Time to negotiate with AS

If Cali Mahdi,Morgan and all the other warlords are allowed to live and participate in politics. Why can't the government negotiate with AS and make them 0.5 in the cursed 4.5 system? That way we can also make it 5 and ree baare will get more right and probably stop joining AS. Why should more innocent people die? when we can negotiate with AS just like US did with the Taliban.
"Aan wada hadalno waa aan heshiino" :fittytousand:
 

GemState

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We tried, when Sharif was President he told Godane(AS leader at the time) that he would remove all foreign troops from the country and impose Sharia law, and they still refused.

They don't think like normal people, you can't reason with a person who thinks they will go to Jannah for killing a doctor.
 

Mckenzie

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Only thing that is negotiable is whether they should be killed by firing squads or tortured to death.
 
We tried, when Sharif was President he told Godane(AS leader at the time) that he would remove all foreign troops from the country and impose Sharia law, and they still refused.

They don't think like normal people, you can't reason with a person who thinks they will go to Jannah for killing a doctor.
At that time they had many supporters and the Absame/Darood sheikhs made takfir on Shariif and his parliament. This time they don't have sheikhs or people who support them.
 

Tucking_Fypo

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Negotiate with who exactly AS or Their backers shiekh umal and others or maybe with hormud company and others or maybe those part of the government like fahad Yasin is AS amiir of ahmiyat or sharif leader of ICU,qorqor former 2nd in command of ICU for ex, AS is just the armed wing of these groups why negotiate with them?
 
negotiate with terrorist filth that have killed thousands of innocent somalis and have ruined the nations image? i want every single AS vermin and their funders to be burnt alive
 

Tucking_Fypo

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Negotiate with who exactly AS or Their backers shiekh umal and others or maybe with hormud company and others or maybe those part of the government like fahad Yasin is AS amiir of ahmiyat or sharif leader of ICU,qorqor former 2nd in command of ICU for ex, AS is just the armed wing of these groups why negotiate with them?
 
Negotiate with who exactly AS or Their backers shiekh umal and others or maybe with hormud company and others or maybe those part of the government like fahad Yasin is AS amiir of ahmiyat or sharif leader of ICU,qorqor former 2nd in command of ICU for ex, AS is just the armed wing of these groups why negotiate with them?
This should make it easier to negotiate. If Shariif became president why can't we negotiate with them?
 

Tucking_Fypo

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This should make it easier to negotiate. If Shariif became president why can't we negotiate with them?
Shariif was president and failed to negotiate with them for being seen as a traitor for using ICU for clanish reasons, he should have focused on negotiating with their spiritual leaders and financial backers instead. Right now with AS running NISA with their troops getting trained by turkey as the elite forces of SFG who took out ASWJ their biggest obstacle and with leader of AS nationalist wing that could have divided AS jailed by SFG (roobow). With only macawiisley fighters SFG don't recognize or support in their way don't see any incentives for AS come to negotiating table.
 

Yahya

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If Cali Mahdi,Morgan and all the other warlords are allowed to live and participate in politics. Why can't the government negotiate with AS and make them 0.5 in the cursed 4.5 system? That way we can also make it 5 and ree baare will get more right and probably stop joining AS. Why should more innocent people die? when we can negotiate with AS just like US did with the Taliban.
"Aan wada hadalno waa aan heshiino" :fittytousand:
They kill Muslims and smoke weed. You can't negotiate with them. They are khawarij western trained cells. Funny how they attack when farmaajo gathers a spine for once and cuts the Donors out of crucial info.

All terrorists came after the US and EU came to countries. Muslims never used to blow themselves up before these devils came.
 
This should make it easier to negotiate. If Shariif became president why can't we negotiate with them?
All the moderate terrorist like madoobe and robow defected when they realized AS does not have an end goal like the Taliban. I mean check out the the terrorist in SL and PL. they’re been chilling at the mountains for a fat min zero fuks giving.
 

Mckenzie

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They kill Muslims and smoke weed. You can't negotiate with them. They are khawarij western trained cells. Funny how they attack when farmaajo gathers a spine for once and cuts the Donors out of crucial info.

All terrorists came after the US and EU came to countries. Muslims never used to blow themselves up before these devils came.

