Turkey Coup

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VixR

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China has a decent economy but is repressive as hell compared to the west, sorry but some of us like to have freedom along with better economies you dont have to risk one for the other. Its not an either or, during Siyads rule some of us were better off some where not but that didnt change that it was a repressive government. See how that works

You're a fan of slapmaster Hitch, too?
 
Secular factions of the military-Democratic vs. Islamist government-Authoritan Dictatorship

Would be good to see who wins out.
 
China has a decent economy but is repressive as hell compared to the west, sorry but some of us like to have freedom along with better economies you dont have to risk one for the other. Its not an either or, during Siyads rule some of us were better off somewhere not but that didn't change that it was a repressive government. See how that works
it is a repressive government which had millions of its people including the Kurds came out in support of it. ok mate. clearly you know better than them because u spend time in Reddit.
 

Bahal

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China has a decent economy but is repressive as hell compared to the west, sorry but some of us like to have freedom along with better economies you dont have to risk one for the other. Its not an either or, during Siyads rule some of us were better off some where not but that didnt change that it was a repressive government. See how that works

Freedom

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You're pro coup? Why?
Cause Erdogan has lead the country to become more Islamic and incorporating church and state instead of separating it. He's also undone things that Ataturk has accomplished in making the country more secular. So far, he's against LGBT and becoming more in line with radicals instead of holding true to western countries and NATO.
 
From human rights watch
"In December, prosecutors produced evidence of corruption in Erdogan's government. Four ministers resigned, and, most damaging, an audiotape was leaked in which Erdogan apparently tells his son, on the morning that the corruption scandal broke, to remove large amounts of cash from their home and conceal it with relatives and associates. Erdogan has said vaguely that the recording, along with other incriminating leaked tapes, are "fake," a "montage," and part of a nebulous conspiracy to overthrow him, but he has failed to produce evidence to substantiate these claims."

Turkeys media is owned by conglomerates which are especially vulnerable economic retaliation and political pressure journalists many have been fired for reporting on his corruption. When people went to social media to get more news on the issue he shut down social media. etc

The list goes on
 

John Michael

Free my girl Jodi!
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From human rights watch
"In December, prosecutors produced evidence of corruption in Erdogan's government. Four ministers resigned, and, most damaging, an audiotape was leaked in which Erdogan apparently tells his son, on the morning that the corruption scandal broke, to remove large amounts of cash from their home and conceal it with relatives and associates. Erdogan has said vaguely that the recording, along with other incriminating leaked tapes, are "fake," a "montage," and part of a nebulous conspiracy to overthrow him, but he has failed to produce evidence to substantiate these claims."

Turkeys media is owned by conglomerates which are especially vulnerable economic retaliation and political pressure journalists many have been fired for reporting on his corruption. When people went to social media to get more news on the issue he shut down social media. etc

The list goes on

Turkey needs Murdoch and the NSA so they can truely be free. Foh
 

VixR

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Cause Erdogan has lead the country to become more Islamic and incorporating church and state instead of separating it. He's also undone things that Ataturk has accomplished in making the country more secular. So far, he's against LGBT and becoming more in line with radicals instead of holding true to western countries and NATO.
I don't think people are being objective here, but the blind favoritism is fairly understandable.
 
Turkey needs Murdoch and the NSA so they can truely be free. Foh
Deflection, I never said the west was perfect but stop acting like it is anywhere near what other people under repressive regimes are dealing with. When have journalists been fired for reporting or jailed stop making false equivalences to justify anything that happens in the Muslim world.
 

John Michael

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Lets not forget Al Shabab was on its last legs before Turkey suddenly decided to take an "interest" in Somalia now attacks have stepped up consistently

Let's not forget al shabab was 2 guys before the western led intervention!

Turkey isn't responsible for fixing Somalia but he has been the ONLY person to help.
 

John Michael

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Deflection, I never said the west was perfect but stop acting like it is anywhere near what other people under repressive regimes are dealing with. When have journalists been fired for reporting or jailed stop making false equivalences to justify anything that happens in the Muslim world.

How is that a deflection?

It's the truth and they don't need to be jailed when they never had the guts in the first place.
 
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