Was Imam Ahmed A Madkhali?! Faris Al Hammadi

[Omar del Sur]

the only reason that ikhwani propaganda and its adherents can go around calling "Madkhali bootlickers" to people who refute ikhwani ideology.... and yet not call Imam Ahmed the same thing

the only reason, the only way.... is because they apply a double standard.... if they applied the same standard to Imam Ahmed it would expose them.... so therefore they are selective in applying their logic and conveniently don't follow its implications or they'd be calling Imam Ahmed a Madkhali bootlicker agent as well

 

[Omar del Sur]

 

[Hamzza]

the only reason that ikhwani propaganda and its adherents can go around calling "Madkhali bootlickers" to people who refute ikhwani ideology.... and yet not call Imam Ahmed the same thing

the only reason, the only way.... is because they apply a double standard.... if they applied the same standard to Imam Ahmed it would expose them.... so therefore they are selective in applying their logic and conveniently don't follow its implications or they'd be calling Imam Ahmed a Madkhali bootlicker agent as well

If Imam Ahmed was a Madkhali then nearly all the scholars imprisoned in Saudi Arabia are Madkhalis too. I don't know how a person can make such a dumb analogy. He literally shot himself in the foot.

I see many similarities between Sheikh Salah Al Taleb and Imam Ahlus Sunnah Ahmed bin Hanbal, they both were imprisoned and tortured by tyrannical rulers for refusing to obey them in deviance and degeneracy. But neither of them explicitly called for the removal of the ruler.

 

[Omar del Sur]

If Imam Ahmed was a Madkhali then nearly all the scholars imprisoned in Saudi Arabia are Madkhalis too. I don't know how a person can make such a dumb analogy. He literally shot himself in the foot.

I see many similarities between Sheikh Salah Al Taleb and Imam Ahlus Sunnah Ahmed bin Hanbal, they both were imprisoned and tortured by tyrannical rulers for refusing to obey them in deviance and degeneracy. But neither of them explicitly called for the removal of the ruler.

I'm not seeing your objection. According to the "anti-Madkhali" logic, Imam Hanbal would have been a "Madkhali". That is what the video is referring to.

 

[Omar del Sur]

If Imam Ahmed was a Madkhali then nearly all the scholars imprisoned in Saudi Arabia are Madkhalis too. I don't know how a person can make such a dumb analogy. He literally shot himself in the foot.

I see many similarities between Sheikh Salah Al Taleb and Imam Ahlus Sunnah Ahmed bin Hanbal, they both were imprisoned and tortured by tyrannical rulers for refusing to obey them in deviance and degeneracy. But neither of them explicitly called for the removal of the ruler.

btw is there even any actual proof that he got arrested for talking against concerts or something?? okay they show a clip of him talking about concerts or haraam stuff... but where is the actual proof they arrested him for that.... they could just as easily show a clip of him talking about wudu and say Saudi is arresting people for discussing wudu

 

[Omar del Sur]

@Hamzza wait... am I understanding correctly... is he attacking the government from the mimbar?????? Was Imam Hanbal giving sermons against the government?

if I was running a country and they gave a sermon against me from the mimbar I'd arrest them too. if you want to give an anti-government sermon from the mimbar I don't think you should cry afterwards when they arrest you. I don't believe in having to play by the rules of liberal democracy.

 

[Hamzza]

@Hamzza wait... am I understanding correctly... is he attacking the government from the mimbar?????? Was Imam Hanbal giving sermons against the government?

if I was running a country and they gave a sermon against me from the mimbar I'd arrest them too. if you want to give an anti-government sermon from the mimbar I don't think you should cry afterwards when they arrest you. I don't believe in having to play by the rules of liberal democracy.

Is condemning liberalism an attack on the government? Is that a way of admitting that the current government of Saudi Arabia promotes degeneracy in the bilad of Haramayn?

Yes Quran memorization ceremonies and the Adans in our Masjids will eventually defeat Western degeneracy. I'm sure about that.

وقل جاء الحق وزهق الباطل إن الباطل كان زهوقا

 

[Hamzza]

There is no difference between Imam Ahmed and Sheikh Salah Al Taleb they both spoke against and refused to accept what they saw as a danger to Islam and as a result of that were imprisoned

 

[Omar del Sur]

Is condemning liberalism an attack on the government? Is that a way of admitting that the current government of Saudi Arabia promotes degeneracy in the bilad of Haramayn?

Yes Quran memorization ceremonies and the Adans in our Masjids will eventually defeat Western degeneracy. I'm sure about that.

وقل جاء الحق تزهق الباطل إن الباطل كان زهوقا

see having to take this dishonest approach just shows and that you and the ikhwani outlets that circulated this are wrong.

I'm all for giving sermons against liberalism and sins or whatever. but if you're in a country that is not a liberal democracy, it's a Muslim country and you go give a sermon against the government and you get arrested.... I don't have any intention of crying for you.

I think you and all the ikhwanis should have just been honest and said he got arrested for giving a sermon against the government.

am I not understanding English?

"O luxuries, you are spending people's money on your frivolous programs without right and without benefit".

ok so who is YOU and YOUR referring to???? who is the YOU in this sentence?

like I said, if I take power and people give sermons against me I plan on arresting them too.

 

[Omar del Sur]

There is no difference between Imam Ahmed and Sheikh Salah Al Taleb they both spoke against and refused to accept what they saw as a danger to Islam and as a result of that were imprisoned

if there's no difference then post the video where Imam Ahmed is giving a sermon against the government from the mimbar.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I know people with your mindset think I see things like this because I'm a big fan of MBS or whatever... you don't know my real agenda... my real agenda is biryani. I want to eat biryani in peace without bombs exploding because we have people giving sermons against the government from the mimbar.

 

[Omar del Sur]