I think you should love ur family and being Somali, but Somali lineages are not necessarily based on line of descent but rather alliances and so putting your clan/lineage on a pedestal when it is very fallible is just dumb.
The stain of tribalism
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The most powerfull Somali sultanate during colonial era were the Geledi. They had 20x the numbers of soldiers compared to other tribal enclaved sultanates during that era.
What areas/clans were part of this sultanate? There is not much documentation on them.
It be like that when your mother is from another clan
Mongolian were far more uncivilized jaahils and they got it done. Its not a matter of IQ but a matter of awood.
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You are right brother, there is no need for domination. People as far as Hararge were willing to join Somalia peacefully. Harar was even proposed to be the capital of this new Somalia. Like you mentioned earlier, we just need a just leader that wins over the hearts of the people. He will come inshaAllah!!
We are in the 21st century in a whole completely different world. Plus Mongolians have no history of civilisation only xooging look at there descendants they are masakiins eating horse meat.
Beenta joojiya. Somalis born in the West and elsewhere who have little connection with qabiil could be won over by a leader because they truly believe in Somalinimo, but you savages born and grown up in Somaliweyn need to be ruled by an iron fist. Habeen iyo maalin baad u baahantihiin in maskaxdiina la garaaco.
I believe you guys are like the people in the movie ''The Crazies'' sunta qabyaalad baa in ku jira, kii fiican iyo kii xun, laandheere iyo laangaab, gumeysi bis baad fahantaan nothing else.
A Somali born in the West will never ask what qabiil a famous Somali person is from, they are satisfied in the person being a Somali, but a person born in Somalia almost always will try to get to the bottom of ''yuu yahay''. down to the sub sub clan in certain cases.
Look at any great united civilization it required a certain degree of xooging.
The problem with the Mongolians is they enjoyed the xooging process too much and never spent any time fully consolidating their new territories. Thats why their entrire run never spanned more than a century before it collapsed under different khanates.
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Numerous clans were involved. They had might on land and on sea as they were literally the continuation of the mighty Ajuuraan. Capital was Afgooye. They defeated the Amhara backed with European weapons while keeping the Italians at bay. They minted their own currency and had trade relations with far away lands. Heck even the Omani were paying tribute to them
This is the only book you will ever need. Virginia Luling did a great job.The Wikipedia page on Geledi uses mostly her sources as well as several other sources. You should give it a read.
Gasaargude was part of the Geledi state and they first brought Kablalax to Luuq so they came to Jubaland by their permission, Gobroon were the Ajuran offshoot and the Geledi is what the name of the Digil clan they lived with in Afgooye
This is from Virginia Luling who wrote the history of Geledi sultanate btw, Adawin were of the largest branch of Goobroon
Even my own Murusade who were present in the region are digil/Geledi in the sense that Digil is an alliance of farming groups, so thatz only those who farm in parts of lower shabelle, the Murusade in the Merca and Brava caravan trade are not farmers nor Digil, infact they live with biimaal there who are pastoralists and were at war with Geledi so we had a neutral presence in the whole region not at war with any side
Rest of digil like garre and tunni have heavy numbers of hawiye and dir and will always be orientated towards Hawiye/Irir, even gobroon speak maxatiri and most digil, the maay lot are RX Mirifle
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She has a metastasized Majeerteentitis, however itβs not deadly yet.
Is this disease similar to anti-whitism?
Homespun history lessons have a way of eating themselves from within, and in stride, for flawed, and easy to puncture they are, of own fissures.
S Barre was a colonial puppet, not a shrewd politician, nor was he a visionary leader. Kamal el Din Salah offered an insight into his schizophrenic tendencies prior to his murder, and so did E Honecker, Chancellor of East Germany during the 1977 war with .Et.
- He along with others ( of SRRC incl. Ismacil C Abokor, Axmed M Faarax, Xuseen Kulmiye, Maxamed C Samatar, Axmed S Dafle) were equally to blame for the evils that had befallen the nation. Do you recognise the first two? I ask, for you seem to have absolved them of responsibilities of any evil doings, yet S Barre was to blame for all heinous crimes when they were all as much to blame for the inhumane atrocities.
Terrifyingly shortsighted.
- So, 1991 did not present an opportunity to keep the nation intact instead of opting for a secessionist agenda (NW), or a turning point to bring tribes together instead of waging a clan war (deep South)? I wonder why? Easy to spot faults elsewhere, is not it?
- Or in 1999, when ina Cigaal was handed an opportunity to form a provincial Somali government with Hargeysa its Capital, and with UN sponsorship.
- Then came the TNG, which for all intents and purposes had a golden opportunity to amalgamate authority in the most insecure, unstable regions, but instead chose to wage a war against stable regions namely PL & SL whilst Xamar was still burning. Its Premier at the time later lamented as much.
- ICUs were three-pronged enterprise of conflicting ideologies, with each seeking domination of the other, which eventually saw to their downfall, as became evident in Sudan to be more precise, well before the Ethiopians. Their Ayatullahs from Burco, Garowe and Jeddah, who congregated in Xamar during the time attested to as much. So did M Caddow, who documented as much prior to his killing by his comrades. But then again, you already knew that, except it does not quite fit in with the narrative you wish to propagate.
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Atleast we would have foreign journalist coming to somalia to film the stadium atmosphere instead of yet another stupid deal the government makes. if we wont get rid of it, why not use it for our own benefit. Good players could rise and it would be good pr
I got my reaction perms stripped off me.
Generation Z will bring back the kacaanist V2
What did you do if you dont mind me asking, The reaction tool is real good tool I use and I wouldnt want to lose it.
A self-proclaimed bourgeois Anglicist, a protege of I M Lewis, with a narrow scope of interest in Galadi Sultanate and Oromos, her specialisation, Why would any self-respecting Somali wish to read her escapes, and adventures bundled as an academic research. Was not Galadi an extension of the Ajuran Sultanate, the most influential, in the deep South?Numerous clans were involved. They had might on land and on sea as they were literally the continuation of the mighty Ajuuraan. Capital was Afgooye. They defeated the Amhara backed with European weapons while keeping the Italians at bay. They minted their own currency and had trade relations with far away lands. Heck even the Omani were paying tribute to them
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The Wikipedia page on Geledi uses mostly her sources as well as several other sources. You should give it a read.
Gasaargude was part of the Geledi state and they first brought Kablalax to Luuq so they came to Jubaland by their permission, Gobroon were the Ajuran offshoot and the Geledi is what the name of the Digil clan they lived with in Afgooye
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This is from Virginia Luling who wrote the history of Geledi sultanate btw, Adawin were of the largest branch of Goobroon
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Even my own Murusade who were present in the region are digil/Geledi in the sense that Digil is an alliance of farming groups, so thatz only those who farm in parts of lower shabelle, the Murusade in the Merca and Brava caravan trade are not farmers nor Digil, infact they live with biimaal there who are pastoralists and were at war with Geledi so we had a neutral presence in the whole region not at war with any side
Rest of digil like garre and tunni have heavy numbers of hawiye and dir and will always be orientated towards Hawiye/Irir, even gobroon speak maxatiri and most digil, the maay lot are RX Mirifle
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