They already have a country, it's called The NetherlandsThis is why Afrikaners are trying to establish a homeland (Volkstaat) in Western Sth Africa.
They tried to do this right when apartheid was collapsing but Mandela promised no reprisals against Afrikaners. However, in recent years, they've been circling back to the idea.
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Also: It is important to make the distinction between Afrikaners and European Sth Africans.
The European Sth Africans (British, Greeks, Jewish etc) and Afrikaners have a long hostile history, as many European Sth Africans were hostile towards apartheid as it imposed Afrikaner supremacy on the former British colonialists.
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Apollo
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They are only 60% of Dutch origin. The rest is French Huguenot and German with a little bit of Portuguese and Scandinavian.
Also, their language is nothing like Dutch anymore. It diverged into a new language, much more so than American English or Latino Spanish did.
Lastly, the Netherlands is extremely overpopulated. They couldn't take back millions of them.
The reason why private security has become a big business is not due to crime necessarily.
During apartheid, every race was separated, with the cadaans obviously being in the more wealthier neighbourhoods and the Africans/Indians/Coloureds residing in glorified slums in comparison.
The police used to enforce the law in the white suburbs, to keep other races out as well as to protect their safety but left the townships ungoverned.
When apartheid ended, the police became spread too thin and there was nothing stopping crime spreading to other parts of the city.
Just my two cents.
I know, i was trying to counter the argument that says more madow= more crime when infact it's not true at all.
Many crimes are also committed by coloureds though. Another interesting stats that i found
Coloureds are over represented in jails. Cape coloreds are predominantly non black and can range from 50% african(most of which is khoisan) to as little as 30 or 20. The rest is white , indian and other asian
They commit much more crimes than bantus
Apollo
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I know, i was trying to counter the argument that says more madow= more crime when infact it's not true at all.
Many crimes are also committed by coloureds though. Another interesting stats that i found
Coloureds are over represented in jails. Cape coloreds are predominantly non black and can range from 50% african(most of which is khoisan) to as little as 30 or 20. The rest is white , indian and other asian
They commit much more crimes than bantus
I think a more fair comparison would be between urban Bantus vs urban Coloureds.
A big portion of South Africa's Bantus live in quiet rural areas, which would not induce criminogenic behavior, while a larger portion of coloureds live in urban areas.
I'm just joking though.They are only 60% of Dutch origin. The rest is French Huguenot and German with a little bit of Portuguese and Scandinavian.
Also, their language is nothing like Dutch anymore. It diverged into a new language, much more so than American English or Latino Spanish did.
Lastly, the Netherlands is extremely overpopulated. They couldn't take back millions of them.
If i have to be serious I think whites belong to Southafrica just like like black people. It's their country too but they need to stop acting as the victim when in reality they still have all the economic power and have the best quality of life. If black and white southafricans were united they would defeat corruption once and for all. Corruption is fueled by ethnic divisions, many black people would vote any corrupt ANC guy just because they feel like a white president would mean going back to apartheid, on the other hand whites would never vote for the ANC because they think all ANC politicians want to kill them. Current president Ramaphosa is trying to improve the country, the fact they arrested Zuma for contempt of court shows how much Southafrica is maturing even though we don't see it. Apartheid Southafrica would never incarcerate their most popular guy for the sake of justice, but modern SA has the rule of law.
elite1337
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Finally someone who gets it
we truly was kangz!White southafricans should be grateful for Mandela, he is the only reason why civil ear didn't happen. Right now it's mostly black police officers who are protecting people of every race. Immagine a White police officers defending black people 30 years ago, it would be impossibile.
We should also look at how media is portraying this. When they attacked innocent somalis, ethiopians, nigerians etc nobody cared but as soon as white and indians are threatened people talk about it. Violence is wrong no matter who is the victim.
i understand that somalis are angry about what happened to our people in SA but jumping on the anti black bandwagon is stupid
We should also look at how media is portraying this. When they attacked innocent somalis, ethiopians, nigerians etc nobody cared but as soon as white and indians are threatened people talk about it. Violence is wrong no matter who is the victim.
i understand that somalis are angry about what happened to our people in SA but jumping on the anti black bandwagon is stupid
Apollo
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There are millions of whites and Indians in South Africa. Only a few thousand Somalis and Ethiopians in South Africa.
