The Untold Story Of Somali-Israeli Relations

tyrannicalmanager

pseudo-intellectual
You are acting on emotion sxb. Of course Israel is a settler colonial state that has committed horrible atrocities but what can we do? Either way we have to look out for ourselves, this doesn't mean we support zionism in anyway, it just means we just trying to keep our house in order first.

Ethiopia and Kenya are both settler "colonial" states as well who have committed / are actively committing horrible atrocities against Somali people due to our lack of power at the moment. We have to hold our tongues and slowly get our house in order, only then can we do anything.

I am not promoting Zionism and neither are most people in this thread, establishing relations is a must if it's beneficial for us.
The Zionist want establish relations with Muslims nations to legitimize Israel. if you support establishing ties with Israel you're in line with the Zionist agenda.
 
Arabs were the reason for the downfall of the ottomans as well.
This isn’t completely true. Arabs weren’t monolithic and you had many Arabs who supported the Ottomans. In fact Syrian Arabs made up two thirds of the 19th division of the Ottoman army that destroyed the allied forces at Gallipoli according to Turkey-based Australian writer and historian Bill Sellars:

“Two thirds of the troops who made up his 19th Division that faced the first wave of the Allied invasion were Syrian Arabs, comprising the 72nd and 77th regiments of the Ottoman army,” says Turkey-based Australian writer and historian Bill Sellars


The Ottoman empire collapsed due to multiple factors, one of them being the poor leadership of the largely secular young turks, and the rise of nationalism in 19th century Europe. Traitors existed in virtually every Muslim ethnicity under Ottoman leadership, Arabs are not exclusively to be blamed.
 
The arabs voted against Somali independence while Israel was pushing for it??? This time how are we gonna defend the dhegacas act towards Somalis :snoop: :snoop:
At the end of the day we are Muslims with principles and our complete loyalty is to Islam, not nation-states or culture. Just because Arab leaders in the past voted against Somalia’s independence does not give us a right to side with the Zionist enemies of Islam who oppress our Muslim brothers and sisters in Palestine and violate our sanctuary of Al-Aqsa.
 
If an Arab told you the sky is blue you'd deny it out of spite, Israel does not want or care about you, don't prostitute yourself and destroy the little dignity we have left.
Dignity of what? Dignity that Arabs wouldn't see you as a traitor because you normalised relations with Israel?. That's bootyclapping for Arabs.
No one else in the world would see you as bad except Arabs but f* off who cares? I would get lots of benefits outta it. You really care about how Arabs see you. F* off. Go and dance for them and let them call you abeed. The last thing you would worry about is how Arabs will perceive you decisions in a situation like this. You've many Arab states who normalised with Israel why not you? And did anyone condemn you? You guys are absolutely shameless, you shouldn't claim to be Somalis Uffff.
Turkey has relations with it and no Arab thinks of it as bad. You're not smart Gem are you? The term abeed would describe your situation and mentality well and no wonder why Arabs use it against youm
 
The prophet said something in the meaning of 'killing one muslim person is heavier than annihilating the Kaba (the 1st kaba not the 2nd)".
America was killing Iraqis and you had and still have relations with them. So Aksa isn't a big deal if you're indifferent to all this and up for the relations with the West.
They even killed 1000s of your own muslim fellow Somalis during the Battle of Mogadishu for no reason.
Stop being hypocrite, if you can have relations with the US the you SHOULD be having it with Israel too. Israel hasn't killed 0.0000001 of the number of people America has killed.
Even if you are bootyclapping for the Arabs then think of the 10,000s of Iraqis and Syrains killed by America and the West and cut your ties with them first.
A sensible person would've relations with Israel than America, Britain and US and it did less damage.
You even have relations with Italy who colonised you and Eebbe knows what they did to your grandfathers.
 

tyrannicalmanager

pseudo-intellectual
The prophet said something in the meaning of 'killing one muslim person is heavier than annihilating the Kaba (the 1st kaba not the 2nd)".
America was killing Iraqis and you had and still have relations with them. So Aksa isn't a big deal if you're indifferent to all this and up for the relations with the West.
They even killed 1000s of your own muslim fellow Somalis during the Battle of Mogadishu for no reason.
Stop being hypocrite, if you can have relations with the US the you SHOULD be having it with Israel too. Israel hasn't killed 0.0000001 of the number of people America has killed.
Even if you are bootyclapping for the Arabs then think of the 10,000s of Iraqis and Syrains killed by America and the West and cut your ties with them first.
A sensible person would've relations with Israel than America, Britain and US and it did less damage.
You even have relations with Italy who colonised you and Eebbe knows what they did to your grandfathers.
your being very deceptive. you can't compare foreign invaders to settler colonialist.
our problem with Israel is its existence as a jewish state in muslim land.
If you regconise Israel, you regconise Al Aqsa as jewish land end of story.
 
