Thoughts on the Axumite Empire?

What is this hotepism lol. The vast majority of their Eurasian DNA is pre-Semitic in origin, they are essentially Semitized Agaws like someone else pointed out hence why Amharic and Tigrayan have major Cushitic influence on their languages. You also need to look at their Y-DNA, its E1b and not J1 like Yemenis. They didn't xoog any Cushites as they were literal Cushites themselves who eventually spoke Semitic languages.
Nah man. The scientific evidence is clear for all to see. There is Iron Age Arabian input with the Habesha and other similar groups. The Sabeans clearly colonised that part of the horn during the Iron Age 12th century BCE to 8th century BCE. Eritrean coast was the epicentre of this colonisation. The Arabian gene would later on down the centuries spill over to other groups like the Somalis who have it at 5-10%.
 
Nah man. The scientific evidence is clear for all to see. There is Iron Age Arabian input with the Habesha and other similar groups. The Sabeans clearly colonised that part of the horn during the Iron Age 12th century BCE to 8th century BCE. Eritrean coast was the epicentre of this colonisation. The Arabian gene would later on down the centuries spill over to other groups like the Somalis who have it at 5-10%.
I didn't at all deny that they had Arabian DNA. Its that South Arabian output that puts Amhara and Tigrayans 10-15% more Eurasian than us which is also why some Oromo look Habesha too. However, that doesn't mean they weren't Cushites lol
 
As for Aksum itself, they were easily the peak of Ethiopian civilization since after Zagwe dynasty, medieval Ethiopia literally had no notable cities or towns. Not only did the entire population lived in villages but the emperor and his court even lived in tents where they would move around from province to province meaning medieval Ethiopia didn't even have a capital so to speak. This only changed during the 17th century when Gondar was built and urbanization finally started increasing.

This is one of the reasons why the Ifatites and the Adalites with established cities were at a disadvantage for a long time because they could campaign inside Abyssinia and defeat their armies but still not be able to cut off the head of the snake because their Emperors kept moving around and had no capital to threaten or sack. It’s not until Imam Ahmed went all in and chased after their tents throughout the Horn that they were close to the brink of extinction.
 

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What is this hotepism lol. The vast majority of their Eurasian DNA is pre-Semitic in origin, they are essentially Semitized Agaws like someone else pointed out hence why Amharic and Tigrayan have major Cushitic influence on their languages. You also need to look at their Y-DNA, its E1b and not J1 like Yemenis. They didn't xoog any Cushites as they were literal Cushites themselves who eventually spoke Semitic languages.
You have no idea what hotepism is doqonyahow. Your idiotic Y-DNA point doesn't make sense as both Yemenis and Habesha have J and E-M35 lineages, and as a matter of fact Amhara have J at >30% rate. Cope with the fact they're 25-30% Yemeni genetic muwallads. Damot, Axum, etc. are all legacy products of Asian colonists.
 
You have no idea what hotepism is doqonyahow. Your idiotic Y-DNA point doesn't make sense as both Yemenis and Habesha have J and E-M35 lineages, and as a matter of fact Amhara have J at >30% rate. Cope with the fact they're 25-30% Yemeni genetic muwallads. Damot, Axum, etc. are all legacy products of Asian colonists.
Yemenis barely have any E1b you stooge. The J1 haplogroup peaks among them whereas Amhara and Tigrayan are mainly E1b. Its funny how you keep ignoring the fact that the rest of their Eurasian DNA is pre-Semitic.

Habesha are as much Yemeni descendants as Indians are Aryan descendants. Simple as that.
 

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Yemenis barely have any E1b you stooge. The J1 haplogroup peaks among them whereas Amhara and Tigrayan are mainly E1b. Its funny how you keep ignoring the fact that the rest of their Eurasian DNA is pre-Semitic.

Habesha are as much Yemeni descendants as Indians are Aryan descendants. Simple as that.
No amount of your twerking will make Yemeni muwallad grape babies Cushitic you cuck.
 
No amount of your twerking will make Yemeni grape babies Cushitic you cuck.
The only thing that isn't Cushitic about them is their language (which even then is Cushitic influneced). Culturally and genetically, they are objectively closer to Cushitic groups than they are to Yemenis. Hell, Somalis are closer to Yemenis than Habesha are culturally speaking lol.
 

