Thought experiment: Al Shabab teleports to rural Texas

[Celery]

This sounds absurd but hear me out. Let’s say all of the Shabab fighters teleport over night from south Somalia to south Texas. They quickly take over rural communities and embed themselves in largely uninhabited area. Assume there are thousands of them and they teleport with all of their weapons and money.

The thought experiment will get much weirder. Assume the state of Texas is very politically divided and broke like Somalia. Does Shabaab spread out and take Austin and San Antonio? Do they maintain control of south Texas as the leaders vow to annihilate them?


The people of Texas have absolutely NO interest in being governed under sharia. They hate sharia and they may very well be unjustified in their hate. The fear of sharia rule will cause every farmer, every redneck, every grandpa and grandma, every white, Mexican and black to grab their AR 15 and make short work of them. This is before law enforcement or national guard/US military comes in.

It’ll be on Fox News non-stop forever. There won’t be any US leaders coming in and talking about the “battle for the hearts and minds” of people or the lack of economic opportunity that forced them into shabab. No one will talk about “reconciliation” and appoint former terrorists as ministers of religion. Presidential medals of honour will be handed out to hundreds of brave Texans who repelled the jihadist invasion.

Islamophobia will skyrocket and become even more tolerated in the US. CAIR and other organizations will hail the Texans as heroes and condemn the terrorists. This won’t be enough. Life for the average Muslim will become hell. The 1st amendment right to freedom of religion will be ignored and mosques will be shut down and investigated.

Bringing this back to Somalia, Al Shabab is like a snake that lives among tall unkept grass. Somali society serves as the tall grass in this analogy. If we keep things real, people are not sure Al Shabab are that bad. Sure they extort people and do some rough things.

The soldiers fighting them have to morally convince themselves that they won’t go to hell for fighting someone with the shahada on their flag.

 

[Celery]

@Al hashimi What is your take on this

 

[Kisame]

Al shabab wouldn't take over shit.

Rural Texas love the 2nd amendment which gives us the right to bear arms. We can buy shit guns, semi auto assault rifles, shot guns, and pistols. If I wanted to right now I can buy a semi automatic assault rifle. All I need to do is drive to my local pawn shop. It's even possible to own machine guns.

We even got civilians that own tanks

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Those racist ass white supremacists would have loved to team up to kill Al shabab niggas. If you attempt to take over one town all the conservative and patriotic cadaan niggas across
Texas will just pull up.


America would honestly be one of the worst places to invade. Too many people got guns. Even our local gang members have access to military grade weapons.

 

[Celery]

Al shabab wouldn't take over shit.

Rural Texas love the 2nd amendment which gives us the right to bear arms. We can buy shit guns, semi auto assault rifles, shot guns, and pistols. If I wanted to right now I can buy a semi automatic assault rifle. All I need to do is drive to my local pawn shop. It's even possible to own machine guns.

We even got civilians that own tanks

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Those racist ass white supremacists would have loved to team up to kill Al shabab niggas. If you attempt to take over one town all the conservative and patriotic cadaan niggas across
Texas will just pull up.


America would honestly be one of the worst places to invade. Too many people got guns. Even our local gang members have access to military grade weapons.

The thought experiment is about how people in Somalia react vs how people in Texas would react. Sure they’re racist white supremacists

Go ahead and assume the place is not awash with guns. Let’s say Texans had a third of the weapons they have. If AS randomly showed up even with heavy weapons, people would be so offended by their ideas that they would violently attack them.

 

[Al hashimi]

Wtf

 

[chronic]

Total Annihilation. What Somalia couldn’t do for decades, Texans would do in less than a day.

 

[Celery]

Total Annihilation. What Somalia couldn’t do for decades, Texans would do in less than a day.

Why do you think that is? This jihadi stuff would be so offensive to the Texans. Imagine skirt-wearing inbreeds getting shot up with nasheed goat sounds in the background.

Why can’t the folks back home have the same approach? It’s unIslamic. That’s the answer. Defeating terrorism is unislamic because the terrorists are Islamic. That’s why they can’t be defeated.

 

[Celery]

Wtf

Good point thanks for your contribution.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

With wahabism fighting kebab is a nigh impossible task.

However Ahlu sunnah had no issues disposing of this trash for so long.

 

[chronic]

Why do you think that is? This jihadi stuff would be so offensive to the Texans. Imagine skirt-wearing inbreeds getting shot up with nasheed goat sounds in the background.

Why can’t the folks back home have the same approach? It’s unIslamic. That’s the answer. Defeating terrorism is unislamic because the terrorists are Islamic. That’s why they can’t be defeated.