They love TakBEER and TajWEED :damn:

alshabaab can be defeated with competent intelligence and strict laws. Killing 1 or 2 is great, but they are replaceable. Swift death penalties need to be handed out to deter anyone joining them. NISA need to invest in drones that wire tap phone conversations in hotly located areas. The government needs to set up an independent financial crimes investigation team that track ZAAD payments, weapons distributions, port deliveries etc. Routes to big cities, access controls and HQs need to be under higher surveillance. ID cards should also be a norm.

If there is no proactivity, the best we can do is weaken them gradually.
 

Tucking_Fypo

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They kill Muslims and smoke weed. You can't negotiate with them. They are khawarij western trained cells. Funny how they attack when farmaajo gathers a spine for once and cuts the Donors out of crucial info.

All terrorists came after the US and EU came to countries. Muslims never used to blow themselves up before these devils came.
Can't put all blames on foreign powers father of all evil Al-itihad Al-islamiya was beheading and blowing themselves 1991 long before AS,Hizbul-islam and Islamic courts got established or outside involvement took place.All these groups had clan agendas masquerading as islamists IC got involved when these groups brought Alqaida to Somalia and started threats to attack all neighboring countries.Today Somalia trained terrorists are fighting in Yemen Kenya Tanzania and mozambique.

the head and founder of all these groups was not put on trial or executed but instead got house arrest in a comfortable Villa with access to internet and mass media still spreading his vile ideology after hard lobbying from his clan makes any Calls for fighting AS or Calls for negotiating with AS not sincere TBH many southern clans are AS or use AS for their benefit, Sheikh Shariif and his followers all of sudden were not jihadists but nationalists when their clan got presidency never revailing the inner workings of the group, Hassan Sheikh refused to hand over ATOM the northern AS leader to PL to face trial, housed him instead until Qatar gave him asylum while Roobow who left AS with the nationalist elements of AS and fought them becoming biggest threat to their existence got locked up by SFG without trial and his fighters wanted by both SFG and AS. Nobody is serious about defeating AS don't expect negotiations or offensives against them.
 
All the moderate terrorist like madoobe and robow defected when they realized AS does not have an end goal like the Taliban. I mean check out the the terrorist in SL and PL. they’re been chilling at the mountains for a fat min zero fuks giving.
Wth is moderate terrorist :what:
 
They love TakBEER and TajWEED :damn:

alshabaab can be defeated with competent intelligence and strict laws. Killing 1 or 2 is great, but they are replaceable. Swift death penalties need to be handed out to deter anyone joining them. NISA need to invest in drones that wire tap phone conversations in hotly located areas. The government needs to set up an independent financial crimes investigation team that track ZAAD payments, weapons distributions, port deliveries etc. Routes to big cities, access controls and HQs need to be under higher surveillance. ID cards should also be a norm.

If there is no proactivity, the best we can do is weaken them gradually.
Nobody wants to defeat al shabab when they can use them to weaken other clans:manny:
 
Can't put all blames on foreign powers father of all evil Al-itihad Al-islamiya was beheading and blowing themselves 1991 long before AS,Hizbul-islam and Islamic courts got established or outside involvement took place.All these groups had clan agendas masquerading as islamists IC got involved when these groups brought Alqaida to Somalia and started threats to attack all neighboring countries.Today Somalia trained terrorists are fighting in Yemen Kenya Tanzania and mozambique.

the head and founder of all these groups was not put on trial or executed but instead got house arrest in a comfortable Villa with access to internet and mass media still spreading his vile ideology after hard lobbying from his clan makes any Calls for fighting AS or Calls for negotiating with AS not sincere TBH many southern clans are AS or use AS for their benefit, Sheikh Shariif and his followers all of sudden were not jihadists but nationalists when their clan got presidency never revailing the inner workings of the group, Hassan Sheikh refused to hand over ATOM the northern AS leader to PL to face trial, housed him instead until Qatar gave him asylum while Roobow who left AS with the nationalist elements of AS and fought them becoming biggest threat to their existence got locked up by SFG without trial and his fighters wanted by both SFG and AS. Nobody is serious about defeating AS don't expect negotiations or offensives against them.
Itihaad was majority darood and ICU was majority Hawiye right?
 
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