with the feds against AS.
Flip the their populations and you have a winning recipe. No negotiations needed. Just get it done.
Find the target and drop bricks on that tuulo from high up the sky. The gravity will do it's work and bombard these people to smithereens.
Anything but negotiating with these lowlife scumbag.
If captured alive kill them on a public square in the middle of xamar to showcase dominance.
These fuckers are the root cause of diik kar for millions of somalis
No mercy to showcase that the feds are more brute that AS when it comes to traitorous acts like joining AS. Make them more afraid of us than them. Leave them no other choice than to fight with the feds against AS.
Flip the their populations and you have a winning recipe. No negotiations needed. Just get it done.
Find the target and drop bricks on that tuulo from high up the sky. The gravity will do it's work and bombard these people to smithereens.
Anything but negotiating with these lowlife scumbag.
If captured alive kill them on a public square in the middle of xamar to showcase dominance.
These fuckers are the root cause of diik kar for millions of somalis
Your right but they legit have no leverage rn AS is fine with playing the long game and waiting till AMISOM leaves.
You haven't told a lie lkn Somalia is militarily backed well by western forces, all it could take get rid of AS leadership is an efficient government which collects intel on AS leaders strongholds etc and co-ordinate drone strikes. just a thought
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Quite the Islamist.
Those tuulos belong to people. There are civilians that reside there now and always did. They didnt abandon their tuulos just like reer Mog/Kismayo . Bombarding is just borderline reckless and inhumane. Bloodless agreement with AS is the best way forwardWhy can't we just identify every shabaab operative. If it is true that the UAE is giving the current fgs admin acces to pegasus (spy software), we can identify all the little AS worker ants and kill 'm all.
No mercy to showcase that the feds are more brute that AS when it comes to traitorous acts like joining AS. Make them more afraid of us than them. Leave them no other choice than to fight with the feds against AS.
Flip the their populations and you have a winning recipe. No negotiations needed. Just get it done.
Find the target and drop bricks on that tuulo from high up the sky. The gravity will do it's work and bombard these people to smithereens.
Anything but negotiating with these lowlife scumbag.
If captured alive kill them on a public square in the middle of xamar to showcase dominance.
These fuckers are the root cause of diik kar for millions of somalis
People here seem to forget Al-shabaab issue is tied to same issue why Somalia does not progress; Qabyaalad.
Somalias military is a glorified ragtag clan militia, its not going to defeat Al-shabaab. What needs to be done is use local people/ groups to defeat Al-shabaab.
What Somalia can do now is weaken Al-shabaab financially. Secure Muqdisho and Kismaayo so they canât extort people and export charcoal. This canât be that hard. These two moves will significantly cripple Al-shabaab.
Somalias military is a glorified ragtag clan militia, its not going to defeat Al-shabaab. What needs to be done is use local people/ groups to defeat Al-shabaab.
What Somalia can do now is weaken Al-shabaab financially. Secure Muqdisho and Kismaayo so they canât extort people and export charcoal. This canât be that hard. These two moves will significantly cripple Al-shabaab.
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Not as easy as you think. If Al Kebab was a group of 50 dudes with a known address, theyâd be all killed and that would be end of story.
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Theyâre a religious movement and people who canât read and write love them. On top of that, theyâve fully infiltrated the government
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Good idea but why do you think this hasnât been done?
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Afghanistan style government. Islamist poverty state
You need to understand that AS is an mercenary group.
There is no negotiating with a so called leader when he isn't even in charge.
We can't militarily win from the unfriendly nations bankrolling AS.
The only thing left is to take the population away from them.
Leave them without civilian casualties (because that is what they are counting on) is exactly what they want. If the people fear the gov more for a small period we can get rid of them. Declare them free to kill and get it over with.
How americans lynch blacks we should lynch AS. Since they destabilise their own nation. Bunch of spineless traitorous.
They are hindering our state building which in turn is hindering Somaliweyn.
The political/ business elite are fucking useless and also foreign meddling. Al-shabaab is overhyped ragtag militia past its glory.
Existence of the âAl-shabaabâ is a pure money making scheme. It starts with America engaging against Al-shabaab. War on terror is lucrative, Trump did us a favour by removing the troops, but fucking Biden sent them back.
We have the Xalane base, whose employees get paid the highest of all UN outpost. More then 100 thousand for sitting inside a tent doing f*ck all.
Then we have the Amisom, which is the most obvious one. Damn Burundi, a gaajo country depends on the money given to its soldiers who send the money back. Uganda too, but I donât think Museveni doesnât want the troops back, fearing a military coup. Same with other countries too.
Then we have the locals, scum of the earth. Pure corruption. They have no power. They latch on the money âdonatedâ to them by foreign countries. Inaa la dilo waaye dadkaas.
All in all, the stakeholders benefit financially too much for this situation to change. Even Al-shabaab. They getting that money too.
Somalia today is a place to get some money by screwing over 99.99% of the population.
Jubbalands had a grip on that for years btw AS banned charcoal cutting in their territories a year or two back.
Xamar is the bulk of their revenue. One of the few good things that come from a Benadir state would be youâd actually have an admin intrested in the revenue for itself.
If you own a business and donât pay tax to Al Shabab, you will get killed. How can Benadir state stop that?
Easily, fortify the security and guarantee that people would be safe, there is just no will at the moment to execute a good security policy.
One assassin is all that is needed. They will just come and shoot the business owner and escape. What you would need to do is dimantle Al Shababâs entire network inside Mogadishu and reduce their manpower. That isnât easy.
It is if you keep record of any shabaab operative and execute them. Make it taboo to over work for them and the people will stop paying.
We should have their backs patrolling the streets and using data searches whilst patrolling. Anyone who has data that has AS written in it will be arrested.
And then give the youth jobs, ideally construction etc and cleaning/ picking up garbage.
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