PS. Now that you have mentioned and reminded me that South African Bantus attack Somalis I am honestly getting even more sympathy for White South Africans loooooooooool
KobeBryant
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@Apollo what’s your thoughts on those South African boys who came up 3.6 billion on that crypto hit https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ers-vanish-and-so-does-3-6-billion-in-bitcoin
South Africa is so low IQ they can’t even prosecute the guys.
South Africa is so low IQ they can’t even prosecute the guys.
Botswana has the highest development index in africa and is about the same as Ukraine which had at least 1000 years more development. Botswana managed to catch up in just 50 years.Yeah honestly I do understand. You know I know rich ass white men in Canada who left because taxes got too high and now they take advantage of poor people and exploit resources in Botswana. I was just joking, I truly understand their frustration. What I don’t understand though, is how black slaves built half of America and apparently because of inflation all the shit they did would be worth 1+ trillion of the US economy today which is insane. Blacks also built a lot of beautiful historical buildings as slaves too. So why can’t blacks put in the same efforts in building up the continent instead of letting the whites and Chinese dominate their economy while they still live in poverty? Make it make sense!!! Wallahi we’re only productive when we’re forced to do shit( no I’m not saying slavery should happen again chilllllll
) but we really need to get it together... looting and doing animalistic sexually frustrated baboon in a zoo shit is not gonna help us
How did they do it? Simple. Botswana is one of the few countries that was pretty much ignored by European colonialism, the British occupied it but thought it waa a useless colony. Once Botswana got it's independence they found diamonds , with the strong native leadership they managed to develop a thriving economy and develop their country from a desert to a respectable nation.
That's what happens when imperialism doesn't interfere.
Another example
In the 80s Burkina Faso under Thomas Sankara vaccinated most of it's population, raised litteracy from 13% to over 70% in 4 years, gave safe water and food access to all citizens etc. Guess what happened to Sankara? He was murdered by a commando of rebels financed by France and the US.
I wouldn't be surprised if somalis got murdered at a higher rate than white SA. It's not just about the numbers.
Anyway white boers would do the same if they had the same living conditions.
Apollo
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@Apollo what’s your thoughts on those South African boys who came up 3.6 billion on that crypto hit https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ers-vanish-and-so-does-3-6-billion-in-bitcoin
South Africa is so low IQ they can’t even prosecute the guys.
Overseas Indians in black countries behave like Jews.
Dude come on.
White South Africans used to have nuclear bombs. They would easily win a serious race based civil war.
First of all you Can't use a nuclear bomb in a civil war for obvious reasons. You should remember that it's not the 1800s anymore. Black people have the army, police and control much of the state apparatus. They are also more numerous and they also have weapons. If white southafricans had any chance of winning a civil war they would have never accepted to free Mandela. Apartheid ended not just because if sanctions but also because white politicians knew they couldn't win a civil war
KobeBryant
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3.6 billion is too much manOverseas Indians in black countries behave like Jews.
no naxariis. To add insult to injury they called the business “Africrypt”.
Apollo
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All the top military dudes in the early 1990s South Africa were white people due to the apartheid regime. They would have all the military know-how. How else could they have managed to dominate a majority population for decades?
If a serious civil war erupted in South Africa briefly after apartheid, the whites would win easily. If one erupts now, it is 50/50, but in the 90s, definitely the whites would have won.
Not sure about that
In my opinion it would have been 50/50 in the 1990s, now it's 70/30 for black people.
Southafrica could have resisted sanctions a bit more, if they knew they could win a civil war they would have done so maybe by forming their own country in western cape. They didn't cause they were outnumbered and blacks weren't just armed with spears like in the 1800s. Right now if whites had any chance of overpowering SA government they would do it immediately but the truth is they can't.
Apollo
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It is not about raw numbers. It is about technological know-how and financial resources. Look at how tiny Israel managed to keep the hordes of Arabs in check, even when neighboring Arab countries started to attack it.
The reason why white South Africans gave up on apartheid was due to BDS (economic boycotts) and mounting international pressure. The 90s were not socially that different from today, they couldn't sustain the stigma of running a racist system. It wasn't because they couldn't win militarily from black South Africans.
