Was Siad Barre a Non-Muslim?

[TekNiKo]

I just posted the proof. Are you that dense?

A fake book quote with no paragraph. Fake news, I wanna hear the recording of Siad Barre saying that in person

 

[TekNiKo]

@Gibiin-Udug None of this is first hand evidence of disbelief the religion takes calling others nonbelievers quite seriously I wouldn’t suggest adding that to your list of wrongdoings.

That includes you @TekNiKo Sabrina isn’t gaal from anything i’ve seen.

Marrying a non muslim man automatically makes one kaafir.

 

[Crow]

Marrying a non muslim man automatically makes one kaafir.

And slaughtering scores of sheikhs, not to mention thousands of civilians, doesn't? Thanks for your input grandpa terror.

 

[sheed-dheer4ever]

He wanted to change the verses of the Quran, he built churches in Muqdisho, alcohol was openly consumed. He killed the 10 sheikhs who questioned him.

Was he even a Muslim?


Here's some expert of the book called The Suicidal State in Somalia: The Rise and Fall of the Siad Barre Regime, 1969–1991

Addressing a 1000-strong crowd in the Konis Stadium, his speech was a confrontational in the sense that Islam was framed as something that could hardly intermingle with modernity of the day. Given that his education and understanding of the world religions were little, Siad Barre invented in his speech a fiction follower of Prophet Muhammad to widen his declaration by claiming that the Koran was contradictory. Using with sarcasm language against Islam, he contended that the Somali Society could not rely upon two wealthy men, Guuleed Bin Ubeyd and Lord scott, who protected their wealth through religion. Ironically, both bin Ubeyd and Scott were non-existent characters, though they could be found in the Presedent's dictionary. He continued to say, with very contentious tongue, that Islam was solely intended for 'barbaric Arabs'.



He challenged his audience whether they were ready to be slaves forever. By slaves, he seemed to suggest that the Somali masses had been enslaved by Islam. 'How can hungry person would respect a religion; if the person is a woman, she would strip herself of naked, because she has a right to live'. Thus he stressed that the food of the self was better than the belief of a religion.


He thought Islam was enslaving Somalia and he wanted to free it.

Which churches did he build and who wrote this book?

 

[Removed]

Marrying a non muslim man automatically makes one kaafir.

And slaughtering scores of sheikhs, not to mention thousands of civilians, doesn't? Thanks for your input grandpa terror.

Well don’t mind me this is clearly FKD between MJ/MX and I want nothing to do with it

 

[TekNiKo]

And slaughtering scores of sheikhs, not to mention thousands of civilians, doesn't? Thanks for your input grandpa terror.

No, that is major sin not kufr. Learn your diin.

 

[Crow]

No, that is major sin not kufr. Learn your diin.

Teach me more grandpa terror!

Are praying to Jesus and mocking the Quran also major sins and not kufaarnimo?

 

[hussein]

He was a gaal. Alxamdulilah he died.

 

[Farm]

Only his orphans who he left behind on the Nigerian toilet will defend this.

 

[.279]

C'mon man

 

[Murax]

ليس كل من يقع في الكفر وقع الكفر عليه

Not everyone who does acts of disbelief is a disbeliever. I wonder how many people here don’t pray the 5 Salahs? That’s even more clear as far as leaving the religion. Who ever leaves Salah has disbelieved.

Btw whoever calls someone a kaafir, and the persons not it goes back on them as the hadith says. Especially when you’re talking about such a serious matter for FKD like the OP. What a loser lol.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

ليس كل من يقع في الكفر وقع الكفر عليه

Not everyone who does acts of disbelief is a disbeliever. I wonder how many people here don’t pray the 5 Salahs? That’s even more clear as far as leaving the religion. Who ever leaves Salah has disbelieved.

Btw whoever calls someone a kaafir, and the persons not it goes back on them as the hadith says. Especially when you’re talking about such a serious matter for FKD like the OP. What a loser lol.

Calling Islam an enslavement religion that enslaves Somalis is the biggest dambi.

Secondly nobody called kufaar, I asked a question because I'm wonder what kind of Muslim person says the things he said!

Our religion allows us to ask questions, go learn the religion.

Don't try to play the religion card, I'm more Muslim than you and your dictator uncle.

 

[Odkac WRLD]

Guys @Gibiin-Udug worded it in a question.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Guys @Gibiin-Udug worded it in a question.

Thank you!!!

I never made a statement. I questioned it and posted experts from a book about his life.

 

[Odkac WRLD]

Thank you!!!

I never made a statement. I questioned it and posted experts from a book about his life.

Idk why they chimping out.
They likely jumped straight into the material and didn’t read title.

 

[beerdilacshe]

Thank you @Crow for making it clear.
I put it in a question mark, when I mentioned both times asking if he was Muslim? I was shocked when I read the experts on the book.

please don't go that way of takfeerism at the end of the day only Allah knows who is who secondly everybody makes mistake siyad barre made some mistakes you have to know the context of everything at that time of the killing of those sheikhs there were uprising in every direction and don't be naive what a leader specially a dictator would do when he sees a threat to his seat look what saudi arabia is happening there are sheiks that were arrested for just saying that parting and clubs were haram when mbs allowed it and what did the so called ulumaa give fatwa like sheikh sudais and many saudi sheikh may Allah bless our king

 

[Murax]

Calling Islam an enslavement religion that enslaves Somalis is the biggest dambi.

Secondly nobody called kufaar, I asked a question because I'm wonder what kind of Muslim person says the things he said!

Our religion allows us to ask questions, go learn the religion.

Don't try to play the religion card, I'm more Muslim than you and your dictator uncle.

I’m not playing any card and my deeds are very little and I’m very lacking so ofcourse you’re more Muslim than me. But learning the Religion isn’t FKD on a forum but its Allah said, the prophet said, the sahaaba said. That’s ilm. I’m not gonna double down and keep making you say your intention is deen, and be a possible assesory to danbi if its not.I’ll leave you alone I don’t want to get in the way of you seeking ‘Islamic Ilm’ in this thread, cafis!

 

[Jiron]

Allahu Aclam

I hope the leaders and prominent figures of the previous generation asked for forgiveness because too many people have died and we all suffered in some way shape or form. None the less, it’s also important to forgive and always remember as it shall never happen again

 

[TheMadMullah]

And slaughtering scores of sheikhs, not to mention thousands of civilians, doesn't? Thanks for your input grandpa terror.

The sheikhs were terrorists and agents of foreign countries

 

[Tweiks]

And whoever kills a believer intentionally, their reward will be Hell—where they will stay indefinitely. Allah will be displeased with them, condemn them, and will prepare for them a tremendous punishment.

-Sura An-Nisa', Ayah 93


The hypocrites fear that a sûrah should be revealed about them, exposing what is in their hearts. Say,˺ “Keep mocking! Allah will bring to light what you fear.”

-Sura At-Tawbah, Ayah 64