your being very deceptive. you can't compare foreign invaders to settler colonialist.
our problem with Israel is its existence as a jewish state in muslim land.
If you regconise Israel, you regconise Al Aqsa as jewish land end of story.
Jews weren't interested in Al-Aqsa first, they even gave the west bank which Al-Aqsa is located in to Jordan. Israel was up for the two-state solution in the 19th century but Arabs declined it. That's why Israel had no other choice but to take over the west bank as well. Read some history, Israel wouldn't have given the west bank to Jordan if they were interested in it. Israeli politicians are secular and aren't into this holyland narrative, they went for the more fertile and costal areas. The rest including Al-Aqsa is a semi-arid mountainous rough land. It was later when the radical devout Jews came that Israel gave some interest to Al-Aqsa.
It's the old age story of Arabs bottling lands to foreigners as always and you can't help but laugh at such people. Why not accept the two state solution long ago when you had more than half of land left for you? And today they're crying and grieving over it!!! Bro I feel like I've to puke whenever I come across or talk about the incompetence of the Arabs.
Saudis allowed gaalo futo-ku-xaarle Americans and their allies to be in the ambient of the haram because they were defending them. Nah.. bro you better stop bootyclapping for Arabs!!!
 

tyrannicalmanager

pseudo-intellectual
Jews weren't interested in Al-Aqsa first, they even gave the west bank which Al-Aqsa is located in to Jordan. Israel was up for the two-state solution in the 19th century but Arabs declined it. That's why Israel had no other choice but to take over the west bank as well. Read some history, Israel wouldn't have given the west bank to Jordan if they were interested in it. Israeli politicians are secular and aren't into this holyland narrative, they went for the more fertile and costal areas. The rest including Al-Aqsa is a semi-arid mountainous rough land. It was later when the radical devout Jews came that Israel gave some interest to Al-Aqsa.
It's the old age story of Arabs bottling lands to foreigners as always and you can't help but laugh at such people. Why not accept the two state solution long ago when you had more than half of land left for you? And today they're crying and grieving over it!!! Bro I feel like I've to puke whenever I come across or talk about the incompetence of the Arabs.
Saudis allowed gaalo futo-ku-xaarle Americans and their allies to be in the ambient of the haram because they were defending them. Nah.. bro you better stop bootyclapping for Arabs!!!
Ok so this makes ok for the IDF to storm Al Aqsa mosque every ramadan?
two state solution? would you share half of somalia to the Italian colonialist?
 
Israel themselves are a welfare-state (receive billions from the US every year) :heh: and what trade relations would we be able to establish with them??? Nothing I’ll tell u

So no point collecting dembi making ties that wouldn’t even be beneficial like that. Somalia needs to keep its head down and focus on more pressing matters
 
egypt supported somalis in galbeed even before independence.
egypt used to send weapons to mogadishu to give to somalis in nfd fighting jomo kenyatta.
egypt used to train somali officers.
even after the collapse of central government somalis were allowed to study in egypt syria etc and have an embassy.
saudi arabia used to sell us cheap oil.
iraq helped us and we opened an oil refinery.
saudi arabia and uae buy our xoolo. apart from arabs noone else wants our xoolo.
and lastly the arab league is hands off with somalia. much better than the african union.

@Abdisamad is one of those weird online pro israeli arabphobes. this is about al aqsa 1st and foremost not arabism. heres a video for you. you support violating aqsa make 2 raka and do tawbah.
Egypt supported Somalia due to the nile river, they needed a strong Somalia in the region to keep Ethiopia at bay, they were looking out for their own interests.
 
Weird comparison, Jews are native to Israel, Italians have nothing to do with Somalia.
Majority of the Jews in Israel are ashkenazi Jews who’s ancestors lived in central and Eastern Europe. If they were all deported, Israel/Palestine would be majority Muslim
 
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