They would be instantly ganged upon. No American heck even a Texan, would tolerate a jihad on their soil

 

[Celery]

With wahabism fighting kebab is a nigh impossible task.

However Ahlu sunnah had no issues disposing of this trash for so long.

Wahhabism and salafism are considered noble and that AS has nothing to do with them. Salafis are trying to imitate the original Muslims and leave no room for anything. Attacking this movement is considered anti Islamic.

In fact, it can easily be argued that Ahlu Sunnah are the actual bad guys due to their innovations such as venerating saints and thikr. This is the view held by at least half if not more of the Somali population.

My point is that we have a compromised society that has moral qualms about fighting terrorism. AS and other jihadists will bring misery, poverty and destitution. They will not empower people to use their creativity and talents to improve society.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

Wahhabism and salafism are considered noble and that AS has nothing to do with them. Salafis are trying to imitate the original Muslims and leave no room for anything. Attacking this movement is considered anti Islamic.

In fact, it can easily be argued that Ahlu Sunnah are the actual bad guys due to their innovations such as venerating saints and thikr. This is the view held by at least half if not more of the Somali population.

My point is that we have a compromised society that has moral qualms about fighting terrorism. AS and other jihadists will bring misery, poverty and destitution. They will not empower people to use their creativity and talents to improve society.

wahabis and salafis arent the same wahabis are folowers of abdu wahab while salafism is an ideal

 

[Celery]

They would be instantly ganged upon. No American heck even a Texan, would tolerate a jihad on their soil

In America, leaders will not need to call them “khawariij” to justify hunting them down. Every American will totally hate them and destroy them with passion.

They won’t be able to plant spies in the government because no one will be sympathetic to their ideology.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

Wahhabism and salafism are considered noble and that AS has nothing to do with them. Salafis are trying to imitate the original Muslims and leave no room for anything. Attacking this movement is considered anti Islamic.

In fact, it can easily be argued that Ahlu Sunnah are the actual bad guys due to their innovations such as venerating saints and thikr. This is the view held by at least half if not more of the Somali population.

My point is that we have a compromised society that has moral qualms about fighting terrorism. AS and other jihadists will bring misery, poverty and destitution. They will not empower people to use their creativity and talents to improve society.

with thoughts like this we will never defeat al kebab. Ahlu Sunnah are noble somalis who would never dare harm another innocent somali. While wahabis though on avg decent people can easily turn into literal demons and slaughter muslims without a second thought

 

[Celery]

wahabis and salafis arent the same wahabis are folowers of abdu wahab while salafism is an ideal

That’s right. But they are similar.

 

[Gaandheri]

AS would not last a single day there are more guns than people in the USA.

 

[Celery]

with thoughts like this we will never defeat al kebab. Ahlu Sunnah are noble somalis who would never dare harm another innocent somali. While wahabis thoguht on avg decent people can easily turn into literal demons and slaughter muslims without a second thought

I’m not opposed to ASWJ. I support them and anyone else taking up arms against these donkey molesters. I posed this question / experiment to highlight the difference between our approach and other countries.

While the American view of Kebab is driven by hate of Islam in general, it is way more efficient than our approach.

 

[Celery]

AS would not last a single day there are more guns than people in the USA.

There are plenty of guns in Somalia. It’s just that people are either sympathetic to kebab or at best indifferent. The only time people get angry is when their relatives get beheaded or they blow up important people.

There’s no unified outrage and rejection of the group or their ideas. If the two countries’ populations were suddenly swapped, Americans would do in an afternoon what we couldn’t in 20 years.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

That’s right. But they are similar.

Whole scale slaughter of muslims due to accusations of heresy only began with wahabis in modern age. An Islamic nation must thoroguhly regulate wahabis or join them and export them to other countries to reduce damage. Failure to do this will result in nothing but misery for other Islamic sect / non muslims no matter how misguided they are.

Khawaarijs must be seen as demons hijacking the shahada they must be shown no mercy for they will show no mecy to muslim or non muslim only then can they be defeated. You cant deal with terrorsits like normal humans you must arrest their families if they refuse to out them.

You must be ruthless only then can u be free. Somalia will never be free with wahabis in religious authority there will always be sympathizers.

 

[GemState]

The US is a wealthy, irreligious, low fertility cohesive state with a median age of 40+

Somalia is a poor, extremely religious, divided country with a median age of 17 and the world's highest fertility rate.

Drop 1000 open LGBT people in the middle of Somalia and they'd get liquidated pretty quickly, it's completely different societies, stupid to compare.