TikTok Sheikh claiming you can’t perform Janazah on a Muslim who never prayed.

[Capone]

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He provided 0 Quran verses/Hadith to back his claim up. Don’t you have to perform the Janazah and Bathing ritual on a person who was Muslim no matter how much his or her sins are?

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

TikTok shaykh loooool

 

[Reformed J]

There's the view point of those who neglect prayer are kafirs, not muslim

 

[Aurelian]

This is so un-sunnah, the moderate view on what gonna be the position of those muslims who don't pray was always "Allah's knows" and pray for him. And janazah was always done to all who accepted Islam and said alshahada

 

[Aurelian]

There's the view point of those who neglect prayer are kafirs, not muslim

It was the khawarij point of view. Strict, very strict. According to them if you done one of the kaba'ir your are automatically kafir, like not praying or didn't fast during Ramadan. P.S they also killed Ali ibn abi Talib for being kafir according to them because he done some mistake that they viewed as kuffr

 

[المهندس]

There's difference of opinion on this topic both sides have valid arguments.

 

[Hassan mahat]

He goes on to say in the next video, he didn’t visit the funeral of his relative because he didn’t use to pray.

imagine missing the death of your relative because they didn’t believe in your faith.

ironically, he is living in the west

 

[Amazonian]

Why would you even pray on someone who never prayed xiliguu caafimaad qabey?

 

[Hassan2000]

This is scary cuz i heard major scholars saying the one who doesnt pray is a kaffir

 

[Amazonian]

This is scary cuz i heard major scholars saying the one who doesnt pray is a kaffir

Prayer is what distinguishes us from others.

 

[Reformed J]

It was the khawarij point of view. Strict, very strict. According to them if you done one of the kaba'ir your are automatically kafir, like not praying or didn't fast during Ramadan. P.S they also killed Ali ibn abi Talib for being kafir according to them because he done some mistake that they viewed as kuffr

I've heard it from normal imams during friday sermons too, not just those salafi hobos. Forsaking ibadah, the 5 pillars, is kufr.

 

[Capone]

He goes on to say in the next video, he didn’t visit the funeral of his relative because he didn’t use to pray.

imagine missing the death of your relative because they didn’t believe in your faith.

ironically, he is living in the west

Some “scholars” are very delusional. Imagine missing your own relatives funeral.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

After the Shahadah the 5 daily prayers are the most important as a muslim. Being married to someone who doesn't pray is also reasonable grounds for divorce. If someone didn't want to pray to Allah SWT when they were alive why should believers pray Jazanah for them ?

it is not permissible for you to offer the funeral prayer for one who you know died not praying, because of the general meaning of the verses in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):“And never (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (hypocrites) who dies, nor stand at his grave. Certainly they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger, and died while they were Faasiqoon (rebellious, — disobedient to Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم)”

[al-Tawbah 9:84]

“It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allah’s forgiveness for the Mushrikoon, even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because they died in a state of disbelief)”

[al-Tawbah 9:113].

So the one who did not pray should not be washed or shrouded or the prayer offered for him, and he should not be buried in the Muslim graveyard, because he is a kaafir, as stated above.

 

[Hassan mahat]

After the Shahadah the 5 daily prayers are the most important as a muslim. Being married to someone who doesn't pray is also reasonable grounds for divorce. If someone didn't want to pray to Allah SWT when they were alive why should believers pray Jazanah for them ?

it is not permissible for you to offer the funeral prayer for one who you know died not praying, because of the general meaning of the verses in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):“And never (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (hypocrites) who dies, nor stand at his grave. Certainly they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger, and died while they were Faasiqoon (rebellious, — disobedient to Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم)”

[al-Tawbah 9:84]

“It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allah’s forgiveness for the Mushrikoon, even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because they died in a state of disbelief)”

[al-Tawbah 9:113].

So the one who did not pray should not be washed or shrouded or the prayer offered for him, and he should not be buried in the Muslim graveyard, because he is a kaafir, as stated above.

Here we go.

 

[Capone]

After the Shahadah the 5 daily prayers are the most important as a muslim. Being married to someone who doesn't pray is also reasonable grounds for divorce. If someone didn't want to pray to Allah SWT when they were alive why should believers pray Jazanah for them ?

it is not permissible for you to offer the funeral prayer for one who you know died not praying, because of the general meaning of the verses in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):“And never (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (hypocrites) who dies, nor stand at his grave. Certainly they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger, and died while they were Faasiqoon (rebellious, — disobedient to Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم)”

[al-Tawbah 9:84]

“It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allah’s forgiveness for the Mushrikoon, even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because they died in a state of disbelief)”

[al-Tawbah 9:113].

So the one who did not pray should not be washed or shrouded or the prayer offered for him, and he should not be buried in the Muslim graveyard, because he is a kaafir, as stated above.

Thanks for providing some evidence at least.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

Thanks for providing some evidence at least.

This is what the deen says and why its crucial to always pray your Salat. Don't listen to the phonies that give misinformation. Always do your research before forming an opinion on something.

 

[Aurelian]

After the Shahadah the 5 daily prayers are the most important as a muslim. Being married to someone who doesn't pray is also reasonable grounds for divorce. If someone didn't want to pray to Allah SWT when they were alive why should believers pray Jazanah for them ?

it is not permissible for you to offer the funeral prayer for one who you know died not praying, because of the general meaning of the verses in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):“And never (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (hypocrites) who dies, nor stand at his grave. Certainly they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger, and died while they were Faasiqoon (rebellious, — disobedient to Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم)”

[al-Tawbah 9:84]

“It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allah’s forgiveness for the Mushrikoon, even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because they died in a state of disbelief)”

[al-Tawbah 9:113].

So the one who did not pray should not be washed or shrouded or the prayer offered for him, and he should not be buried in the Muslim graveyard, because he is a kaafir, as stated above.

According to the Maliki and shafi'i madhabs he is not kafir

 

[Sloane Ranger]

According to the Maliki and shafi'i madhabs he is not kafir

Allah knows best. We should pray regardless to avoid being in this predicament. Only on judgement day will we find out the true verdicts on certain issues.

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

After the Shahadah the 5 daily prayers are the most important as a muslim. Being married to someone who doesn't pray is also reasonable grounds for divorce. If someone didn't want to pray to Allah SWT when they were alive why should believers pray Jazanah for them ?

it is not permissible for you to offer the funeral prayer for one who you know died not praying, because of the general meaning of the verses in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):“And never (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (hypocrites) who dies, nor stand at his grave. Certainly they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger, and died while they were Faasiqoon (rebellious, — disobedient to Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم)”

[al-Tawbah 9:84]

“It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allah’s forgiveness for the Mushrikoon, even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because they died in a state of disbelief)”

[al-Tawbah 9:113].

So the one who did not pray should not be washed or shrouded or the prayer offered for him, and he should not be buried in the Muslim graveyard, because he is a kaafir, as stated above.

Isn't someone who doesn't believe allah a disbeliever and can u explain how can someone who doesn't pray is disbeliever

 

[Sloane Ranger]

Isn't someone who doesn't believe allah a disbeliever and can u explain how can someone who doesn't pray is disbeliever

The belief is that praying Salat is the only way we worship Allah directly. But forfeiting this you are forfeiting your ties to Allah. That's the viewpoint but I am not calling anyone a gaal. It's not my place to make such declarations.