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The only thing that isn't Cushitic about them is their language (which even then is Cushitic influneced). Culturally and genetically, they are objectively closer to Cushitic groups than they are to Yemenis. Hell, Somalis are closer to Yemenis than Habesha are culturally speaking lol.
And the 30% Yemeni DNA you want to gloss over nacas
 

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I've read Zeila and Berbera (as well as majority of North somalia) used to be partial or wholly part of Axum. Besides that I also read that around 12.000 or 120.000 men of Berber descent (ie somalis) took part in the invasion of Himyar / Hadramawt.

Can someone verify this?
 

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The Sabeans should’ve also settled in Northern Somalia & start up high cultured States like that of D’mt & civilise our barbaric ancestors.

Imagine a Carthaginian-style Somali-Arabian Kingdom dominating the Red Sea region.
Instead Somalis settled in Yemen and made whole cities with walls,kkk funny how reality is
 
I've read Zeila and Berbera (as well as majority of North somalia) used to be partial or wholly part of Axum. Besides that I also read that around 12.000 or 120.000 men of Berber descent (ie somalis) took part in the invasion of Himyar / Hadramawt.

Can someone verify this?
Yes, the kingdom of Aksum did control Zeila. In the third and fourth centuries A.D., the Ethiopian Kingdom of Axum was at the height of its powers and extended for a time over a considerable portion of south-western Arabia. It may be that Zeila, or Aulites as it was then called, was founded during this period, for Burton writes that it was "in its earliest ages dependent upon the Kingdom of Axum".

Zeila was rebuilt and revived in the 10th century by Arab immigrants from Yemen. The word Zeila is of Arabic origin. Al-Zaylaa or Zaila is a type of bead worn by women. The kingdom of Himyar also controlled Zeila for a significant period of history. Zeila and Sawakin represented the Arab state, the state of Himyar, and the wars between it and Aksum.

Little is known about the origins of Berbera. El Firuzabadi derives it, with great probability, from two Himyar chiefs of Southern Arabia. If Axum controlled Zeila for a significant period of time, it's plausible that they controlled Berbera as well due to its strategic location in international trade. Somalis didn't take part in the invasion of Himyar. Axum undertook a military expedition against Himyar and put an end to the persecution and killings of the believers of Isa(Peace be upon him).
 
They didn’t embrace Islam. Only the king did and maybe few individuals.
Usually, when a king embraces a different faith, his entire clan and people follow suit. This was the custom of ancient and medieval civilization. It's plausible that the overwhelming majority of the people of Aksum embraced Islam during the 7th century. They were led astray and apostatized when a different king took power after the death of king Najashi.
 

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Usually, when a king embraces a different faith, his entire clan and people follow suit. This was the custom of ancient and medieval civilization. It's plausible that the overwhelming majority of the people of Aksum embraced Islam during the 7th century. They were led astray and apostatized when a different king took power after the death of king Najashi.

Nope. He kept it hidden from the rest. Roman emperor had a similar faith. He tried to win the official over to Islam but when they found out that he was Muslim he quickly changed his stance and proclaimed that he was merely testing their Christian faith. It’s well known.
 
I've read Zeila and Berbera (as well as majority of North somalia) used to be partial or wholly part of Axum. Besides that I also read that around 12.000 or 120.000 men of Berber descent (ie somalis) took part in the invasion of Himyar / Hadramawt.

Can someone verify this?
No real proof from what I found. Nearly all the maps I've seen show no territory in northern Somalia so its probably Ethiopianist fiction.
 

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Yes, the kingdom of Aksum did control Zeila. In the third and fourth centuries A.D., the Ethiopian Kingdom of Axum was at the height of its powers and extended for a time over a considerable portion of south-western Arabia. It may be that Zeila, or Aulites as it was then called, was founded during this period, for Burton writes that it was "in its earliest ages dependent upon the Kingdom of Axum".

Zeila was rebuilt and revived in the 10th century by Arab immigrants from Yemen. The word Zeila is of Arabic origin. Al-Zaylaa or Zaila is a type of bead worn by women. The kingdom of Himyar also controlled Zeila for a significant period of history. Zeila and Sawakin represented the Arab state, the state of Himyar, and the wars between it and Aksum.

Little is known about the origins of Berbera. El Firuzabadi derives it, with great probability, from two Himyar chiefs of Southern Arabia. If Axum controlled Zeila for a significant period of time, it's plausible that they controlled Berbera as well due to its strategic location in international trade. Somalis didn't take part in the invasion of Himyar. Axum undertook a military expedition against Himyar and put an end to the persecution and killings of the believers of Isa(Peace be upon him).
What in the actual fuc-
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