TOO MANY HENNESSY-Ravaged Geeljires dying in Canada. I put the blame squarely on their hooyo. These grown idiots eat & sleep at hooyos place

How can create a better and more robust community that helps and sticks up for each other. What does it require to change the status quo? Let's have some fruitful discussion enough with the negative talk.
Be a good and responsible husband/wife. Take care of your kids (they are our priority), be strict and teach them discipline. If every Somali focuses on their families and do their best then the community will improve as a whole.
 
That’s true, but there are girls who think they’re getting over the system by living in the projects, which are dirty, old and run down. They don’t understand that they’re raising children in the ghetto. How are you “finessing” a system that doesn’t care about you and will lead to worse life outcomes? How dumb is that?

They also make it easy for the husband to f around because he then won’t contribute to the household (as he doesn’t have to). This is stupid.
this is actually 100% true as well! They end up gaming themselves in effort to the game the system like those 2 morons with 700k bank accounts but collecting benefits in Minnesota smh
 
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Be a good and responsible husband/wife. Take care of your kids (they are our priority), be strict and teach them discipline. If every Somali focuses on their families and do their best then the community will improve as a whole.
These are simple and logical things two adults with kids should be able to do.. But unfortunately it seems we have too many broken families and maybe the root cause could be traced back to the civil war and the struggles our people have been through in combination with adjusting to a new culture and a new way of living.. I can just imagine the challenges are many.. Being a minority within a minority doesn't help either. Maybe we need to setup community counseling who can help families and make them perform better.
 
It's sad being a Somali
No it’s not because everyone have their problems...just some hide it better than others. And others overcome their struggles over time and better themselves. We’re fairly recent immigrant group and we’re still adjusting while dealing with a lot of limitations and emotional traumas from the war. We just have to acknowledged that because that’s the first step to solving any problem.
 
Being negative and talking negative of our community will only lead us to become self haters
No it’s not because everyone have their problems...just some hide it better than others. And others overcome their struggles over time and better themselves. We’re fairly recent immigrant group and we’re still adjusting whole dealing with limitations and tons of emotional trauma because of the war. We just have to acknowledged them, because that’s the first step to solving any problems.
We need to setup a community counsel that help, guide and advice our people on professional level instead of those useless Somali jaliyat where they drink shah all day and discuss qabiil.
 
Stop blaming somali parents for some idiots who chose to live as animals.

Facts, I knew a kid who had both parents present and was middle class( not poor or disadvantaged) yet he still got into gang life and ended up getting shot and killed at 21.

I think the main issue is that Somali parents are not as active or overbearing to Somali boys as they are to girls. Also media influence, most of these boys listen to rap and want to engage in the lifestyle bc its “cool”. And it is when ur like 15 and the law isn’t as harsh and there are less penalties, but after 21 you basically just look like a loser
 

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Once again, mirroring the madow men they claim to despise.

Somali women are probably the most loyal women on earth to their men imagine running after men who can’t even settle their little differences for more than 3 decades. Somali women need to change the culture it’s not benefitting us at all in fact it’s killing us everyday.
 
How can create a better and more robust community that helps and sticks up for each other. What does it require to change the status quo? Let's have some fruitful discussion enough with the negative talk.

Follow the deen. I mean properly, right down to giving your wife mahr at the nikkah.

Thing is Somali people think they can half ass everything and if they’re kids turn out fine than they did good.

In Islam when you start a family your responsibility as a man towards your child begins with choosing a good mother. Marrying a woman based on how light and young she is the average farax concern. Again if you do not commit Zina you will be pleased with your wife and not need to go looking for 2,3,4 ect

Somali women have a responsibility as mothers to closely care and breastfeed their children until 2. Popping out children back to back and letting them raise each other is wrong. Abusing your daughters, calling them names whilst not disciplining your sons is evil. It’s an epidemic with hooyos sadly.

Honestly if they just followed the sunnah, were loving and kind to their kids even if they fell in the wrong path they would know they have supportive parents that and guide them back. Now once you’re not perfect Somalis label their kids ruined, stop them from seeing their sibling ect. Further giving them no choice but to continue that path.
 

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Brilliant polemic against fathers!

How are Somali fathers mostly the sole breadwinners of millions of house-holds across Africa, Asia, Middle-east and in between if they are mostly dead-beat dads.
what u conveniently fail to see is how as new immigrants needed time to adjust to the west and even highly skilled ones couldn't get a well paying job immediately making them depend on Public assistance until then.

Yes children with absent fathers are prone to all kind of social ills and psychological defects but most fathers don't just abandon their kids.
it may be that some women lured by a welfare that incentivizes single motherhood and sets threshold for married couples start to marginalize the father or engage in toxic behavior leading to an eventual break up that affects everyone in the family.

edit: this is a case for early immigrants; the progenitors of the now adult so called gang-bangers and druggies, not for born or raised in the west.
 
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Being negative and talking negative of our community will only lead us to become self haters

We need to setup a community counsel that help, guide and advice our people on professional level instead of those useless Somali jaliyat where they drink shah all day and discuss qabiil.
I've noticed that many groups (Hispanic, Asians and Jewish) have these community centers were they help new arrivals get acclimated to the area. They provide them with jobs/educational opportunities (who's hiring, who's the biggest employer in town, access/knowledge of educational vouchers or government funded training) and housing.

Our youth have too much unsupervised free time. People here were hating on snacks for trolling a dagax forum but I don't blame him.

If we had a conducive environment where they could have help with their school work to either catch up or get ahead, physical activities (soccer, basketball and etc) and technology training and safety, maybe he would've behaved differently.

Never forget the golden question " it's 10pm, do you know where your children are?"
 
I've noticed that many groups (Hispanic, Asians and Jewish) have these community centers were they help new arrivals get acclimated to the area. They provide them with jobs/educational opportunities (who's hiring, who's the biggest employer in town, access/knowledge of educational vouchers or government funded training) and housing.

Our youth have too much unsupervised free time. People here were hating on snacks for trolling a dagax forum but I don't blame him.

If we had a conducive environment where they could have help with their school work to either catch up or get ahead, physical activities (soccer, basketball and etc) and technology training and safety, maybe he would've behaved differently.

Never forget the golden question " it's 10pm, do you know where your children are?"

There’s thousands of community centres run by Somalis

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There’s thousands of community centres run by Somalis

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Exactly! And let’s face it, Somalis don’t ever think there’s anything wrong with us. If this forum is an indication of anything, it’s that we’d rather put our head in the sand and pretend that all is well.

How can you fix a problem that isn’t even “present?” You can’t and you don’t.

I mentioned before and I’ll say it again: Don’t live in areas full of Somalis. If Somalis live in the west side, move to the east. If Somalis live in the suburbs, move to the city. It’s the *only* way to preserve your sanity and the future of your children.
 

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Worst thing these parents do is send these ciyaal suuqs back home and they are married off to miskiin girls. :jcoleno:They don’t even change they start eating khat, other drugs and start illegal shit. A ciyaal suuq will always adopt to his surroundings. Sending em back home isn’t the solution but kicking them out and dealing with the decisions they’ve made. Our hoyo’s are soft that’s why you see 35 year old ciyaal suuqs eating at home and doing illegal shit on the road.
 
You're right, but how do we hold them accountable for their actions?

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You can't hold Somalis accountable in general because we are an extremely divided people. Such and such community centre represents (x region) but they get funds on behalf of all Somali children that live in the city. They don't care and have no conscious.
 

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