You can’t even explain it fully as to how. Let’s look at the facts:
I’m sorry the whole disagree to agree point is a cop out. In the UK Somalis are teased and stereotyped for having many kids. Even if you were to do a poll here most will have 5+ kids if they’re 90s kids. My fam was the average!
so, average men get an average woman doing everything for them and average women have to do everything for them, yet ironically men are the ones with the harder lives?
Yet, you don’t name how those struggles are worse than women and argue that average men get to have women that do all the chores for them and pay half of the bills. So according to you, average men have life on easy mode with regards to relationships and average women simply don’t benefit. And that they have to accept it so they get ‘picked’.
Many can’t as many modern men can’t fully provide. So men have two options, skill up and try to fully provide or help their wives fully and go 50 with the chores or marriage simply isn’t going to benefit women. Hence we have high divorce rates and you’ve just admitted that one party is doing all the work and one party is benefiting.
You seem to think men are owed a comfortable life. As you said that the average man will not pick a woman who doesn’t serve him and the kids fully and pay half. That’s literally what you’re saying.
How? They go to school like boys? Go to Uni? In what ways are their lives easier? If they’re from a poor dysfunctional family the same traumas follow them as well? And if they’re rich, their brothers lead a life of privilege as well.
You’ve proved my point. You can’t explain how mens lives are harder.
Quality men provide for average looking women everyday. Many of the worlds richest men marry plain looking women everyday. The catch? They’re from same social class.
I don’t deny what some Somali girls might go through in their households the thing I don’t like is our community attacking one another on social media
Well it’s going to continue if a lot of guys are on defense mode and literally argue with girls over the reality of our community and in the same breath crack jokes about the very thing the girls were talking about.
No such a thing as “too much emphasis on deen”. There is never enough. I believe in semi-assimilation not full. What somali parents are stopping you from “assimilation”? They won’t stop you from living a regular halal lifestyle but if you want that haram kafir lifestyle then wadada ka qulqul.
There is no such a thing as a “lazy” somali mom. Watch your mouth, waad kibir badhantahay don’t disrespect hoyos.Its their lazy mothers who off load their duties to their daughter's .
You fell into my trap and have illustrated you are not consistent. Average men in this economy cannot afford to be traditional. So your point is moot. You can’t expect traditional roles if you’re not providing. That isn’t being traditional. That’s being worse than a leech as in that situation your partner simply doesn’t need you if you’re not helping her out in other ways, since they’ve failed to fulfill their primary role: full provider.
Nope, in most cities, the rent alone is 1700 and that’s for a one to two bed. In other places it’s cheaper but the salaries are lower. What about clothing? Hygiene products for women? So basically a woman would have lead a lower quality life than when she was in her parents house and single. So again? What is the incentive for the woman? A life of misery just because he refuses to help out? It’s clear to see from your points that singlehood or divorce is a better alternative and you’re literally defending such piss poor behavior under the guise of traditionalism when the man has an inability to provide properly.
Nope, leading divorce attorneys literally talk about this being an issue in the West. It is a focal issue. Why are you lying and act like only Somalis have high rates of divorce?! 50% of American marriages end in divorce.
No one cares about your own personal preference. I’m talking about general trends in society. Your mere anecdotes means nothing. People marrying within class lines and data shows this.
Again, people mostly marry within their class and that’s my point. The poor women that marry rich men, tend to be smart women who have had to level up and leave their surroundings so that richer men notice them.
How am i defending any men ?
Those mothers especially in places like the UK relied on the government, so really and truly their husbands in some ways were dead weight. The conservative government has now pulled the rug from underneath them and now the average Somali habaar works in care. This is facts.
A good man is one that can provide for a woman at the standard in which they were raised in so that these women can stay home. A man that cannot provide can’t make a good husband and one that makes a woman pay and look after the home is frankly terrible.
Yes, they do but those broke women need to level up in some ways in order to leave her broke environment. Men who make six figures aren’t shopping for wives on the estate. That’s an obvious.
Again, the data shows that people marry within their class. It’s not just rich people. Middle class tend to marry middle class. Poor women tend to marry poor men and rich people marry rich people. Obviously, outliers exist. I’m not debating that.
They need their kids since the man they’ve had kids with has been socially/culturally mollycoddled to believe that helping his spouse is above him.
Did these women know that their husbands would spend most of their days in marfish and maqaayad? Did these women procreate assexaully? Why is it on them to not have kids? These are the same men who will not help their wives in the West and have ten more in Somali screaming about landheernimo. When will some of you Abdis take accountability? Even young men on here talk about having lots of wives and kids in the future and landheernimo. The same cycle and it’s women that are constantly blamed for it.
